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The 118th United States [Congress] Our long national nightmare comes to a beginning

monikermoniker Registered User regular
edited April 2023 in Debate and/or Discourse
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In Congress:

New Year, New Congress. The results of the 2022 Midterm Elections are being sworn in and are currently as follows:

United States Senate:
48(D) - 3(I) - 49(R)
The Democratic Coalition has gained one seat to have an actual majority, rather than an even split with a power sharing agreement under Vice President Kamala Harris. Resulting in somewhat more authority throughout committees, to which they have full control over the gavels, and for Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY)

United States House of Representatives:
212(D) - 222(R) - 1(Vacant | Democratic member passed away due to Cancer)
The Republican Conference won the Majority and so has a sufficient number of votes to elect a Speaker, provided they can all agree on one due to having a single digit majority (5 flipped vote margin 10 [9 after the likely upcoming special election] abstention margin) The presumptive Speaker, Kevin McCarthy (R-CA-23), is going to struggle with a fractious Conference with minimal margin for error and has demonstrated he is not in any way good at that.

That's quite a government you've got there. What do you call it?
The 118th Congress!

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I am prepared for this to become the congressional version of the Social Media thread, where we marvel at the deranged antics of crazy people and laugh nervously.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    I'm not sure we'll have a Speaker by the end of tomorrow, which is crazy to me.

  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    I'm not sure we'll have a Speaker by the end of tomorrow, which is crazy to me.

    I'm not sure we will have a Speaker by Valentines Day which is grimly hilarious to me.

  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    At least the 117th passed a damn budget so we don't have to worry about that until October.

    They fucked up the debt ceiling though so budget fireworks in ~ July.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    If McCarthy does somehow get the votes while allowing any individual congressperson to VONC him, somebody get a live feed on a lettuce

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    If McCarthy does somehow get the votes while allowing any individual congressperson to VONC him, somebody get a live feed on a lettuce

    Speaker needs a majority of Members seated (218) not a majority of Members present (50%+1) or plurality. A vote of 217-5-212 means there is not a Speaker agreed to and it goes to another round of voting. He presently does not have 218 pledged supporters. Though that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have the votes.

    Conservatives in Chaos

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    got mah popcorn ready

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I am prepared for this to become the congressional version of the Social Media thread, where we marvel at the deranged antics of crazy people and laugh nervously.

    That's what I expect, but I'm not certain I'm prepared for it.

  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    Assuming I'm remembering my congressional procedures correctly, can a discharge petition still get a vote in on something or is everything in the house blocked up until they manage to vote on a speaker?

    It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing... And take away its pain.
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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    If McCarthy does somehow get the votes while allowing any individual congressperson to VONC him, somebody get a live feed on a lettuce

    Speaker needs a majority of Members seated (218) not a majority of Members present (50%+1) or plurality. A vote of 217-5-212 means there is not a Speaker agreed to and it goes to another round of voting. He presently does not have 218 pledged supporters. Though that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have the votes.

    Conservatives in Chaos

    This will be bad... for Obama

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    are boebert and mtg still beefing

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    McCarthy moved his shit into the speaker's office today, so it'd be fucking hilarious if he had to take it back out.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    are boebert and mtg still beefing

    No one has really said anything during the recess, so I think tomorrow is the big day

  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    Anyway, in a sane world, this is where a moderate Republican would go to the Democrats and say "look, I'll let you guys vote on one thing every three months if you just let me be in charge, because the lunatics in my caucus are lunatics."

    Except that Republicans are 99.9% lunatics, and I'm pretty certain the .1% that aren't were all primaried away. So now it's just a fight between nihilistic assholes who want to burn the government to the ground, and nihilistic assholes who want to pillage THEN burn.

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  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    McCarthy moved his shit into the speaker's office today, so it'd be fucking hilarious if he had to take it back out.
    Who gets what office politics are fantastic at that level. Everyone has an ego.

  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    McCarthy moved his shit into the speaker's office today, so it'd be fucking hilarious if he had to take it back out.
    Who gets what office politics are fantastic at that level. Everyone has an ego.

    Walking around the Cannon office building, the oldest of all of them, it was incredibly obvious that it was for freshmen congress people. I'd take my current 100+ year old office over their 100+ year old office. At least I get a kitchenette and there are more bathrooms per person.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    McCarthy moved his shit into the speaker's office today, so it'd be fucking hilarious if he had to take it back out.
    Who gets what office politics are fantastic at that level. Everyone has an ego.

    Walking around the Cannon office building, the oldest of all of them, it was incredibly obvious that it was for freshmen congress people. I'd take my current 100+ year old office over their 100+ year old office. At least I get a kitchenette and there are more bathrooms per person.

    especially if you're one of those congress people who's primary home is in a major metropolitan area and having to maintain a second dc home is prohibitively expensive so you sleep in your office sometimes

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    McCarthy will get the Speaker position but he's going to have to compromise a ton to make it happen and the blood will be in the water. He won't have a lot of power and will end up either getting pushed out or leaving.

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  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    Anyway, in a sane world, this is where a moderate Republican would go to the Democrats and say "look, I'll let you guys vote on one thing every three months if you just let me be in charge, because the lunatics in my caucus are lunatics."

    Except that Republicans are 99.9% lunatics, and I'm pretty certain the .1% that aren't were all primaried away. So now it's just a fight between nihilistic assholes who want to burn the government to the ground, and nihilistic assholes who want to pillage THEN burn.

