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White Fragility in action: the Elon Musk story

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    But I can throw rocks harder than that

  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
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    You cannot throw rocks harder than that.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
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    Tox wrote: »
    I got that part yes

    I didn't until like last month. I was pronouncing it like "yee"

    I didn't until just now!

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
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    Peen wrote: »
    You cannot throw rocks harder than that.

    Or, if you can, like, time to go set some world records for the discus.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    100 km/h?

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Picking up the art of slingin as an adult seems like a good way to cave in your own orbital socket

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Tox wrote: »
    I got that part yes

    I didn't until like last month. I was pronouncing it like "yee"

    I didn't until just now!

    I was pronouncing it The. Because thorn.

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
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    But imagine the doctor walking dramatically through double doors and telling your sobbing family that you'd lived, you only shot half of your dick off with the sling, they were able to save part of the shaft and one testicle.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    But imagine the doctor walking dramatically through double doors and telling your sobbing family that you'd lived, you only shot half of your dick off with the sling, they were able to save part of the shaft and one testicle.

    i'm having a lot of trouble imaging my family sobbing over my dick, i tell you what

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    But imagine the doctor walking dramatically through double doors and telling your sobbing family that you'd lived, you only shot half of your dick off with the sling, they were able to save part of the shaft and one testicle.

    Make a kendama out of it.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Picking up the art of slingin as an adult seems like a good way to cave in your own orbital socket

    not me i ordered a bulk supply of distinctly shaped cowls from the internet specifically to prevent that from happening you should try being prepared next time

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    I was initially surprised that some of y'all didn't realize Ye was originally a nickname, because I'm pretty sure it shows up on a ton of his verses or from featured artists on his tracks, but then I realized Ye hasn't actually been primarily relevant for his music in like a decade and now I just feel kind of old.

    I also have a hell of a time referring to him as just Ye because there was always one of those subtle conversational nuances where using "Ye" over "Kanye" signaled some imperceptible alignment I didn't fit into.

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  • PerrsunPerrsun Registered User regular
    I haven’t paid attention to any of his music beyond the opening of Saints Row 3.

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
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    Perrsun wrote: »
    I haven’t paid attention to any of his music beyond the opening of Saints Row 3.

    That trailer rules!

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
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    100 km/h?

    I’ve seen 180 km/h in tests, but 100 MPH (aka, 160 km/h) is a more common figure I see.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    Britain's current PM, whoever that is
    I would have expected way more than 100km/h yeah

    That dude trying to hit the watermelon looked around 120-140 km/h based on my estimates comparing his slangin to the millions (and millions!) of Pitching Ninja gifs I viewed this MLB season

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    I'm pretty sure the stones are also noticeably heavier than baseballs, which makes that speed mean a lot more.

  • Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2022
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    This is just a guess but I would assume that with a sling, you're able to achieve those kinds of speeds consistently without tearing your shoulder apart the way that some pitchers eventually do. And maybe it's easier to keep the speed/accuracy reliable even with different shapes and sizes of rock that might be awkward to toss with your bare hands?

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
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    Docshifty wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure the stones are also noticeably heavier than baseballs, which makes that speed mean a lot more.

    Yeah, also, fundamentally, if one could throw as fast as one could sling, people in history would… not have slinged.

    People in history were smart people, after all!

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    Docshifty wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure the stones are also noticeably heavier than baseballs, which makes that speed mean a lot more.

    Sling bullets are typically ~1oz compared to 5-5.5oz for a baseball

    The dude trying to hit a watermelon died after his first miss or after a hit on an armored enemy- obviously the slangers of olden times were much better than him. I just kept watching going “just throw the fucking stone my dude.”

    Then the opening of the history video said the average speed of a slung stone was 100km/h and I was like losing my mind about how completely worthless it seemed as a weapon

    I’ve since learned more and speed and distance are in fact much greater with a sling as you’d expect

  • JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
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    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Slinging seems like a fun (if impractical) hobby to get into

    Would have to be very careful about how you enunciate when getting together your fellow hobbyists. “What’s up slingers!” Umm… Dave… why are your pants off?

    Fun fact: Pineapples are both a symbol of hospitality and swingers. A bunch of people at work wanted to get pineapple tattoos and I was like

    "Yeeeeeeeeeah nah."

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    Also I can throw a football over that mountain

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    The Roman's used (american) football shaped lead shot with grooves cut into them to make them whistle.

    Apparently they were so deadly they didn't even need to penetrate through leather armor, the blunt force trauma was enough to break bones and rupture organs. I've seen some claims they hit almost as hard as a modern .44 magnum bullet but I feel like that may be a stretch. Still, not a thing you want to fuck around with.

    Also, sling shot has a one up on bullets in that you can inscribe much more vulgarity onto it than you could on a whimmpy little cartridge.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    Jokerman wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Slinging seems like a fun (if impractical) hobby to get into

    Would have to be very careful about how you enunciate when getting together your fellow hobbyists. “What’s up slingers!” Umm… Dave… why are your pants off?

    Fun fact: Pineapples are both a symbol of hospitality and swingers. A bunch of people at work wanted to get pineapple tattoos and I was like

    "Yeeeeeeeeeah nah."

    Makes sense as swinging is the pinnacle of hospitality

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  • LucedesLucedes might be real Registered User regular
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    i’ve been pronouncing Ye like the dinosaur in the meme video

    not intentionally, i just didn’t know

  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I would love to get into slinging if I lived someplace with like, the space to do so, y'know, not an apartment in the city

    Probably archery as well, at least casually

  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I would've assumed it was pronounced "Yay" as in Kan-yay but seeing his little explanation about the Bible I guess its actually... "Yee?"

