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  • KamiroKamiro Registered User regular
    TTODewback wrote: »
    Kamiro wrote: »
    Tumin wrote: »
    I dont even know how you explain 40K to anyone outside a gaming community. What is gonna run through minds seeing this Amazon ad at the superbowl?

    Yeah so its a tabletop game originally

    Ah okay like uh Monopoly

    Well...no...like wargaming

    Oh like LARP?

    OK well anyway so its in the future and theres all these aliens

    Like Star Trek?

    Well,

    just have everyone pretend it's a Starship Troopers sequel

    just like starship troopers everyone misunderstands the source material and thinks the empire is great

    what's Paul Verhoeven doing these days?

  • TuminTumin Registered User regular
    "OK at the very least" the title of my work annual review

  • Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    Tumin wrote: »
    I dont even know how you explain 40K to anyone outside a gaming community

    Yeah so its a tabletop game originally

    Ah okay like uh Monopoly

    Well...no...like wargaming

    Oh like LARP?

    OK well anyway so its in the future and theres all these aliens

    Like Star Trek?

    Well,

    It’s easy

    So you know like Dune, Canticle for Leibowitz, the original concept for Ghostbusters taking place in space, and Event Horizon?

    Imagine if someone stirred that in a pot and added meth

    Like, wow that’s a lot of meth

    That’s 40k

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
  • ChallChall Registered User regular
    Tumin wrote: »
    I dont even know how you explain 40K to anyone outside a gaming community. What is gonna run through minds seeing this Amazon ad at the superbowl?

    Yeah so its a tabletop game originally

    Ah okay like uh Monopoly

    Well...no...like wargaming

    Oh like LARP?

    OK well anyway so its in the future and theres all these aliens

    Like Star Trek?

    Well,

    And why is it 40,000?

    Well, that's the year it takes place in, and also how much money it winds up costing

  • KamiroKamiro Registered User regular
    40K CU, let's go!

  • TuminTumin Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    Wheres my goddamn Hyperion short series
    In November 2021, it was announced that Warner Bros. and Bradley Cooper would instead be developing Hyperion as a film.

    Not like this

    Tumin on
  • Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    Surfpossum wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    The point is people are hyped for Warhammer 40K brought to you by the neck-snapping Superman. The hype is unearned. Maybe it's pity hype after DC did Cavill dirty.
    The last video game thing Cavill was in was The Witcher and that was v good

    Ergo,

    Yeah if Cavill is involved I’m actually hopeful

    Dude is familiar with the setting

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    I took a half day off so I can get shit done for this party tomorrow. Two more meetings to go.

    are YOU on the beer list?
  • TuminTumin Registered User regular
    Surfpossum wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    The point is people are hyped for Warhammer 40K brought to you by the neck-snapping Superman. The hype is unearned. Maybe it's pity hype after DC did Cavill dirty.
    The last video game thing Cavill was in was The Witcher and that was v good

    Ergo,

    Yeah if Cavill is involved I’m actually hopeful

    Dude is familiar with the setting

    I am not sure his hyperfamiliarity and it being a passion project will create an accessible product

    But it might be work for us

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    Tumin wrote: »
    I dont even know how you explain 40K to anyone outside a gaming community. What is gonna run through minds seeing this Amazon ad at the superbowl?

    Yeah so its a tabletop game originally

    Ah okay like uh Monopoly

    Well...no...like wargaming

    Oh like LARP?

    OK well anyway so its in the future and theres all these aliens

    Like Star Trek?

    Well,

    The thing is that most of the good fiction in the setting doesn't set out to explain the whole thing

    Part of the point of the setting as a whole is that it's vast, significant events take place across huge spans of time, and most narrators of those events are unreliable

    The better approach is explaining the characters

    This guy hunts dangerous rogue psychics
    These are grunt soldiers on a backwater world fighting a weird alien threat
    This is an alien cult trying to take over a planetary government

    Etc.

  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    the warcraft movie made ZERO sense to someone who hasn't played world of warcraft. They didn't even try to make it make sense.

    It reminded me of those live action anime adaptations that get made in japan, where the point isn't to tell a good story or to stand alone as a work of art, but rather to showcase a bunch of professional cosplay and do a quick greatest hits of fan-favorite scenes from the anime.

