I've got a friend who played through all of Wrath of the Righteous and I watched it sapped his will to live in real time. It's one of those games where I see someone saying "I'm gonna play this, I heard it's good!" and I start running in slow motion yelling "nooooooooooo"
I feel like Mass Effect really gets remembered well because it avoids this problem by splitting the 60-100 hour game into 3 different chunks.
Well that and they were fun games with Martin Sheen being a total asshole. FUCK YOU ILLUSIVE MAN SMOKE DEEZ NUTS!
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
NEW: Yesterday EA and Respawn quietly canceled a single-player game in the Apex/Titanfall universe, according to three people familiar. EA will try to find new positions for the ~50 people who were on the team but will lay off those who can't be placed:
well, fuck
Why can't anybody figure out how to make a good single player game based on a multiplayer hero shooter
Thank goodness they retooled this fun looking title into the smash hit that was Fuse. Really dodged the bullet there.
Also, every time someone accuses another game of copying Overwatch skills I try and fail to remember the name "Overstrike" for the shield that Blizzard totally yoinked for Reinhardt (and all the stuff they lifted from TF2, etc).
I don't think it was the length of Wrath of the Righteous that was the problem. It was that the story got worse and the combat got extremely tedious even if you min-maxed down one of the few paths that would work.
NEW: Yesterday EA and Respawn quietly canceled a single-player game in the Apex/Titanfall universe, according to three people familiar. EA will try to find new positions for the ~50 people who were on the team but will lay off those who can't be placed:
well, fuck
Once you enter the EA franchise mines the only way out is to get fired. Respawn, meet Raven, shake hands with your elders.
[edit] Wait, Raven's Activision. The other franchise mine.
Where's that comic that shows EA taking a dev studio to a mass grave of game devs and then killing it
I don't think it was the length of Wrath of the Righteous that was the problem. It was that the story got worse and the combat got extremely tedious even if you min-maxed down one of the few paths that would work.
It also had a problem of minor decisions you made in the first 5-10 hours coming back and locking off branches 80 hours into the fuckin game
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i got burned badly enough by Kingmaker to know that I probably wouldn't enjoy WotR
i'm not sure if it's more a matter of just me being old, but I found pathfinder more obtuse to learn than BG's AD&D 2E ruleset
just really difficult to figure out what I was screwing up when my entire party got wiped multiple times in a chance encounter in the first chapter of the game, or what I needed to change to avoid that
Pathfinder was born a fiddly system and they certainly didn't streamline it. Then again, that's what you get when people think a system that can produce Pun-Pun the magical wishing kobold is good, actually, and that level of multiclassing should be standard.
i got burned badly enough by Kingmaker to know that I probably wouldn't enjoy WotR
i'm not sure if it's more a matter of just me being old, but I found pathfinder more obtuse to learn than BG's AD&D 2E ruleset
just really difficult to figure out what I was screwing up when my entire party got wiped multiple times in a chance encounter in the first chapter of the game, or what I needed to change to avoid that
What's that, we're talking about the BG encounter right at the start of the game where they throw a mage at you that immediately casts Mirror Image and then proceeds to wreck you?
I'm trying to think what other games would be on the "Played this as a teen, never doing it again so I can have good vibes only," like Farcry 3.
Probably Resident Evil 5? But that's at least like, kinda fun co-op.
Resident Evil 5.
A decent number of the Harry Potter games have moderately fond memories in my head.
A shit ton of Star Fox Assault and Star Fox 64 vs. mode, which probably don't hold up very well.
Most Mario Party games, except the good ones. Nobody knows which ones the good ones are.
The absurd amount of grinding I did in some GBA DBZ game where you got 33% more stat ups per level if you wore a specific hat and only got meaningful EXP with super stat lowering training gear, basically playing the entire game on turbo hard mode to max stats I was losing to wear even heavier training gear
Every Fallout and Elder Scrolls game
League of legends and DotA, so I can pretend I have grown as a person and wouldn't wind up getting mad at the game instead of having grown as a person and realizing my brain cannot turn off hypercompetitive mode playing those games.
