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White Fragility in action: the Elon Musk story

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Brolo wrote: »
    i dislike subtweets because I'm too clueless to figure out who we're talking shit about


    the thing about subtweets is that I WILL drop everything to figure out what the hell everyone's talking about

    oh god yes

    particularly if it's like someone I have absolutely no connection to

    gotta go through all of their tweets, replies, mentions to figure out that it's like

    nate silver or something

    just someone I could possibly not give less of a shit about, but until I figure out it's them they're the most important controversial figure in the universe

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    So, following this conversation:

    "Dunking and parasocial relationships are toxic and psychologically damaging and a danger to democracy so whatever replaces Twitter should not have those things".

    "But we want those things".

    Is that correct so far?

    What's your excuse?

    I'm humans are wired to want many things that are not healthy for them in the long term.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    sometimes people try to make weird and problematic what are actually normal human interactions in social spaces, like honkwiching

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Britain's current PM, whoever that is
    sometimes people try to make weird and problematic what are actually normal human interactions in social spaces, like honkwiching

    No see you are supposed to two normal ones and then one weird one, thats the star trek way!

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    People already screenshot tweets and then post those screenshots for dunking. If anything, quote retweeting makes that shit easier to deal with by letting me block whoever the dunce being dunked on is so I don't have to see all that shit

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  • Mercutio87Mercutio87 So build that wall and build it strong cause We'll be there before too longRegistered User regular
    It was the best place to post, it was the worst place to post

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
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    Mercutio87 wrote: »
    It was the best place to post, it was the worst place to post

    A Tale of Two Twitters

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    sometimes people try to make weird and problematic what are actually normal human interactions in social spaces, like honkwiching

    :|

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    subpost did you see that one motherfucker talking about honkwiching

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I don't mean to say that bullying via quote RTs isn't a problem, or that amplifying hate speech to "dunk" on it isn't a problem, but I don't think Mastodon effectively solves those problems, and I don't think it mitigates them all that much, either.

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
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    subpost did you see that one motherfucker talking about honkwiching

    *laughs awkwardly* who would ever honkwich anyway

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
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    subpost did you see that one motherfucker talking about honkwiching

    Honkwiching is absolutely normal, conventional behaviour!

    help a fellow forumer meet their mental health care needs because USA healthcare sucks!

    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Bullying is an inevitability on any really public social communication, which is why most effective conflict resolution takes place in private

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
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    it's been pointed out elsewhere but the problem with discord is that it's a chat room

    you do not post there, you chat

    I need to post

    I don't particularly need to post

    But I do need posts to read

    I'm never in a million years gonna join a Discord and start scrolling through a channel and reading

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    the thing about discord is it sucks and it is not a better alternative for anything other than as a chatroom app

    Discord is a more user friendly IRC and I am baffled at folks who suggest it’s a viable Twitter alternative

    They’re two entirely different kinds of thing! It’s like if when AIM went down you told its users to switch to twitter as a replacement. They just fulfill entirely different styles of communication.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
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    Elon showing his ultra thin skin by randomly calling Trent Reznor names.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    discord is a really good text chatroom and group voice/video over IP call system, and not at all suited for being a social media system.

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  • ChallChall Registered User regular
    edited November 2022


    Elon showing his ultra thin skin by randomly calling Trent Reznor names.

    Maybe we can we trick him into shit-talking Taylor Swift and K-Pop and Furries and then just let nature take its course as he's torn to shreds and then the shreds are incinerated

    Chall on
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  • Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
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    Lol, buying the idea that cause you make metal music you are an emotionless entity.

    This fool. Look at him. Point and laugh.

  • TefTef Registered User regular
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    Didn’t Trent say he was quitting twitter? So not exactly random but very very petty

    help a fellow forumer meet their mental health care needs because USA healthcare sucks!

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    A head of lettuce
    Chall wrote: »


    Elon showing his ultra thin skin by randomly calling Trent Reznor names.

    Maybe we can we trick him into shit-talking Taylor Swift and K-Pop and Furries and then just let nature take its course as he's torn to shreds and then the shreds are incinerated

    Words cannot express how amazing that would be to witness

    as it is written, let it be done

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Cyberbullying people in a position of power has proven time and again to be a force for good

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    i can go on twitter and see what cool artists are drawing and talk to my friends and see photos of butt naked people doing sexy things and also hear about what videogames are good

    and i don't have to fuck with anything, all that stuff just shows up when i look at my twitter

    there's nowhere else on the internet that i can go to and get an update on my friend's new kid, a video of a baby otter, a shitpost mixing the gamecube startup screen with an eminem song, and a few pics of giant weiners and floppy titties

    I could go look for all of that stuff in different places, but right now I have a place where it just collects up for me to look at without spending all day using the internet like it was 1998

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Britain's current PM, whoever that is
    He's so soft he makes cottage cheese look hard, there's no way he's going to go after anyone who's actually popular and risk actual conflict.