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    i didn't really enjoy the Witcher show

    it was fine but i felt very much like the fact i never played the games hindered my experience

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    Tumin wrote: »
    Surfpossum wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    The point is people are hyped for Warhammer 40K brought to you by the neck-snapping Superman. The hype is unearned. Maybe it's pity hype after DC did Cavill dirty.
    The last video game thing Cavill was in was The Witcher and that was v good

    Ergo,

    Yeah if Cavill is involved I’m actually hopeful

    Dude is familiar with the setting

    I am not sure his hyperfamiliarity and it being a passion project will create an accessible product

    But it might be work for us

    Oh I don’t give a shit about newcomers to 40k, the great unwashed masses

    This is pure unfiltered nerd on nerd action here

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    This is a great use of 20 minutes if you've got it to spare. Very peaceful and relaxing as this wildlife photographer builds a pond and records it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LvaX748pVI

    are YOU on the beer list?
  • KamiroKamiro Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i didn't really enjoy the Witcher show

    it was fine but i felt very much like the fact i never played the games hindered my experience

    i just enjoyed Cavill growl at things

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    WH40K is very much a property where you can make a movie that's accessible to anyone and the fans will hate it or a movie that's impenetrable to anyone but the fans and everyone else will hate it

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • TuminTumin Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    japan wrote: »
    Tumin wrote: »
    I dont even know how you explain 40K to anyone outside a gaming community. What is gonna run through minds seeing this Amazon ad at the superbowl?

    Yeah so its a tabletop game originally

    Ah okay like uh Monopoly

    Well...no...like wargaming

    Oh like LARP?

    OK well anyway so its in the future and theres all these aliens

    Like Star Trek?

    Well,

    The thing is that most of the good fiction in the setting doesn't set out to explain the whole thing

    Part of the point of the setting as a whole is that it's vast, significant events take place across huge spans of time, and most narrators of those events are unreliable

    The better approach is explaining the characters

    This guy hunts dangerous rogue psychics
    These are grunt soldiers on a backwater world fighting a weird alien threat
    This is an alien cult trying to take over a planetary government

    Etc.

    I dont disagree but I think the soul of 40K is a really tough sell.

    You know, Star Trek has "live long and prosper" and "to go where noone has gone before, explore new worlds"

    Warhammer 40k dot com has uh

    "In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, THERE IS ONLY WAR"

    And this is me with my studio exec / publisher hat mind, I cant wait to see what madness he gets greenlit.

    I had my assistant pull up the IP website and she frowned deeply!

    Tumin on
  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    Conversely the really bad 40k fiction (which there is a lot of) is the stuff where someone has tried to work in all of their favourite setting elements and it becomes a sprawling, incoherent mess

    Most often manifesting as "and there were space marines for some reason"

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Oh hey, we're back.

    So how about the Moon exploding [chat]? Funny thing, eh?

  • KamiroKamiro Registered User regular
    I think the only thing I knew about the Witcher was the existence of Triss and Yen and who the bad guys were.

    Still enjoyed it, cause I love me some fantasy and also my standards are pretty low

  • Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    just wet hot
    slippery
    Uh
    Moistness for the Emperor

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Like this is the shit I want in a 40k fight.

    https://youtu.be/zXvKIyobJ8E

    u7stthr17eud.png
  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Binding of Isaac is real fucking weird

    I'm not really a bullet hell fan but I've really been digging on Brotato, so I got to looking at the wiki and uh no I'm okay thanks

    Issac rules. It's more roguelike than Brotato though. Not really the same type of game.

    Only the major Issac bosses are bullet hell.

    No I mean plot-wise

    Brotato: You are a potato with a Rambo bandana, little blob baddies try to eat you

    Isaac:
    WOMB SATAN DEATH MOM, our child hero suffocates in a chest, the end

    I was checking the wiki and was not ready for that

    SummaryJudgment on
  • TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    Kamiro wrote: »
    I think the only thing I knew about the Witcher was the existence of Triss and Yen and who the bad guys were.

