I just don't see Surfer anywhere near as often as Patriot. Also I lost to a guy doing the same deck as me but he smartly played Ultron when I went with Onslaught and it wasn't enough to make up the diff with cards I had on the board.
I feel like I can only crawl upwards with Patriot but I make dumb plays and stick around for games I think have won and then they pull some wacky looney toons moves and steal the win, but that's life
Q: What’s the percentage of players that reach rank 100 each season and are you satisfied with that number?
A: Stephen “The amount of players reaching infinite is lower than we want right now. We are always iterating and ranked mode is an area we will continue to improve over time”
i actually quite like having gambit in my surfer deck since i'm only halfway through pool 3, i often don't wind up playing him but it's not like i had a better 3 drop, and it does let me have the occasional turn where it's like "oh this is basically all great for gambit and locks the win"
i'm sure i'd replace him if i pulled a better option like rogue but i ain't there yet!
Q: What’s the percentage of players that reach rank 100 each season and are you satisfied with that number?
A: Stephen “The amount of players reaching infinite is lower than we want right now. We are always iterating and ranked mode is an area we will continue to improve over time”
Huh
That's what I expected honestly.
Since they decreased the level you needed to get to get the variants from 70 to 60.
i actually quite like having gambit in my surfer deck since i'm only halfway through pool 3, i often don't wind up playing him but it's not like i had a better 3 drop, and it does let me have the occasional turn where it's like "oh this is basically all great for gambit and locks the win"
i'm sure i'd replace him if i pulled a better option like rogue but i ain't there yet!
You haven't lived until you've Odin-Wong'd Gambit and taken out your opponents entire board. It is the most satisfying way to win a game I know of. Especially vs. Hela decks, it's like a shooting gallery.
i actually quite like having gambit in my surfer deck since i'm only halfway through pool 3, i often don't wind up playing him but it's not like i had a better 3 drop, and it does let me have the occasional turn where it's like "oh this is basically all great for gambit and locks the win"
i'm sure i'd replace him if i pulled a better option like rogue but i ain't there yet!
You haven't lived until you've Odin-Wong'd Gambit and taken out your opponents entire board. It is the most satisfying way to win a game I know of. Especially vs. Hela decks, it's like a shooting gallery.
Bridge and this dumb quake deck has been the most fun I've had in this game for a while:
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Just, pinwheel of death.
I'm yet to see a prof X lockdown the bridge and then get it yoinked out T6, but I have to assume that's hilarious too.
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Q: What’s the percentage of players that reach rank 100 each season and are you satisfied with that number?
A: Stephen “The amount of players reaching infinite is lower than we want right now. We are always iterating and ranked mode is an area we will continue to improve over time”
Huh
Just give me the cubes for doing the snap instead of the 1 they get from retreating.
Give me 2 cubes for snapping and forcing someone to concede, boom too many infinites.
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I snapped because I dropped Shuri onto Sinister London and the guy waited to see what I played before conceding and I wanted to just be like...what possible double doubled card could I drop onto Sinister London that was going to work out for you?
Q: What’s the percentage of players that reach rank 100 each season and are you satisfied with that number?
A: Stephen “The amount of players reaching infinite is lower than we want right now. We are always iterating and ranked mode is an area we will continue to improve over time”
Huh
Just give me the cubes for doing the snap instead of the 1 they get from retreating.
Give me 2 cubes for snapping and forcing someone to concede, boom too many infinites.
Or, they could stop putting me up against people with rank 100 titles, avatars and card backs.
.. not sure when I started seeing the level 80 avatar from this season.
Not sure at what level it would be sporting to match. Probably 70s honestly.
Haven't seen the rank 100 title though, so maybe these previous rank 100s are having as much trouble climbing as I am.
Q: What’s the percentage of players that reach rank 100 each season and are you satisfied with that number?
A: Stephen “The amount of players reaching infinite is lower than we want right now. We are always iterating and ranked mode is an area we will continue to improve over time”
Huh
Just give me the cubes for doing the snap instead of the 1 they get from retreating.
Give me 2 cubes for snapping and forcing someone to concede, boom too many infinites.
Or, they could stop putting me up against people with rank 100 titles, avatars and card backs.
.. not sure when I started seeing the level 80 avatar from this season.
Not sure at what level it would be sporting to match. Probably 70s honestly.
Haven't seen the rank 100 title though, so maybe these previous rank 100s are having as much trouble climbing as I am.
There are probably exceedingly few people with that title right now.
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That Captain Marvel variant is so fucking awful holy shit burn it down.
Like the rest of those are not awful (although what the fuck is happening with Kraven's face?) but they made Carol Danvers look like some old crone in a point and click adventure game where you had to enter a code to play by typing the eighth word on the third page to make sure you didn't just copy the floppy disks and give them to a friend.
