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Pride and Prejudice and Goncharov [Movies]

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    I worked as an IMAX projectionist when Avatar came out

    It is burned into my soul.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    I just cannot engage with movies like PT&A, I very quickly come to hate both characters and can't have any fun. Just kill each other and spare me the misery

    I can't watch a lot of "Britcoms" (and also Seinfeld, which is very much cut from the same cloth) for this reason. I hate all of these people and I want them to die.

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »

    Well, that went from a "I've seen this movie a hundred times, I don't really need it physically because it's everywhere on streaming" to "Just bought it"

    Having watched it last week it is in fact not steaming everywhere

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »

    Well, that went from a "I've seen this movie a hundred times, I don't really need it physically because it's everywhere on streaming" to "Just bought it"

    Having watched it last week it is in fact not steaming everywhere

    I apologize for not being clear, it's always been available for a cheap digital rental everywhere I rent stuff

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Ms Dapper wrote: »
    I worked as an IMAX projectionist when Avatar came out

    It is burned into my soul.

    That's convenient, you don't have to watch it again before going to see a sequel that probably is going to operate on the assumption that everyone is totally up on the events of the first film.

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Why none of Cameron's films do.

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    pooka wrote: »
    I just watched Enchanted for the first time, and then Disenchanted.

    The first one is deeply dumb but also self aware and enjoyable enough with Amy Adams selling her fish out of water. The acting is good across the board, the scenery chewing is fun, but man, that plot just dragged for me. As a character study, though, it's neat to see Adams flex.

    The sequel is the same, but more. Maya Rudolph is always welcome, but I wasn't feeling the broad acting as much; maybe just too much in a short period.
    Or I just liked the plot of the first more, as a better foil. Getting villain Amy Adams was cute, tho.

    "Love Power" (presumably) went on sooooo long. Like, I appreciate the thematic throughline, but I get it, geez.

    i think Disenchanted has two pretty good story ideas and does basically nothing interesting with them:

    1. "Actually, it would suck if your stepmom, or even mom, was a literal disney princess and you were a teenager"
    2. Monkey paw wish of a fairy tale life but whoops, you're a stepmother so ipso facto you're evil now

    Idina's song is good in that it hits notes of Defying Gravity as a neat nod (and has lyrics about flying on a broom), but the actual lyrics of the song suuuuuuuuck and are not interesting. It is like, actually pre-school sounding.

    My kids liked it but for me it goes on the pile of modern disney that is just not executed very well.

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    I'm at least glad to hear Idina gets a song, I just watched the first a few months back and was a bit annoyed that she didn't get a number.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2022
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Why none of Cameron's films do.

    T2 is intrinsically connected to T1, what?

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    You can absolutely watch T2 without ever seeing T1 or knowing anything about it though. They’re linked for sure, but T2 doesn’t assume you have a working familiarity with anything from the previous movie.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Which is not a bad thing, mind

    Homework sucks

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Hell they recap it several times

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I just want to reiterate that John Candy taking a bite of the hot dog while smoke is coming out of his mouth is actual comedic genius

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    aw son of a bitch



    I wish movie stars would stop

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    If anyone is curious, it's basically a response to this comment from Tarantino on some podcast or another
    Tarantino wrote:
    “You have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters,” Tarantino said. “But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Or Thor is the star. I mean, I’m not the first person to say that. I think that’s been said a zillion times … but it’s like, you know, it’s these franchise characters that become a star.”

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Some of that is because Marvel makes it so the character is the star, and some of that is that they sign these contracts that make it difficult to do literally anything else

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Some of that is because Marvel makes it so the character is the star, and some of that is that they sign these contracts that make it difficult to do literally anything else

    I think that’s partially true, but also, Marvel hasn’t recast a major part (yet) and basically everybody knows who played those characters to kind of an absurd degree

    Like Captain America is a weird example because Chris Evans gets major billing in stuff like Knives Out! Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, all those damn Chrises are famous movie stars even if they can’t do much else until the contract is up

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    People know who these people are but how many of them do much else outside of the MCU, unless they were already kind of a star beforehand? Like, even Paul Rudd doesn't really do anything other than Marvel movies, anymore. And Chris Evans did get big billing in Knives Out, but Daniel Craig is easily a bigger "movie star," than he is. Arguably, Jamie Lee Curtis is a bigger "movie star," than Chris Evans, even.

    Though, I guess it's hard to be a movie star right now given the current state of the box office. Like, how can you be a big star outside of Disney when the only other thing that consistently makes money is Fast & the Furious? We talk about the Rock as a huge star, but the most money any of his movies have ever made was Black Adam, which was like...a mid-tier superhero movie.

    Also...Marvel recast the fucking Hulk?