    Still enjoyed it, cause I love me some fantasy and also my standards are pretty low

    man is the real monster
    and elves

    Bless your heart.
  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i didn't really enjoy the Witcher show

    it was fine but i felt very much like the fact i never played the games hindered my experience

    I actually loved it, even if I though I haven't played the games or read the books. I felt it stood on its own well and the blend of Hercules/Xena/Monster-of-the-week with a prestige series budget and pacing was really great. It was well made but not overly heavy or serious.

    The first season's structure where there were three timelines, scenes mixed, totally unmarked was... I don't think it did the show any favors and it probably would have been more accessible without. But was interesting! I sort of liked piecing together the plot talking to friends after watching an episode.

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
  • Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    japan wrote: »
    Conversely the really bad 40k fiction (which there is a lot of) is the stuff where someone has tried to work in all of their favourite setting elements and it becomes a sprawling, incoherent mess

    Most often manifesting as "and there were space marines for some reason"

    https://youtu.be/WHoOVoqV3aE

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
  • TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    also that witcher and PBS crossover
    where they all break into song and sing
    Conjunction Junction

    Bless your heart.
  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    Tumin wrote: »
    I dont even know how you explain 40K to anyone outside a gaming community. What is gonna run through minds seeing this Amazon ad at the superbowl?

    Yeah so its a tabletop game originally

    Ah okay like uh Monopoly

    Well...no...like wargaming

    Oh like LARP?

    OK well anyway so its in the future and theres all these aliens

    Like Star Trek?

    Well,

    Don't explain shit to anyone. Just let them watch the movie? Smother them with a pillow if they insist on talking or asking questions, which is praxis for any movie.

  • Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    TTODewback wrote: »
    also that witcher and PBS crossover
    where they all break into song and sing
    Conjunction Junction

    >:[

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
  • TuminTumin Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FUTURE THERE IS ONLY WAR

    BUT LIKE THE FAR FUTURE NOT JUST NEXT YEAR BUT THE YEAR AFTER TOO

    Tumin on
  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    "Is he the witcher??" my mom whispers, pointing to a filthy townsperson about to be murdered by a monster, 5 seconds into episode 1 of the witcher

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    Atomika wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Ilpala wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    In effort to not stay in bed all day, I’ve scheduled my first salon appointment in nearly two years this morning, a 90-minute massage this evening, a FaceTime with MauiGirl this afternoon, and tonight I’m going to see Avatar 2 lolol no

    MaximillianDood has called it Cameron's "Princess Mononoke" and that is almost enough to make me interested.

    It’s baffling to me Cameron keeps giving all his biggest roles in this franchise to the most boring, zero-charisma actors and putting all his AAA talent in the blue fursuits

    Stephen Lang isn't boring. He's Langtastic.

    He’s okay, but he doesn’t put butts in the seats

    Lang is p great.

    If he was cast as Cable instead of Brolin we'd be seeing him doing a lot more high profile shit.

    jungleroomx on
  • TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    "Is he the witcher??" my mom whispers, pointing to a filthy townsperson about to be murdered by a monster, 5 seconds into episode 1 of the witcher

    he was the witcher
    now we get a new one

    Bless your heart.
  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    40k gives you instant access to amazing action scenes. Perhaps the the #1 40k does well is look cool, the Space Gothic Horror look, the big armors, easily identified factions and big burly men being blasted by bombs booming and surviving due to power armor.
    What it doesn't do at all is get you an easy way into its lore. 40K lore is (some would say on purpose) very stupid. And it's also stale on purpose. They took 15 years of writing 40 books to get to a scene everyone already knew the outcome of.
    And it has very few likeable protagonist. The only things that resonated are either the downtrodden or the outsiders, the rogue inquisitors.

    Steam: SanderJK Origin: SanderJK
  • Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    and that filthy townsperson?

    Liam Hemsworth

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
  • PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
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    Spoilered for my new phone taking huge screenshots.

    Peccavi on
  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    wait

    I just looked at Cavill's IG

    It just says "Warhammer" and the crest looks like Fantasy Warhammer (not that I'd know) not 40K

  • A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/Him MississippiRegistered User regular
    Starship Troopers is also a large portion of 40k IIRC

    Switch Friend Code: SW-3011-6091-2364
  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    wait

    I just looked at Cavill's IG

    It just says "Warhammer" and the crest looks like Fantasy Warhammer (not that I'd know) not 40K

    *flips table*

    *dies under pile of minis*

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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