Literally anything I ever played on Newgrounds, probably.
Pathfinder was born a fiddly system and they certainly didn't streamline it. Then again, that's what you get when people think a system that can produce Pun-Pun the magical wishing kobold is good, actually, and that level of multiclassing should be standard.
Well akshually, Pun-Pun doesn't really require much multiclassing, just access to an extremely broken and vaguely written ability of a certain creature that lets you grant another creature your stats and abilities.
I'm trying to think what other games would be on the "Played this as a teen, never doing it again so I can have good vibes only," like Farcry 3.
Probably Resident Evil 5? But that's at least like, kinda fun co-op.
Resident Evil 5.
A decent number of the Harry Potter games have moderately fond memories in my head.
A shit ton of Star Fox Assault and Star Fox 64 vs. mode, which probably don't hold up very well.
Most Mario Party games, except the good ones. Nobody knows which ones the good ones are.
The absurd amount of grinding I did in some GBA DBZ game where you got 33% more stat ups per level if you wore a specific hat and only got meaningful EXP with super stat lowering training gear, basically playing the entire game on turbo hard mode to max stats I was losing to wear even heavier training gear
Every Fallout and Elder Scrolls game
League of legends and DotA, so I can pretend I have grown as a person and wouldn't wind up getting mad at the game instead of having grown as a person and realizing my brain cannot turn off hypercompetitive mode playing those games.
Literally anything I ever played on Newgrounds, probably.
I sure did play every single Leisure Suit Larry game as a kid and man alive do I need to never, ever revisit even a single one of those
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i got burned badly enough by Kingmaker to know that I probably wouldn't enjoy WotR
i'm not sure if it's more a matter of just me being old, but I found pathfinder more obtuse to learn than BG's AD&D 2E ruleset
just really difficult to figure out what I was screwing up when my entire party got wiped multiple times in a chance encounter in the first chapter of the game, or what I needed to change to avoid that
What's that, we're talking about the BG encounter right at the start of the game where they throw a mage at you that immediately casts Mirror Image and then proceeds to wreck you?
that mage doesn't have shit on the wee spiderlings
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My TTRPG group just voted to play our next campaign in Pathfinder 2.0 over my vocal objections and I'm not super psyched about it. I'm not gonna like, quit, but I'm not really looking forward to dealing with that excel spreadsheet of a game system.
I've got a friend who played through all of Wrath of the Righteous and I watched it sapped his will to live in real time. It's one of those games where I see someone saying "I'm gonna play this, I heard it's good!" and I start running in slow motion yelling "nooooooooooo"
I made it good by modding out the army portion to auto-win every battle, so I only have to care about the CRPG. There's a lot I loved about the CRPG portion but I don't think I would have made it all the way through the game if I legitimately had to interact with the army management.
I’m cautiously optimistic for Rogue Trader since they seem to be going for their own game systems instead of trying to simulate the tabletop game completely, but I did not enjoy what little I played of Kingmaker. Mind that was before the turn based mode was added. Like even just making a character there was amazingly byzantine.
I do have two friends who love the pathfinder tabletop, and in fact tried to get us play it with a third party supplement that made character building even more complicated though admittedly more free form (spheres of power). I did eventually make something cool, a Kitsune Alchemist that could give massive buffs by mutating party members and also had a plant homonculus that was basically a malboro from final fantasy. Then we played a single session before our friend running it decided to stop. I probably spent more time building that character than actually playing.
i've been surprised at what games i've wanted to revisit vs. what games i don't really care to
ocarina of time? eh, whatever. i don't even think it would age poorly, just... i'm good
metroid prime? practically frothing to replay it
i replayed okami a few weeks ago and didn't expect to enjoy it nearly as much as i did
Its weird I don't normally reread books, or rewatch movies, tv shows, or games, but some of them for whatever reason? Can't get enough. I've done the Mass Effect games countless times, replayed Dead space got to be like twenty times and the new one already logged two completions.