Q: What’s the percentage of players that reach rank 100 each season and are you satisfied with that number?
A: Stephen “The amount of players reaching infinite is lower than we want right now. We are always iterating and ranked mode is an area we will continue to improve over time”
Huh
Just give me the cubes for doing the snap instead of the 1 they get from retreating.
Give me 2 cubes for snapping and forcing someone to concede, boom too many infinites.
Or, they could stop putting me up against people with rank 100 titles, avatars and card backs.
.. not sure when I started seeing the level 80 avatar from this season.
Not sure at what level it would be sporting to match. Probably 70s honestly.
Haven't seen the rank 100 title though, so maybe these previous rank 100s are having as much trouble climbing as I am.
There are probably exceedingly few people with that title right now.
...
I can't square that with the number of Heralds I started seeing when the season reset honestly.
Made some good gains using Jubilee deck with Lockjaw subbed in as suggested, clawed up to 57 before tumbling down a bit and deciding to stop before i fell too far. But some good matches tonight, sometimes I just can't math good enough (or just plain guess their hand wrong) but other times I sweep all 3 lanes and I'm like, I'm not stupid after all
Starting to get the feeling that there are bots out there that play good lines.
Playing against a 'Rickdee' with basic avatar.
Plays a competent Swarm discard deck.
Floods the board T6 after snapping, but not into bridge.
Doesn't react when Quake flips the board and wins the game, nor to emotes.
Which..
Bots playing good lines would probably be a net drain on cubes, making less people able to climb to infinite.
i actually quite like having gambit in my surfer deck since i'm only halfway through pool 3, i often don't wind up playing him but it's not like i had a better 3 drop, and it does let me have the occasional turn where it's like "oh this is basically all great for gambit and locks the win"
i'm sure i'd replace him if i pulled a better option like rogue but i ain't there yet!
You haven't lived until you've Odin-Wong'd Gambit and taken out your opponents entire board. It is the most satisfying way to win a game I know of. Especially vs. Hela decks, it's like a shooting gallery.
Q: What’s the percentage of players that reach rank 100 each season and are you satisfied with that number?
A: Stephen “The amount of players reaching infinite is lower than we want right now. We are always iterating and ranked mode is an area we will continue to improve over time”
Huh
Just give me the cubes for doing the snap instead of the 1 they get from retreating.
Give me 2 cubes for snapping and forcing someone to concede, boom too many infinites.
Or, they could stop putting me up against people with rank 100 titles, avatars and card backs.
.. not sure when I started seeing the level 80 avatar from this season.
Not sure at what level it would be sporting to match. Probably 70s honestly.
Haven't seen the rank 100 title though, so maybe these previous rank 100s are having as much trouble climbing as I am.
There are probably exceedingly few people with that title right now.
...
I can't square that with the number of Heralds I started seeing when the season reset honestly.
Yes, end of season is different than middle though. I'm going to guess less than half the people who are going to hit infinite this season have done so at this point.
We're three weeks in though.
Last season was only four I thought.
..
Like my experience last season, and most of this season, is getting stuck at like level 70.
Just climb that high and no higher.
Possibly cause of deck quality or skill or both.
But unless there's an endless parade of people moving past me, then I'd say most people are experiencing the same thing.
Which is what you'd expect in a zero-sum cube game.
As it's not zero-sum, due only to bots, you'd expect the median of everyone's rank to slowly rise due to the cube input.
What might be happening though is that all the cubes are going to Galactus/Knull players.
But still, I'm not certain all that much movement is occurring.
I'm steadily getting better at the game but as that happens I'm running into people pulling off some insane plays. I keep inching towards 60 only to get greedy and lose a bad 8 cube bet. But that's the game and I don't mind it too much. I'm still having a lot of fun trying new decks and seeing what they can do.
We're three weeks in though.
Last season was only four I thought.
..
Like my experience last season, and most of this season, is getting stuck at like level 70.
Just climb that high and no higher.
Possibly cause of deck quality or skill or both.
But unless there's an endless parade of people moving past me, then I'd say most people are experiencing the same thing.
Which is what you'd expect in a zero-sum cube game.
As it's not zero-sum, due only to bots, you'd expect the median of everyone's rank to slowly rise due to the cube input.
What might be happening though is that all the cubes are going to Galactus/Knull players.
But still, I'm not certain all that much movement is occurring.
You're correct that we're over halfway, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that 50% of all infinite players do so in the last week for a couple reasons. My guess is that more people will also be infinite this season than last season due to the extra week.
One, as you said cubes are inflationary due to bots, but they're also inflationary due to infinite players not giving a fuck. They can play jankier decks, snap for sillier reasons, and overall not have to care, I've seen post infinite Hoogland just automatically retreat on weird world or district x for example. As more players reach infinite, you have more players not caring and effectively donating cubes.