  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    hey...the Swifties have Ticketmaster in their sights, let's let them focus

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Britain's current PM, whoever that is
    Why are they upset at Trent Reznor now? Also its sad that he's quote tweeting that idiot cat turd.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
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    Preacher wrote: »
    Why are they upset at Trent Reznor now? Also its sad that he's quote tweeting that idiot cat turd.

    "I’m about to depart [Twitter]," Reznor told The Hollywood Reporter. "We don’t need the arrogance of the billionaire class to feel like they can just come in and solve everything. Even without him involved, I just find that it has become such a toxic environment. For my mental health, I need to tune out. I don’t feel good being there anymore."

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  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
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    hello, i'm a journalist for six different corporate media sites you've never heard of. don't go to cohost or mastodon, they're bad and unsafe. instead go to HIVE, a highly polished socmed platform you've never heard of until today that definitely isn't funded by the CIA

    as a liberal leftist AND a former contributor to the new york times opinion column, i think we can all agree that social media is only safe when it is in the hands of wealthy private interests. you know you can trust me because i put "feminist" right next to an israel flag emoji

    idk man i just think it's funny that this site popped up basically overnight and suddenly the very same liberal journalist class that've been endlessly handwringing about smaller independent social media for weeks are like "at last, a platform you should trust sight unseen!"

    like yeah dude you know i've been on twitter for a good few years and i think the most important lesson to take away is that everything about twitter was fine except [mumbles incoherently] which is why we've made twitter but it's also instagram and definitely advertiser friendly

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  • ChallChall Registered User regular

    hello, i'm a journalist for six different corporate media sites you've never heard of. don't go to cohost or mastodon, they're bad and unsafe. instead go to HIVE, a highly polished socmed platform you've never heard of until today that definitely isn't funded by the CIA

    as a liberal leftist AND a former contributor to the new york times opinion column, i think we can all agree that social media is only safe when it is in the hands of wealthy private interests. you know you can trust me because i put "feminist" right next to an israel flag emoji

    idk man i just think it's funny that this site popped up basically overnight and suddenly the very same liberal journalist class that've been endlessly handwringing about smaller independent social media for weeks are like "at last, a platform you should trust sight unseen!"

    like yeah dude you know i've been on twitter for a good few years and i think the most important lesson to take away is that everything about twitter was fine except [mumbles incoherently] which is why we've made twitter but it's also instagram and definitely advertiser friendly


    Hive? More like C O L O S S A L P I L L A R O F W A S P E G G S

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    Preacher wrote: »
    Why are they upset at Trent Reznor now? Also its sad that he's quote tweeting that idiot cat turd.

    Apparently it's entirely that he deleted his Twitter account.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    let's go do not bring weapons

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular

    LaboUr. European afterall

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  • pookapooka Registered User regular
    Lol, buying the idea that cause you make metal music you are an emotionless entity.

    This fool. Look at him. Point and laugh.
    Like, yet again, it's completely ineffective as a dunk. Anyone at all familiar with Trent Reznor in the context of the music he makes knows that NIN is all about emotions. Especially ones that prompt crying. Yeah, sometimes (a lot of times) it's angry, or ...

    This dumb fuck heard "Closer" and read no further than a surface, "sex, whoOOOA!!!" edginess. So the shitposter (or narcissist) in him assumed --all of a piece-- a 'cool' persona can't admit human feelings.

    As if transgressive art is somehow separate from emotion. As if confronting and embracing those emotions is weakness, easy. Blugh.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Why is the immediate assumption CIA backing and not, y'know, some sort of paid ad deal?

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Britain's current PM, whoever that is
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Why are they upset at Trent Reznor now? Also its sad that he's quote tweeting that idiot cat turd.

    "I’m about to depart [Twitter]," Reznor told The Hollywood Reporter. "We don’t need the arrogance of the billionaire class to feel like they can just come in and solve everything. Even without him involved, I just find that it has become such a toxic environment. For my mental health, I need to tune out. I don’t feel good being there anymore."

    As someone who left twitter back in april when he was first announced as taking it over I will say it did wonders for my mental health.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    The only discords I read are fighting game discords because only chatrooms have a snowball's chance of keeping up

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Why is the immediate assumption CIA backing and not, y'know, some sort of paid ad deal?

    it's funny to say

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    pooka wrote: »
    Lol, buying the idea that cause you make metal music you are an emotionless entity.

    This fool. Look at him. Point and laugh.
    Like, yet again, it's completely ineffective as a dunk. Anyone at all familiar with Trent Reznor in the context of the music he makes knows that NIN is all about emotions. Especially ones that prompt crying. Yeah, sometimes (a lot of times) it's angry, or ...

    This dumb fuck heard "Closer" and read no further than a surface, "sex, whoOOOA!!!" edginess. So the shitposter (or narcissist) in him assumed --all of a piece-- a 'cool' persona can't admit human feelings.

    As if transgressive art is somehow separate from emotion. As if confronting and embracing those emotions is weakness, easy. Blugh.

    His most famous song is literally called Hurt.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Why is the immediate assumption CIA backing and not, y'know, some sort of paid ad deal?

    It can be both

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