Its not even subject matter its just a feeling I guess?
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
What a fucking weird franchise. Game with a godawful single player “campaign” gets a sequel resulting in one of the best FPS campaigns of the decade, and then gets a multi-player only spinoff. Then the universe continues to spite us for wanting another single player outing.
Everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty
does anyone even make single player first person shooters anymore? I guess some indie studios doing lower budget retro style games?
Oh I guess valve made that VR half life 2 prequel
The first one didn't even have a single player campaign as I recall it was just a tutorial for the multi. I thought the second game didn't really do all that great though the story mode was pretty solid?
And weirdly Respawn did Fallen Order which is 100% a solo game experience. And the most recent dead space remake was done by motive who has previously done battlefront 2 and the star wars star fighter combat game
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
does anyone even make single player first person shooters anymore? I guess some indie studios doing lower budget retro style games?
For a single-player first-person game in which you can technically get and shoot a gun, if you become adept enough at navigating a barter economy to successfully trade some mostly-fresh milk for a couple of bullets, might I recommend... Pathologic 2?
does anyone even make single player first person shooters anymore? I guess some indie studios doing lower budget retro style games?
Oh I guess valve made that VR half life 2 prequel
Yeah, I want to say you probably want to see if there's a "Boomer Shooter" tag on Steam. That's the modern term of art for old-school Doom-likes, of which I recall seeing two or three at GDQ here and there. Fashion Police Squad, some kind of cosmic-horror Quake/Doom send-up whose name slips my mind right now... they're definitely out there.
My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
does anyone even make single player first person shooters anymore? I guess some indie studios doing lower budget retro style games?
For a single-player first-person game in which you can technically get and shoot a gun, if you become adept enough at navigating a barter economy to successfully trade some mostly-fresh milk for a couple of bullets, might I recommend... Pathologic 2?
I have had that in my steam library for ages and I keep meaning to actually play it. I started it up and the beginning was intimidatingly strange but super cool
yeah RPG shooters aren't what I mean either. I wouldn't count those or the bethesda fallouts or deathloop or anything where there's more to it than proceeding through levels shooting people.
pathologic (2) is definitely not the kind of game that I'm talking about
No no, you were definitely thinking about Pathologic 2, the game that jumps to everyone's mind when they hear those three beautiful letters: eff pee ess
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The Shadow Warrior games, I guess? Didn't a new one of those just come out?
And the Dooms?
maybe the Wolfensteins but it's been a bit since the last one with no more on the horizon.
I think Ember might the most interesting? "What if someone was so good and pure that even the worst of the worst were changed by her?" And refuse to undercut that idea in the name or realism or grittiness or whatever.
I hate that older millenials and gen x caller ourselves boomers, we're not, we're just old, shit we liked from when we were young wasn't associated with our parents. Its us, we're the walking olds.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
does anyone even make single player first person shooters anymore? I guess some indie studios doing lower budget retro style games?
Oh I guess valve made that VR half life 2 prequel
I hate that older millenials and gen x caller ourselves boomers, we're not, we're just old, shit we liked from when we were young wasn't associated with our parents. Its us, we're the walking olds.
First time I ever saw Doom my Dad's brother was playing it, and he's very much a boomer
This single anecdote proves your entire thesis wrong, I am so terribly sorry
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I hate that older millenials and gen x caller ourselves boomers, we're not, we're just old, shit we liked from when we were young wasn't associated with our parents. Its us, we're the walking olds.
First time I ever saw Doom my Dad's brother was playing it, and he's very much a boomer
This single anecdote proves your entire thesis wrong, I am so terribly sorry
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Well that and they were fun games with Martin Sheen being a total asshole. FUCK YOU ILLUSIVE MAN SMOKE DEEZ NUTS!
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Also, every time someone accuses another game of copying Overwatch skills I try and fail to remember the name "Overstrike" for the shield that Blizzard totally yoinked for Reinhardt (and all the stuff they lifted from TF2, etc).