Another reason cubes are inflationary is rank up. Every time you hit a new reward they automatically make you X1.0, so 81.0 for example. If you ranked up gaining one cube on an enemy retreat that added ten cubes into the system.
Also, I'm also going to assume a lot of players probably play less after being infinite. They don't have anything to play for so they might just do missions and bail. This is partially from my own experience but I have seen infinite players on Reddit complain about a lack of reward/reason to play. This means you're removing better players from the matchmaking pool, or at least they're not there as often.
Lastly, I'm going to guess playtime dramatically increases for non infinite players at the end of the season as they have something to play for. If you were just quietly grinding cubes and find yourself at 85 in the last week, you may attempt to make a playoff push for the end. Those players destined for infinite are also probably trying their absolute hardest now whereas before it's fine, you have time. More players, more games, more bots, more rank up inflation, more infinite players.
Overall my guess is the graph of the rate of players hitting infinite has a sharp spike in the first week as the streamers and really great players quickly crush their opponents in a race to the top, it craters and then has more of an exponential curve than a linear one.
So are 5-week seasons gonna be the new thing? I think I like it better.
It's not a new standard. They want 12 seasons a year (one a month), some of them will have to be 5 as lots of months are more than 28 days (exactly 4 weeks) long.
So are 5-week seasons gonna be the new thing? I think I like it better.
It's not a new standard. They want 12 seasons a year (one a month), some of them will have to be 5 as lots of months are more than 28 days (exactly 4 weeks) long.
Ah, 8 4-week seasons and 4 5’s then, I guess.
Figures that they’d want to keep that $10 x N coming in each month.
Edited for math.
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Galactus can be so well hidden, and with the surprise factor of ladder, it feels like a Cube printer. Of course, that's only from playing against him, so I'm probably biased.
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Galactus can be so well hidden, and the surprise factor of ladder, that it feels like a Cube printer. Of course, that's only from playing against him, so I'm probably biased.
Uh I disagree Galactus is pretty fuckin telegraphed 99% of the time. He's got to be one of the lowest cubes per game deck archetypes.
Galactus can be so well hidden, and the surprise factor of ladder, that it feels like a Cube printer. Of course, that's only from playing against him, so I'm probably biased.
Uh I disagree Galactus is pretty fuckin telegraphed 99% of the time. He's got to be one of the lowest cubes per game deck archetypes.
Eeeeh, Galactus plays like any other ramp deck except that an opponent might snap on the Wave play, and for whatever reason 90% of the Galactus decks I play against don't. If they don't snap, it's a possibility but not super telegraphed, but they also get one cube so it still winds up being a low cube per game archetype.
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Galactus can be so well hidden, and the surprise factor of ladder, that it feels like a Cube printer. Of course, that's only from playing against him, so I'm probably biased.
Uh I disagree Galactus is pretty fuckin telegraphed 99% of the time. He's got to be one of the lowest cubes per game deck archetypes.
Eeeeh, Galactus plays like any other ramp deck except that an opponent might snap on the Wave play, and for whatever reason 90% of the Galactus decks I play against don't. If they don't snap, it's a possibility but not super telegraphed, but they also get one cube so it still winds up being a low cube per game archetype.
Yeah half the time they don't snap so you just leave. If they snap on turn 3 wave you also just leave. Even against ramp decks you can usually find other clues like "hey he just played Doctor Octopus on 4." At BEST Galactus should be a two cube win 90% of the time because they snap correctly, you look at your hand "can I beat the variety of Galactus tricks?" and then you just leave before 6 after they Spider-Man you on 5 or whatever. I can't imagine Galactus is regularly gaining four or god forbid 8 cubes.
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I keep losing cubes to decks that make absolutely no sense
Like I just lost 4 cubes to a dude who played Zabu on right, then Shuri on left, then Black Panther on left
He snaps. I stay in because I've got priority and Shang-Chi to take care of Black Panther and Death to go on right in case he decides to Taskmaster.
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But my wolverine was bigger than his wolverine.
At least that's one of the better ones!
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i'm sure i'd replace him if i pulled a better option like rogue but i ain't there yet!
That's what I expected honestly.
Since they decreased the level you needed to get to get the variants from 70 to 60.
And spoiler for big numbers:
How it ended:
My quake got pulled onto the bridge by Doc Ock
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Just, pinwheel of death.
I'm yet to see a prof X lockdown the bridge and then get it yoinked out T6, but I have to assume that's hilarious too.
No-one expects Quake.
... Still getting bots in the 70s though.
Usually.
Just give me the cubes for doing the snap instead of the 1 they get from retreating.
Give me 2 cubes for snapping and forcing someone to concede, boom too many infinites.
This match made me laugh
They waited for my last card to flip left lane before bidding me a sweet farewell
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Or, they could stop putting me up against people with rank 100 titles, avatars and card backs.
.. not sure when I started seeing the level 80 avatar from this season.
