I honestly do not understand the rage this game is getting from the internet at large. I've played about an hour and it's...fine. Fun, even!
Some people are acting like this game killed their dog. It's like they've never played an average video game before.
Average video games aren't allowed to exist anymore. Either it's the best thing ever or it's garbage and already a dead game.
I'm with you, this seems...fine, at least from the demo. Am I going to buy it at full price? Probably not, too much other great stuff to play. In a few months when it hits Steam sale? yeah, I could see myself getting 20 or 30 bucks out of this. Cringing at the bad take on American culture from a Japanese dev, enjoying the combat, getting a nice Steam sale's worth of fun out of it and moving on. It's definitely not worth all the hate.
But hey, that's the internet and has been for years now. How offended and angry can we be at everything.
Apparently the end of the game is kind of rushed/lame, that might have colored a good number of reviewers' overall thoughts. Also a sign of them just running out of time to really finish and polish the game.
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I managed to find a disc copy of the standard edition for £50 (the digital price is a crazy £75 or something), I liked the demo, and it's been decent enough fun at only ~3 and a half hours in.
If it gets worse I haven’t seen it so I dont know what they could mean.
It’s pretty standard for people who get Isekai’d to be down on their luck when it happens.
Sure but... She could have been in the tech industry and given the layoff notice. Then on the way home her car breaks down and her boyfriend leaves her. Something like that instead of what we got.
Yeah, I don't know why they felt they had to go with the
homeless orphan thief trope, especially for a POC character.
I mean, it's not that bad writing/dialogue (IMO, anyway), but it certainly could have been better, and I can see why some people might find it a bit 'cringey'.
They should have hired Rhianna Pratchett, she did good work on the Tomb Raider reboot series:
Yeah, to me this feels like a perfect storm of "game was rushed out a bit too early, needed a couple months more polish."
It seems like the dev team did the right thing and polished the shit out of the stuff you'd be spending 90% of your time in the game doing: the parkour, the movement, the battle animations, and the combat are all top notch, AAA-quality stuff.
But you're not DOING any of that in the first 2 hours. You're walking-and-talking, you're getting story setup, and I just went through a "stealth" section that felt like it was an alpha test for an unfinished section of a game 6 months away from launch. And first impressions matter a lot, so it's getting savaged by the internet at large, despite being pretty fun.....when you can do the fun stuff, which is not until Chapter 4!
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I think they also never recovered mindshare wise from that terrible in character narration trailer from a while back, which was widely mocked by a lot of people.
Modern Square Enix games always have bland or weird dialogue. It is a tradition. I guess Gary Witta did not write everything. He probably just did the main plot.
I really love how the map isn’t overpopulated with shit. Sure there’s tons of treasure chests as a little reward for always wondering “What’s up/over/down there?”
But in terms of optional side stuff for gear and stats they are so spread out that they feel like a reward for exploring more than a Ubisoft style open world laundry list to mindlessly go through.
This open world really is a playground. I zipped past a thing I wanted to investigate because I got too caught up in swinging along the side of a high aqueduct like Spider-Man.
If it gets worse I haven’t seen it so I dont know what they could mean.
It’s pretty standard for people who get Isekai’d to be down on their luck when it happens.
Sure but... She could have been in the tech industry and given the layoff notice. Then on the way home her car breaks down and her boyfriend leaves her. Something like that instead of what we got.
Yeah, I don't know why they felt they had to go with the
homeless orphan thief trope, especially for a POC character.
Dunno about how it might change the impression for POC characters, but:
'Homeless' and 'orphan' are pretty common for isekai plots, as it means when they inevitably decide that they prefer this world and want to stick around (in order to justify post-game and sequels), it doesn't turn them into a heartless monster for disappearing on their family (The Owl House is a good example of what happens when the protagonist still has ties to their old home and what that does to their loved ones, but that's a whole side-plot there'd be no reason to put in the game).
And I don't know if it'll apply here, but fantasy genre and orphan usually combine to reveal that the parents may turn out to be significant. If Frey turns out to be the kidnapped long-lost daughter of a local ruler or something, I won't be super shocked.
I went into the game thinking "Okay maybe it's a 7 but these reviews are being hyperbolic" but the more I play of this game the closer it's getting to 8. It just keeps getting better.
I've played games with fun combat but horrendous narratives that get much higher scores for no logical reason *cough* Fire Emblem *cough* and this games narrative isn't even bad, it's a fresh take because there haven't been any other big budget isekai action rpgs, let alone any game that tries to use fast paced magic based combat with so much freedom and movement. Like, the closest thing to this game would be Wizard of Legend's combat.
This isn't well trodden ground and if you stop and actually read all the lore archives the world building here is top notch despite some of the cutscenes being a little stilted.