Where's that comic that shows EA taking a dev studio to a mass grave of game devs and then killing it
It also had a problem of minor decisions you made in the first 5-10 hours coming back and locking off branches 80 hours into the fuckin game
i'm not sure if it's more a matter of just me being old, but I found pathfinder more obtuse to learn than BG's AD&D 2E ruleset
just really difficult to figure out what I was screwing up when my entire party got wiped multiple times in a chance encounter in the first chapter of the game, or what I needed to change to avoid that
Well akshually, Pun-Pun doesn't really require much multiclassing, just access to an extremely broken and vaguely written ability of a certain creature that lets you grant another creature your stats and abilities.
I sure did play every single Leisure Suit Larry game as a kid and man alive do I need to never, ever revisit even a single one of those
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-long-road-to-the-secret-ending-of-pathfinder-kingmaker/
that mage doesn't have shit on the wee spiderlings
I made it good by modding out the army portion to auto-win every battle, so I only have to care about the CRPG. There's a lot I loved about the CRPG portion but I don't think I would have made it all the way through the game if I legitimately had to interact with the army management.
ocarina of time? eh, whatever. i don't even think it would age poorly, just... i'm good
metroid prime? practically frothing to replay it
i replayed okami a few weeks ago and didn't expect to enjoy it nearly as much as i did
I do have two friends who love the pathfinder tabletop, and in fact tried to get us play it with a third party supplement that made character building even more complicated though admittedly more free form (spheres of power). I did eventually make something cool, a Kitsune Alchemist that could give massive buffs by mutating party members and also had a plant homonculus that was basically a malboro from final fantasy. Then we played a single session before our friend running it decided to stop. I probably spent more time building that character than actually playing.
Its weird I don't normally reread books, or rewatch movies, tv shows, or games, but some of them for whatever reason? Can't get enough. I've done the Mass Effect games countless times, replayed Dead space got to be like twenty times and the new one already logged two completions.
Its not even subject matter its just a feeling I guess?
pleasepaypreacher.net
What a fucking weird franchise. Game with a godawful single player “campaign” gets a sequel resulting in one of the best FPS campaigns of the decade, and then gets a multi-player only spinoff. Then the universe continues to spite us for wanting another single player outing.
Oh I guess valve made that VR half life 2 prequel
And weirdly Respawn did Fallen Order which is 100% a solo game experience. And the most recent dead space remake was done by motive who has previously done battlefront 2 and the star wars star fighter combat game
pleasepaypreacher.net
For a single-player first-person game in which you can technically get and shoot a gun, if you become adept enough at navigating a barter economy to successfully trade some mostly-fresh milk for a couple of bullets, might I recommend... Pathologic 2?
High on life is the closest I can think off. There are a few RPG shooters, like Atomic hearts and stalker 2
Yeah, I want to say you probably want to see if there's a "Boomer Shooter" tag on Steam. That's the modern term of art for old-school Doom-likes, of which I recall seeing two or three at GDQ here and there. Fashion Police Squad, some kind of cosmic-horror Quake/Doom send-up whose name slips my mind right now... they're definitely out there.
I have had that in my steam library for ages and I keep meaning to actually play it. I started it up and the beginning was intimidatingly strange but super cool
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No no, you were definitely thinking about Pathologic 2, the game that jumps to everyone's mind when they hear those three beautiful letters: eff pee ess
And the Dooms?
maybe the Wolfensteins but it's been a bit since the last one with no more on the horizon.
I think Ember might the most interesting? "What if someone was so good and pure that even the worst of the worst were changed by her?" And refuse to undercut that idea in the name or realism or grittiness or whatever.
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there's a new cod game every year
First time I ever saw Doom my Dad's brother was playing it, and he's very much a boomer
This single anecdote proves your entire thesis wrong, I am so terribly sorry
are you though
unfortunately the gameplay of the wolfenstein games is...the worst part
unless you drop it to easy, which you should do anyways, because why bother making slaughtering Nazis a difficult endeavor