    The main problem with that, is that they're essentially resigning from Congress or switching parties at that point.

    Any Republican that did that would absolutely be vilified by conservative media, and be primary challenged, be drummed out of the party (and the accompanying post-retirement gravy train), and almost certainly get death threats.

    Don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever.

    Because, yes, the Republicans at this point ARE a criminal enterprise, they're just not an organized one.

    In other news, looks like Santos is finding out being in the public eye brings even more scrutiny.
    https://www.9news.com.au/world/george-santos-brazil-criminal-case-reopened-cheque-fraud-congressman-serial-liar-washington-kevin-mccarthy/d322fbf5-af0b-4f9e-9971-dcdb186ae046

    Fuckers never learn. Trump would have gotten away with all his financial shittery if he hadn't become President.
    Honestly a RealPolitik thing to do is have a group of safe Dems vote for a McCarthy to make it look like they made a deal.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    The vote(s) are happening today. How embarrassed will McCarthy be by the end of the day? Will he have to wear a full body gimp suit on the floor of the House, or will he be required to allow a Freedom Caucus member to have a grip on his balls at all times? Stay tuned!

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Biggs was nominated to tepid applause, it’s looking more and more like McCarthy is going to fall short on the first ballot

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Lol Boebert voted for Jordan

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    McCarthy has officially lost the first ballot

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2023
    First time in 100 years, I think?

    E: Going to 2nd ballot, that is.

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  • Snake GandhiSnake Gandhi Des Moines, IARegistered User regular
    McCarthy has officially lost the first ballot

    This is a rare moment when I will quote the prophet Violent J.
    Violent J wrote:
    "Ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha, fuck you."

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited January 2023
    Biggs was nominated to tepid applause, it’s looking more and more like McCarthy is going to fall short on the first ballot

    Biggs of “gave an unorthodox and suspicious surveillance triptour to an insurrectionist on Jan 5” infamy no less

    Edit: wait no that was Scott Perry, Biggs was just another frothing dipshit in all this

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    (Abby Phillip of CNN)
    Wow: McCarthy just now said last night he faced demands from the holdout members for "certain members with certain positions and certain gavels. ...Matt Gaetz said I don't care if we go to plurality and we elect Hakeem Jeffries."

    Don't you threaten me with a good time.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    I don’t think McCarthy takes that threat remotely seriously

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    These people are so, so, so stupid. Like once you think you have a handle on just how dumb they are, they show you that you were just scratching the surface of their stupidity.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    It’s almost like the Republicans aren’t a functioning conference

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    It’s almost like the Republicans aren’t a functioning conference

    And obnoxiously so our media just blatantly ignores that. Like these people literally want the government to do nothing. They work in the thing they don't want doing anything, that's fucking insane. I mean its like the mariners front office of government!

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    All I want is a year of Republicans in disarray headlines.

    It will never happen but at least this is off to a good start.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    All I want is a year of Republicans in disarray headlines.

    It will never happen but at least this is off to a good start.

    I'd like a fucking day of it, but I'm sure we'll get a generic "congress in dissarray as democrats don't help McCarthy."

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular


    Your 19 vipers. (National Journal reporter)

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    All I want is a year of Republicans in disarray headlines.

    It will never happen but at least this is off to a good start.

    I'd like a fucking day of it, but I'm sure we'll get a generic "congress in dissarray as democrats don't help McCarthy."

    Democrats in crisis as many refuse to support McCarthys plan for American Prosperity, confused messaging from the left indicates that they do not believe Americans should be rich, and demand higher taxes on your grandmother. Without the support from Democrats which Republicans are due, McCarthy has been the subject of an immoral insurrection which has prevented him from assuming his ordained seat as speaker. As the crisis continues, More than 210 Democrats still refuse to accept his ascension, while more than 210 Republicans support honoring the results of those elections they agree with.

    "Certain elections have consequences!" frothed McCarthy, wielding a bat with a rusty nail in it as he chased this reporter through a dark wood after threatening to kill my family, "WHY DO THE DEMOCRATS REFUSE TO OBEY ME!".

    Despite this forceful leadership, Democrats still demand their say.

    In other news, Republicans show Bi-Partisan spirit and embrace the true meaning of Democracy in a spirited defence of the individualist principles they were elected on. Refusing to simply rubber stamp Nancy Pelosi's successor in congress. Nancy Pelosi, a Woke Liberal from California, is the leader of the defeated and demoralized Democrats and held some roles in the House for a time. These Republicans, who call themselves "Noble and Glorious Men, each a rugged and handsome defender of the constitution" demand proper accountability from Speaker Pelosi's successor in order to defend the American people. Some called Nancy Pelosi an uncaring and despicable traitor, and Democrats could never fully disprove those claims.

    "That is cool" - Abraham Lincoln
  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular


    Your 19 vipers. (National Journal reporter)

    Ain’t that a fucking list

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  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    Hey Kevin, the devil called, he was wondering how that deal was working out.

  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    The amazing part is that after negotiating, McCarthy apparently widened the gap from like 8 defectors to almost 20.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    The amazing part is that after negotiating, McCarthy apparently widened the gap from like 8 defectors to almost 20.

    Greene isn't on the list but Boebert is, makes me wonder what that deal with her cost him with the rest

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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