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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I love low stakes. Give me more low stakes Marvel and Star Wars

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZ-BWWQcWQ

    it's a fun cast but they seem to be using the exact same plot as The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent

    that said, put Aubrey Plaza in every action comedy, I'll watch.

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    They finally put Lachlan Pendragon's short online: An Ostrich Told Me The World is Fake and I Think I Believe It

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Wakanda Forever was really good

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Yeah, The Hunger Games is pretty good overall. It genuinely has some stuff to say about class inequality, celebrity worship, and nationalism instead of just using those things as meaningless backdrop like a lot of its peers have done. I mean, yes, it's all couched in YA dystopian fantasy and all, but it's a pretty good example of the genre. But it is a shame it gets written off as "lol it's battle royale for babies" the way it does.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    edited February 2023
    And I guess I'm the outlier who thought Wakanda Forever was pretty bad. It felt like it overcorrected for killing off the best villain the MCU has ever had in the last movie and
    let the central conflict just kind of fizzle out leaving the whole thing feeling pretty pointless.

    Namor was great. Angela Bassett was very good. Shuri coming to terms with her grief was good. All of it was let down by a terrible plot and more bad MCU CGI.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I just find myself completely uninterested in anything MCU anymore. I used to be one of their biggest supporters!

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I’m trying to remember the last thing MCU I’ve watched and I think it’s Far From Home…or No Way Home…whichever the third Spiderman was called

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    Wakanda Forever and GotG3 are the only recent MCU things to excite me, No Way Home and Shang-Chi were both the kinda thing I saw well after their release (and only felt net positive about NWH)

    Unfortunately looking at the MCU calendar after GotG3 nothing really stands out to me as even remotely interesting barring a potential for surprises

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    Great weekend for film announcements:
    Evil Dead Rise is confirmed 93 minutes long before credits (97 with)
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    The Super Mario Bros Movie is confirmed 92 minutes long

    Another point in my "Evil Dead is either best or second-best horror franchise ever" argument: even at 93 minutes Rise is the longest film in the series. Each one has been short, tight, and still always feels like a lot happens

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Andy Joe wrote: »
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    I really liked the first two Ant-Man movies for being comparatively low stakes movies that bothered to do fun things with their superpowers, and I'm a little resentful that they decided they needed to use the third one to set off their next big multi-movie saga featuring a giant, indistinguishable CGI army

    Kinda felt like the stakes in the second one were a bit too low.

    Serious question: why? I think it's good that one of these movies was like "we have to solve this problem before the main character goes to jail" and that's mostly the stakes

    I think he meant to say the stakes were a bit too small

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    also the mid-credits scene in Ant-Man 2 was one of the funniest things the MCU has ever done

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited February 2023
    Yeah, The Hunger Games is pretty good overall. It genuinely has some stuff to say about class inequality, celebrity worship, and nationalism instead of just using those things as meaningless backdrop like a lot of its peers have done. I mean, yes, it's all couched in YA dystopian fantasy and all, but it's a pretty good example of the genre. But it is a shame it gets written off as "lol it's battle royale for babies" the way it does.

    I'll always hate The Hunger Games. They set off a massive trend for shiny foil covers, which are pretty effective RFID blockers. So I had a hugely expensive book sorting robot that would spit every single YA novel into the exceptions bin for five years straight.

    Pretty good stories, but that's not enough to make up for what they did to me.

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Great weekend for film announcements:
    Evil Dead Rise is confirmed 93 minutes long before credits (97 with)
    FpRzutnaYAAbl6Y?format=jpg&name=small
    The Super Mario Bros Movie is confirmed 92 minutes long

    Another point in my "Evil Dead is either best or second-best horror franchise ever" argument: even at 93 minutes Rise is the longest film in the series. Each one has been short, tight, and still always feels like a lot happens

    Eighty Seven minutes?! Sacre Bleu! I can only get so erect.

    I'm absolutely going to watch this movie based on length alone.

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited February 2023
    But the shortest movie is the one you don't watch. /solemn nod

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Yeah, The Hunger Games is pretty good overall. It genuinely has some stuff to say about class inequality, celebrity worship, and nationalism instead of just using those things as meaningless backdrop like a lot of its peers have done. I mean, yes, it's all couched in YA dystopian fantasy and all, but it's a pretty good example of the genre. But it is a shame it gets written off as "lol it's battle royale for babies" the way it does.

    There's a meta layer to the Hunger Games that the marketing for it occasionally taps into in fun ways, and at other times it seems like it'll completely miss the point. The ads/posters for the movies read as in-universe propaganda, to the point where the text they use in the movie for the propaganda is the same as what they use for the posters. That's not 100% what I'm talking about here, though.

    The really interesting stuff is the central love triangle which is, I'm fairly certain, the most-easily dunked on thing in the trilogy, when honestly it's maybe the most interesting thing in there. I'll toss it in spoilers because someone's watching the movies for the first time
    Part of the narrative and rules of the Hunger Games in universe is that if you entertain the public enough, they'll give you gifts that help you win. Peeta exploits this very early on by painting him and Katniss as starcrossed lovers even before they enter the arena, but Haymitch and Katniss both exploit this in the games themselves to get themselves gifts and advantages, eventually getting the rules to switch to placate the masses. Katniss is instructed to play up the romance to keep everyone happy, in effect putting on the performance of a romance in order to stay alive in a death game. She pushes it a bit too far with her stunt at the end, and is then forced to carry on with the ruse afterwards by the people in charge. In effect, the love triangle in these books/movies exist as another form of exploitation of the people forced to fight in those games, and the three people involved are sort of exhausted and cynical about it.