Not sure at what level it would be sporting to match. Probably 70s honestly.
Haven't seen the rank 100 title though, so maybe these previous rank 100s are having as much trouble climbing as I am.
There are probably exceedingly few people with that title right now.
Like is it even possible
just simply don't have rocks in your deck, it's very easy
trying out the rare "cerebro 0" build
Like morph has a 100% win rate against me because it will 100% of the time become the best card in my hand that blows me out entirely
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Like the rest of those are not awful (although what the fuck is happening with Kraven's face?) but they made Carol Danvers look like some old crone in a point and click adventure game where you had to enter a code to play by typing the eighth word on the third page to make sure you didn't just copy the floppy disks and give them to a friend.
this token system is wack
Streaming 8PST on weeknights
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I can't square that with the number of Heralds I started seeing when the season reset honestly.
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Playing against a 'Rickdee' with basic avatar.
Plays a competent Swarm discard deck.
Floods the board T6 after snapping, but not into bridge.
Doesn't react when Quake flips the board and wins the game, nor to emotes.
Which..
Bots playing good lines would probably be a net drain on cubes, making less people able to climb to infinite.
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Yes, end of season is different than middle though. I'm going to guess less than half the people who are going to hit infinite this season have done so at this point.
Last season was only four I thought.
..
Like my experience last season, and most of this season, is getting stuck at like level 70.
Just climb that high and no higher.
Possibly cause of deck quality or skill or both.
But unless there's an endless parade of people moving past me, then I'd say most people are experiencing the same thing.
Which is what you'd expect in a zero-sum cube game.
As it's not zero-sum, due only to bots, you'd expect the median of everyone's rank to slowly rise due to the cube input.
What might be happening though is that all the cubes are going to Galactus/Knull players.
But still, I'm not certain all that much movement is occurring.
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You're correct that we're over halfway, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that 50% of all infinite players do so in the last week for a couple reasons. My guess is that more people will also be infinite this season than last season due to the extra week.
One, as you said cubes are inflationary due to bots, but they're also inflationary due to infinite players not giving a fuck. They can play jankier decks, snap for sillier reasons, and overall not have to care, I've seen post infinite Hoogland just automatically retreat on weird world or district x for example. As more players reach infinite, you have more players not caring and effectively donating cubes.
Another reason cubes are inflationary is rank up. Every time you hit a new reward they automatically make you X1.0, so 81.0 for example. If you ranked up gaining one cube on an enemy retreat that added ten cubes into the system.
Also, I'm also going to assume a lot of players probably play less after being infinite. They don't have anything to play for so they might just do missions and bail. This is partially from my own experience but I have seen infinite players on Reddit complain about a lack of reward/reason to play. This means you're removing better players from the matchmaking pool, or at least they're not there as often.
Lastly, I'm going to guess playtime dramatically increases for non infinite players at the end of the season as they have something to play for. If you were just quietly grinding cubes and find yourself at 85 in the last week, you may attempt to make a playoff push for the end. Those players destined for infinite are also probably trying their absolute hardest now whereas before it's fine, you have time. More players, more games, more bots, more rank up inflation, more infinite players.
Overall my guess is the graph of the rate of players hitting infinite has a sharp spike in the first week as the streamers and really great players quickly crush their opponents in a race to the top, it craters and then has more of an exponential curve than a linear one.
It's not a new standard. They want 12 seasons a year (one a month), some of them will have to be 5 as lots of months are more than 28 days (exactly 4 weeks) long.
Ah, 8 4-week seasons and 4 5’s then, I guess.
Figures that they’d want to keep that $10 x N coming in each month.
Edited for math.
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Uh I disagree Galactus is pretty fuckin telegraphed 99% of the time. He's got to be one of the lowest cubes per game deck archetypes.
Eeeeh, Galactus plays like any other ramp deck except that an opponent might snap on the Wave play, and for whatever reason 90% of the Galactus decks I play against don't. If they don't snap, it's a possibility but not super telegraphed, but they also get one cube so it still winds up being a low cube per game archetype.
Yeah half the time they don't snap so you just leave. If they snap on turn 3 wave you also just leave. Even against ramp decks you can usually find other clues like "hey he just played Doctor Octopus on 4." At BEST Galactus should be a two cube win 90% of the time because they snap correctly, you look at your hand "can I beat the variety of Galactus tricks?" and then you just leave before 6 after they Spider-Man you on 5 or whatever. I can't imagine Galactus is regularly gaining four or god forbid 8 cubes.
Like I just lost 4 cubes to a dude who played Zabu on right, then Shuri on left, then Black Panther on left
He snaps. I stay in because I've got priority and Shang-Chi to take care of Black Panther and Death to go on right in case he decides to Taskmaster.
He plays Galactus mid on the bridge and I lose.
What the actual hell kind of deck is that?!
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