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    I feel like Brie Larson's stardom got sidetracked by her marvel movies. She's been in not a whole lot other than those over the last few years, where she's kinda terrible when in everything else she is so fantastic.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I think Chris Evans still remains firmly in wait and see territory, he hasn't really gotten a lot of big billing post-MCU

    Hemsworth feels like he has gotten the most out of it so far, he was a relative unknown prior to Thor and has been in a fair amount of other stuff, even if a lot of it was terrible.

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    Yeah I feel like there are more "yeah this person seemed like an up and comer and got sidetracked with Marvel" then Marvel necessarily making stars

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    If anyone is curious, it's basically a response to this comment from Tarantino on some podcast or another
    Tarantino wrote:
    “You have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters,” Tarantino said. “But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Or Thor is the star. I mean, I’m not the first person to say that. I think that’s been said a zillion times … but it’s like, you know, it’s these franchise characters that become a star.”

    and when he says that people have said that before.............................

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited November 2022
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    People know who these people are but how many of them do much else outside of the MCU, unless they were already kind of a star beforehand? Like, even Paul Rudd doesn't really do anything other than Marvel movies, anymore. And Chris Evans did get big billing in Knives Out, but Daniel Craig is easily a bigger "movie star," than he is. Arguably, Jamie Lee Curtis is a bigger "movie star," than Chris Evans, even.

    Though, I guess it's hard to be a movie star right now given the current state of the box office. Like, how can you be a big star outside of Disney when the only other thing that consistently makes money is Fast & the Furious? We talk about the Rock as a huge star, but the most money any of his movies have ever made was Black Adam, which was like...a mid-tier superhero movie.

    Also...Marvel recast the fucking Hulk?

    Yeah I think this was happening with or without marvel, marvel is just one of the biggest symptoms.

    The true cause of the death of the "Movie Star" is the dilution of media in general. There is now an infinite amount of Content/Media for people to digest, there is just not really an ur-culture or whatever the word for it is, or rather that concept has changed.

    It's the same reason why there aren't sports super stars in the same way. Lebron James is a huge basketball star, but James does not have the cultural impact Michael Jordan had at the height of his career. And that's not because he's less talented or less charismatic that Jordan. There's just too much other noise in the market.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Hearing Glass Onion is better than Knives Out has my expectations through the roof

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    LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    Last I checked Knives Out didn’t have Dave Bautista in it so…

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Also Goonies not getting made today is a positive thing actually because Goonies sucks

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    And not to harp on this further but considering the new horror heyday we're in, Halloween and the Thing totally could have gotten made. Like maybe not on a massive budget, but if you wanted to make a movie where a scary guy murders babysitters I think that's probably more possible now than ever.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I’m watching the first It again in preparation to finally watch the second It this weekend so I can cross it off my list

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Halloween didn't have a massive budget in the first place

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Bigger budgets usually don’t usually equal better when it comes to horror movies especially.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I agree with Mackie's statement there, it's just funny that the movies he was asked about, outside of Goonies which sucks and is bad, totally could get made today no problem.

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I agree with Mackie's statement there, it's just funny that the movies he was asked about, outside of Goonies which sucks and is bad, totally could get made today no problem.

    They'd get made, but they'd have a lot more studio interference as we saw when they made the prequel to Thing and they made them replace the practical effects with cgi.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    They’d get made but they’d all have a Stan Lee cameo

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Kid adventure movies like the Goonies very much all do get made, though

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Generally I’ve found, “they can’t make movies like that anymore” usually means they’re full of racist shit

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Kid adventure movies like the Goonies very much all do get made, though

    Yeah, but those don't inspire a sense of childlike wonder in me, so who the hell are they even for? Children? They don't need it, they've got childlike wonder coming out of their goddamn ears all hours of the day and night.

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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    I’m watching the first It again in preparation to finally watch the second It this weekend so I can cross it off my list

    I really like the first one. It's incredible how badly they whiffed on the second one though.

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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    SirToasty wrote: »
    I’m watching the first It again in preparation to finally watch the second It this weekend so I can cross it off my list

    I really like the first one. It's incredible how badly they whiffed on the second one though.

    I think that's just a fundamental problem with the book, or perhaps King's general inability to write good endings. The second half is simply not as good as the first. The back half of the 90s miniseries sucked too.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I agree with Mackie's statement there, it's just funny that the movies he was asked about, outside of Goonies which sucks and is bad, totally could get made today no problem.

    They'd get made, but they'd have a lot more studio interference as we saw when they made the prequel to Thing and they made them replace the practical effects with cgi.

    There are new horror movies coming out what feels like every other week for the past few years.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    SirToasty wrote: »
    I’m watching the first It again in preparation to finally watch the second It this weekend so I can cross it off my list

    I really like the first one. It's incredible how badly they whiffed on the second one though.

    I think that's just a fundamental problem with the book, or perhaps King's general inability to write good endings. The second half is simply not as good as the first. The back half of the 90s miniseries sucked too.

    The book weaves back and forth between kids and adults so it’s not technically the second half of the book

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