Yeah, hype can really get out of control. Some of my favourite games just basically came out of nowhere for me, and the fact that I wasn't expecting them made them way better.
I'm seeing increasing amounts of positive feedback from the people who've actually played this long-term, rather than the 'lol I saw a release trailer and made a meme' reactions.
I went into the game thinking "Okay maybe it's a 7 but these reviews are being hyperbolic" but the more I play of this game the closer it's getting to 8. It just keeps getting better.
I've played games with fun combat but horrendous narratives that get much higher scores for no logical reason *cough* Fire Emblem *cough* and this games narrative isn't even bad, it's a fresh take because there haven't been any other big budget isekai action rpgs, let alone any game that tries to use fast paced magic based combat with so much freedom and movement. Like, the closest thing to this game would be Wizard of Legend's combat.
This isn't well trodden ground and if you stop and actually read all the lore archives the world building here is top notch despite some of the cutscenes being a little stilted.
I’m basically waiting for feedback/optimization on the pc port before I take the plunge, but the game was definitely on my list based on what I’d seen on it in previews and the like and I was disappointed at the reception so I’m glad to hear maybe the internet response is overblown.
Its a bit weird to me because there seemed to be a large amount of bandwagoning bagging on release and then the few days after I’ve seen a lot of “oh I played this and it’s actually good” responses in various internet places.
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I played the demo a bit on a 1920x1080 TV with a 3080 and recentish CPU and it was totally fine
Handled me using a controller with no fuss, didn't have to muck about with any settings, didn't get mad about tabbing out, basically none of the little signifiers of a "rough" port showed up for me
I love that this game uses the video game logic of if you're falling to the ground from high above, all you have to do is shoot something out to pull yourself to the ground *faster* and it negates the fall damage.
The biggest miss for me so far is that you're locked out of major schools of magic until you beat story bosses. In an open world game.
It almost feels like they should've made it a mostly linear experience until you get all your magic schools, and then open it up. Or put those major school unlocks out in the open world, instead.
It is a mostly linear experience until you get magic that opens up the world and the next area. It's not actually a true open world game.
Wait, is this true? I missed a few items in some of the beginning stages assuming I’d be able to trace back and get them later. Right now the game doesn’t let me backtrack but I assumed that restriction opens up later on and I could go anywhere.
Please don’t tell me I need to start over. I’m an OCD completionist so items I missed permanently even if they are not unique items are a no-no for me.
The biggest miss for me so far is that you're locked out of major schools of magic until you beat story bosses. In an open world game.
It almost feels like they should've made it a mostly linear experience until you get all your magic schools, and then open it up. Or put those major school unlocks out in the open world, instead.
It is a mostly linear experience until you get magic that opens up the world and the next area. It's not actually a true open world game.
Wait, is this true? I missed a few items in some of the beginning stages assuming I’d be able to trace back and get them later. Right now the game doesn’t let me backtrack but I assumed that restriction opens up later on and I could go anywhere.
Please don’t tell me I need to start over. I’m an OCD completionist so items I missed permanently even if they are not unique items are a no-no for me.
No it's not that kind of Linear.
It's just not totally open world in that even though they want you to deal with the Fire Tanta first, you can wander the entire world map and head to other zones instead.
You go deal with the Fire Tanta, and then you get the Fire Whip that let's you zip to high points, launch yourself into the air, and swing around like Spider Man and those movement abilities let you open up new areas to explore.
I'm able to run this at a solid 60 fps on medium settings with a 3070 TI at 1920x1080.
I haven't had any issues with the pc port, but I'm also not trying to play this at 4k with Ray tracing
I'm not exaggerating or anything when I say I'm playing on Ultra-High settings at 3840x2160 with Ray-Tracing enabled on a 2080 Ti. Are you sure you guys can’t push it up more?
Unless I’m missing some setting I don’t have enabled. But I went through all the settings and everything seems to be on max. I even have Vsync enabled.
Sometimes this game almost plays like a battle-mage type Musou game:
Yeah they really drive home how fucked the rest of Athia is outside of Cipal. Your first time down the cliffside only to see *ALL* of those zombies shambling up toward you I was like "holy shit is that for real? Look at all of those."
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Hmm...Yeah you guys convinced me into giving this game a buy...right after I'm done with Fire Emblem.
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Some people are acting like this game killed their dog. It's like they've never played an average video game before.
Average video games aren't allowed to exist anymore. Either it's the best thing ever or it's garbage and already a dead game.
I'm with you, this seems...fine, at least from the demo. Am I going to buy it at full price? Probably not, too much other great stuff to play. In a few months when it hits Steam sale? yeah, I could see myself getting 20 or 30 bucks out of this. Cringing at the bad take on American culture from a Japanese dev, enjoying the combat, getting a nice Steam sale's worth of fun out of it and moving on. It's definitely not worth all the hate.