    I'm not super well versed with the genre, but not many YA love triangles feature the two boys in the love triangle cynically telling each other that she'll "choose who is in the most pain," or "who she needs the most to survive until tomorrow," and then sort of ultimately pay it off by having one of them be theoretically responsible for a war crime that kills her sister

    One other thing I do really like about the messaging in these books is that the actions that Katniss takes that ultimately start to incite a revolution are generally just...fighting to keep other people alive, or to show care for them afterwards. She joins the fight only to keep her sister alive. She allies with an eleven year-old and cares for her even after she dies. I dunno, I think they're generally really good books that get lumped in with a lot of other YA dystopian fiction that tried to chase down what it was doing and couldn't figure out how to bring any substance to it

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    If nothing else, having the final book be
    pretty much entirely a slow paced slog set in a bunker with both sides trying to exploit the fame and popularity of Katniss and Peeta for their own ends is a hell of a way to take the story that I’m sure made a lot of people unhappy, but honestly I can’t fault a final message about how those in power will always be corrupt in some way, so take care of yourself and each other first. No fairy tale endings. Illegitimi non carborundum and all that jazz.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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    TaminTamin Registered User regular
    all done

    I laughed, I cried.

    I'm not thrilled by
    Katniss settling down with Peeta.

    I mean, I don't know that I needed her to settle down with either. The one, as noted above, is probably responsible for the plan that killed her sister; and the other is potentially unstable.

    but it's probably fine and kinda goes with the territory, so.

    I liked the sequences of
    each district fighting back, but the overall rebellion felt very disjointed and logistically hard to parse.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    The final bit works a bit better in the book, mostly because they have a bit more real estate

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Missed opportunity that the movie isn't 65 minutes long.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Wakanda Forever was really good

    Low bar, but it's probably the best film since Infinity War, especially its use of (mega)
    Killmonger.

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    edited February 2023
    Watched Black Panther 2 tonight
    It was good, I like it. I didn't regret watching it. I do think at times both namor and shuri went a bit too comic book in their characterizations, but it was good and emotional and it's the best of the post endgame movies I've seen.

    I will say though, despite how much I love Martin Freeman as the put upon everyman and I liked seeing JLD in a marvel, considering the films bloated runtime I don't really think there's a single scene of the two of them that should have made it past the cutting room floor, and no valuable story beats would have been lost

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited February 2023
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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hellboy-reboot-confirmed-brian-taylor-director-1235528155/

    There’s a new Hellboy movie starting production in March and it’s another reboot. :frowning:

    It’s based on The Crooked Man. :smile:

    The director is the guy who did Crank and Gamer. :cry:

    Mike Mignola wrote the script. :smiley:

    What a roller coaster of emotions.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    crank rules though

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    edited February 2023
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    crank rules though

    It absolutely does, but man I can’t think of a worse tone for a Hellboy movie to take.

    And I realize that not every director just makes the same movie over and over, but if Crank and Gamer are what I have to go on, it doesn’t fill me with confidence.

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    He also made the show Happy! which also rules and is more recent

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4gFlDn6c0c

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    GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    Yeah, we're gonna see Hellboy's ass. It'll be great.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I love just about everything Taylor and Neveldine have ever done.

    I wanted them to make a Fast and Furious movie.

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    Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Andy Joe wrote: »
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    I really liked the first two Ant-Man movies for being comparatively low stakes movies that bothered to do fun things with their superpowers, and I'm a little resentful that they decided they needed to use the third one to set off their next big multi-movie saga featuring a giant, indistinguishable CGI army

    Kinda felt like the stakes in the second one were a bit too low.

    Serious question: why? I think it's good that one of these movies was like "we have to solve this problem before the main character goes to jail" and that's mostly the stakes

    The villains were a notch too goofy for me, just enough to be out of step tonally but not enough to be ridiculous.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hellboy-reboot-confirmed-brian-taylor-director-1235528155/

    There’s a new Hellboy movie starting production in March and it’s another reboot. :frowning:

    It’s based on The Crooked Man. :smile:

    The director is the guy who did Crank and Gamer. :cry:

    Mike Mignola wrote the script. :smiley:

    What a roller coaster of emotions.

    The toppings contain potassium benzoate. ... That's bad.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hellboy-reboot-confirmed-brian-taylor-director-1235528155/

    There’s a new Hellboy movie starting production in March and it’s another reboot. :frowning:

    It’s based on The Crooked Man. :smile:

    The director is the guy who did Crank and Gamer. :cry:

    Mike Mignola wrote the script. :smiley:

    What a roller coaster of emotions.

    The toppings contain potassium benzoate. ... That's bad.

    But it comes with a free frogurt!

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    (no, no, that's the bit at the very end and the proper response is a plaintive "Can I go now?")

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    Avatar 2 has surpassed Titanic 🌊 Eywa be with you

    Happiness is within reach!
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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited February 2023
    Accounting for inflation?
    Weird how nobody fucking talks about it though

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    I assume it's big overseas?

    but also anecdotally, a friend of mine has a teenage son who has seen it multiple times in theaters, which is the biggest indication yet that I do not understand the youth of today

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Picking a random piece of media to be your whole personality for a year is the most relatable teen habit, and always will be.

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Accounting for inflation?
    Weird how nobody fucking talks about it though

    People who enjoy Avatar see it, then go outside and touch grass and wouldn't be caught dead discussing movies online. They are the lucky ones.

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    GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    People on this forum talk about it all the time.

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    GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    The clown movie.

    But also, a lot about Avatar 2.

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