    I'm gonna say "Yeh" with an emphasis on the soft h.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
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    Straightzi wrote: »
    I would love to get into slinging if I lived someplace with like, the space to do so, y'know, not an apartment in the city

    Probably archery as well, at least casually

    You may have an archery range by you.

    If so, you may have an SCA group as well and they may have throwing weapon classes like javelins, axes and daggers.

    Not seen slings before though (may be a self injury liability to teach?)

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
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    There are recovered Greek sling bullets with dexai ("catch!") inscribed on them, which just shows you that no matter what time in history it is, dudes are just Like That

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  • NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
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    This is just a guess but I would assume that with a sling, you're able to achieve those kinds of speeds consistently without tearing your shoulder apart the way that some pitchers eventually do. And maybe it's easier to keep the speed/accuracy reliable even with different shapes and sizes of rock that might be awkward to toss with your bare hands?

    the big thing is that, much like with the bow and arrow or musket, you don't have to be accurate

    you're generally not one guy trying to hit one other guy off in the distance, you're a hundred guys trying to hit hundred other guys - even if you miss one you're likely to hit the guy next to him, and if you don't then your buddy might

    although that doesn't mean that you couldn't be terrifyingly accurate if you were trained, I guess:
    A hundred slingers were sent for from Aegium, Patrae and Dymae. These men had been in the habit, as their fathers had before them, of practicing with their slings, with which they used to hurl into the sea the round stones lying on the beach. [5] In this way they gained a more accurate and longer range than the Baliaric slingers. Their slings, too, were not made of a single strap, like those of the Baliarics and other nations, but they consisted of three thongs, stiffened by beings sewn together. [6] This prevented the bullet from flying off at random when the thong was let go; when fixed in the sling it could be so whirled round as to fly out as though from the string of a bow. [7] They used to send their stones through rings at a great distance, as targets, and were thus able to hit not only the head but whatever part of the face they aimed at. [8]

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
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    Also, much like with archery in the ancient world, one ace slinger with perfect aim was not really the strategy. You had a whole bunch of dudes lofting those arrows or rocks out there en masse

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I would love to get into slinging if I lived someplace with like, the space to do so, y'know, not an apartment in the city

    Probably archery as well, at least casually

    You may have an archery range by you.

    If so, you may have an SCA group as well and they may have throwing weapon classes like javelins, axes and daggers.

    Not seen slings before though (may be a self injury liability to teach?)

    I do but like

    That's an additional cost and probably an hour on the bus and all that

    SCA folks are almost assuredly out in the suburbs and even more inaccessible as such

  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    There are recovered Greek sling bullets with dexai ("catch!") inscribed on them, which just shows you that no matter what time in history it is, dudes are just Like That

    It's kinda weirdly comforting?

    Like, in 5000 years when we have retreated beneath the crust of the earth to escape the ravaged surface, a precious young mole-dude hybrid will absolutely use his gamma drill to etch a big ole peener into some igneous strata. His ancestors stretching back through counltess eons will all look on proudly and be like "lol nice"

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
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    Straightzi wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I would love to get into slinging if I lived someplace with like, the space to do so, y'know, not an apartment in the city

    Probably archery as well, at least casually

    You may have an archery range by you.

    If so, you may have an SCA group as well and they may have throwing weapon classes like javelins, axes and daggers.

    Not seen slings before though (may be a self injury liability to teach?)

    I do but like

    That's an additional cost and probably an hour on the bus and all that

    SCA folks are almost assuredly out in the suburbs and even more inaccessible as such

    Ah yeah, it’s all luck of the draw. There happens to be a big SCA presence in the suburb I live in but, there are no garauntees.

  • ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Try getting into atlatls, like to see someone manage to hit themselfs in the face with a atlatl spear youd really have to put work in to fuck that up, slings much like nunchuks seem almost designed to assassinate the wielder

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  • NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
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    Juggernut wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    There are recovered Greek sling bullets with dexai ("catch!") inscribed on them, which just shows you that no matter what time in history it is, dudes are just Like That

    It's kinda weirdly comforting?

    Like, in 5000 years when we have retreated beneath the crust of the earth to escape the ravaged surface, a precious young mole-dude hybrid will absolutely use his gamma drill to etch a big ole peener into some igneous strata. His ancestors stretching back through counltess eons will all look on proudly and be like "lol nice"

    personally I remember feeling this way when I read some of the graffiti from pompeii
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    'Secundus defecated here' three time on one wall.
    also, well, this one feels extremely relatable
    In one bar, a picture depicts two men playing dice. One shouts, "Six!" while his opponent holds up two fingers and says, "No, that’s not a ‘three’; it’s a ‘two’”. By the door of the bar, another picture shows a short man driving a group of men out. Above his head are the words, “Go on, get out of here! You have been fighting!”

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Tox wrote: »
    David - the original 360 no-scope

    david (if he was real) would've killed goliath around 1020bc-ish

    slings were around way longer than that!

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
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    Hobnail wrote: »
    Try getting into atlatls, like to see someone manage to hit themselfs in the face with a atlatl spear youd really have to put work in to fuck that up, slings much like nunchuks seem almost designed to assassinate the wielder

    The couple times I tried, an atlatl was shocking hard to use, definite learning curve to that thing.

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