But hey, that's the internet and has been for years now. How offended and angry can we be at everything.
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Plus, you can pet the cats, so it's an automatic GOTY contender:
They should have hired Rhianna Pratchett, she did good work on the Tomb Raider reboot series:
It seems like the dev team did the right thing and polished the shit out of the stuff you'd be spending 90% of your time in the game doing: the parkour, the movement, the battle animations, and the combat are all top notch, AAA-quality stuff.
But you're not DOING any of that in the first 2 hours. You're walking-and-talking, you're getting story setup, and I just went through a "stealth" section that felt like it was an alpha test for an unfinished section of a game 6 months away from launch. And first impressions matter a lot, so it's getting savaged by the internet at large, despite being pretty fun.....when you can do the fun stuff, which is not until Chapter 4!
But in terms of optional side stuff for gear and stats they are so spread out that they feel like a reward for exploring more than a Ubisoft style open world laundry list to mindlessly go through.
This open world really is a playground. I zipped past a thing I wanted to investigate because I got too caught up in swinging along the side of a high aqueduct like Spider-Man.
And I don't know if it'll apply here, but fantasy genre and orphan usually combine to reveal that the parents may turn out to be significant. If Frey turns out to be the kidnapped long-lost daughter of a local ruler or something, I won't be super shocked.
I've played games with fun combat but horrendous narratives that get much higher scores for no logical reason *cough* Fire Emblem *cough* and this games narrative isn't even bad, it's a fresh take because there haven't been any other big budget isekai action rpgs, let alone any game that tries to use fast paced magic based combat with so much freedom and movement. Like, the closest thing to this game would be Wizard of Legend's combat.
This isn't well trodden ground and if you stop and actually read all the lore archives the world building here is top notch despite some of the cutscenes being a little stilted.
I usually just see something then I'm like "That looks cool, can't wait for it to release."
I actually think Final Fantasy is what helped me do it lol. Cause those games took forever.
I'm seeing increasing amounts of positive feedback from the people who've actually played this long-term, rather than the 'lol I saw a release trailer and made a meme' reactions.
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I’m basically waiting for feedback/optimization on the pc port before I take the plunge, but the game was definitely on my list based on what I’d seen on it in previews and the like and I was disappointed at the reception so I’m glad to hear maybe the internet response is overblown.
Its a bit weird to me because there seemed to be a large amount of bandwagoning bagging on release and then the few days after I’ve seen a lot of “oh I played this and it’s actually good” responses in various internet places.
Handled me using a controller with no fuss, didn't have to muck about with any settings, didn't get mad about tabbing out, basically none of the little signifiers of a "rough" port showed up for me
There is a demo on Steam b the w
I haven't had any issues with the pc port, but I'm also not trying to play this at 4k with Ray tracing
Wait, is this true? I missed a few items in some of the beginning stages assuming I’d be able to trace back and get them later. Right now the game doesn’t let me backtrack but I assumed that restriction opens up later on and I could go anywhere.
Please don’t tell me I need to start over. I’m an OCD completionist so items I missed permanently even if they are not unique items are a no-no for me.
They should have did something similar to Fallout: New Vegas. Just talk to NPCs, no cutscenes.
No it's not that kind of Linear.
It's just not totally open world in that even though they want you to deal with the Fire Tanta first, you can wander the entire world map and head to other zones instead.
You go deal with the Fire Tanta, and then you get the Fire Whip that let's you zip to high points, launch yourself into the air, and swing around like Spider Man and those movement abilities let you open up new areas to explore.
I'm not exaggerating or anything when I say I'm playing on Ultra-High settings at 3840x2160 with Ray-Tracing enabled on a 2080 Ti. Are you sure you guys can’t push it up more?
Unless I’m missing some setting I don’t have enabled. But I went through all the settings and everything seems to be on max. I even have Vsync enabled.
Yeah they really drive home how fucked the rest of Athia is outside of Cipal. Your first time down the cliffside only to see *ALL* of those zombies shambling up toward you I was like "holy shit is that for real? Look at all of those."
Maybe I'd go for it now if Dead Space weren't coming out tomorrow, but it is.
Thats also one of those extremely individual opinion kinda things.
Like so far Frey just talks like a pretty normal human and cuff is just like any other banter-centric sidekick character.
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You can yea.
I haven't had any issues with the normal setting so far. But there is an option there!
Frey is also not nearly as insufferable as people on the internet wanted me to believe. She's fine. Some of her swearing is hilarious, actually.
100% this is all because of that awful marketing trailer a while back.
Nowhere near as bad in actual practice.