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  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    I'm still confused as to the language "complete the pattern", or what you're supposed to do even after recognizing the pattern

    this is an online app she accesses through a tablet, but there's not any way to interact with the grid presented. Some of the other puzzles have multiple choice buttons or a text field for their input.

    we get the answer key at the end of the week and I'm really interested to see what the answer for this one will be

    I've heard multiple weird problems like this thirdhand via my wife talking to the day care teachers talking about their K or 1st grade kids math homework. Some workbook with an utterly bizarre problem that doesn't appear to make much sense, like "10000, 13000, 20000, 27000, 30000, 40000: what digit's place is used to continue the multiplication pattern" or something. I never know if they're actually insane or being miscommunicated badly because I can't exactly ask for a screenshot of the problem...

    I ate an engineer
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Maybe the grid is a red herring

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited September 26
    Maybe just write 1 - 100 in there?

    There's an animated version of this over at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_of_Eratosthenes , although it's only looking at prime factors and also only looking at prime factors that are less than the square root of the largest number (so no twelve pattern for two reasons for instance).
    It's also not filling in the colours for larger factors some of the time if the square is already coloured.

    discrider on
  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Maybe just write 1 - 100 in there?

    There's an animated version of this over at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_of_Eratosthenes , although it's only looking at prime factors and also only looking at prime factors that are less than the square root of the largest number (so no eight pattern for two reasons for instance).
    It's also not filling in the colours for larger factors some if the time if the square is already coloured.

    I guess an arguable continuation for Brolo's problem would be coloring all multiples of 10 (overriding the existing color), then coloring all multiples of 11, etc?

    I ate an engineer
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited September 25
    It's probably just 'list the prime numbers' honestly (the numbers in the white squares... And 2, 3, 5 and 7..).

    If it's not just 'fill in all the numbers 1 - 100'.

    I wouldn't be adding more colour for more factors.. it would just get messy.
    If you were to add more factors, I'd probably overlay symbols on the squares, but even that would interfere with any numbers on the squares.

    discrider on
  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    I'm still confused as to the language "complete the pattern", or what you're supposed to do even after recognizing the pattern

    this is an online app she accesses through a tablet, but there's not any way to interact with the grid presented. Some of the other puzzles have multiple choice buttons or a text field for their input.

    we get the answer key at the end of the week and I'm really interested to see what the answer for this one will be

    Please post the answer when you get it. I'm getting more angry thinking about this.

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    It's gotta be in there by mistake right? Like it's a bundle of puzzles and they all just got thrown in together and no one actually looked at them all.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    I'm still confused as to the language "complete the pattern", or what you're supposed to do even after recognizing the pattern

    this is an online app she accesses through a tablet, but there's not any way to interact with the grid presented. Some of the other puzzles have multiple choice buttons or a text field for their input.

    Wait.. how are you supposed to submit an answer into this then?

  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    That grid is the kind of thing we'd randomly get in the bottom of the schoolbag, folded in half and mashed down a bit by his water bottle. My other half and I would stare at it for a few minutes wondering why he's been sent home with something entirely incomprehensible and meant for a much older / younger child and when he eventually comes back downstairs and we ask him about it he'll turn the page over and show us the doodle of a pirate ship he put on the back.

    Apparently on wet breaks / lunches they just pass out old worksheets for the kids to draw on the back of.

    The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin
  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    That grid is the kind of thing we'd randomly get in the bottom of the schoolbag, folded in half and mashed down a bit by his water bottle. My other half and I would stare at it for a few minutes wondering why he's been sent home with something entirely incomprehensible and meant for a much older / younger child and when he eventually comes back downstairs and we ask him about it he'll turn the page over and show us the doodle of a pirate ship he put on the back.

    Apparently on wet breaks / lunches they just pass out old worksheets for the kids to draw on the back of.

    I always got my dad's structural calculations he had printed single sided to check over for his job. Just whole piles of printer paper with lists of numbers and then my doodles on the other side.

  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Aldo wrote: »
    That grid is the kind of thing we'd randomly get in the bottom of the schoolbag, folded in half and mashed down a bit by his water bottle. My other half and I would stare at it for a few minutes wondering why he's been sent home with something entirely incomprehensible and meant for a much older / younger child and when he eventually comes back downstairs and we ask him about it he'll turn the page over and show us the doodle of a pirate ship he put on the back.

    Apparently on wet breaks / lunches they just pass out old worksheets for the kids to draw on the back of.

    I always got my dad's structural calculations he had printed single sided to check over for his job. Just whole piles of printer paper with lists of numbers and then my doodles on the other side.

    My dad brought home a massive ream of dot-matrix printer paper in the early 90s when someone had run a test print without first double-checking their code. It was the continuous-feed type that comes perforated so you tear off once the print is done but because it was a mistake it got fed into the machine, had a few characters randomly printed on it and then folded up neatly on the other side. I think it equated to an entire box of paper so around 2000 sheets rendered useless.

    It's still in use today at their house but after 30-odd years their supply is starting to dwindle.

    The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin
  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    My kid when interacting with a neighbor:

    ‘Hello, sir could you please open the door for me?’

    My kid with me:

    ‘Mommy, I’m thirsty, get me a drink.’

    So when the neighbors in my building talk about how nice and polite she is when I’m not around, I’m proud…. And perplexed.

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited September 27
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Brolo wrote: »
    I'm still confused as to the language "complete the pattern", or what you're supposed to do even after recognizing the pattern

    this is an online app she accesses through a tablet, but there's not any way to interact with the grid presented. Some of the other puzzles have multiple choice buttons or a text field for their input.

    we get the answer key at the end of the week and I'm really interested to see what the answer for this one will be

    Please post the answer when you get it. I'm getting more angry thinking about this.

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    answer key - it seems @milski and @discrider are correct!

    although there's still no method for inputting this text into the grid, but it also wasn't marked as correct or incorrect when the weeks homework got submitted

    i asked her teacher about it

    her response: "No I don't know either, I spent 20 minutes trying to figure it out and divisors fit, but I don't know how you're supposed to write the correct answer. I'll ask the support board if this was included in the wrong section, as it's definitely not part of the kindergarten curriculum."

    Brolo on
  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    My wife has been in Florida for job training since Sunday and I’m managing the 2 girls who go to separate schools 10 miles apart

    I have been incessently refreshing the Flight Aware page to make sure she actually gets home tonight, a day later than originally scheduled cause, you know, the thing

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  • sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Booger CoveRegistered User regular
    I don't know what they're doing in Canada, but here's an American five year old's homework

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  • CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    queen / bird
    car / feather
    coin / blanket
    map / [free space/wild]

    ...I was a difficult child.

  • Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    I'm so tired of croup.

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    spono wrote: »
    I don't know what they're doing in Canada, but here's an American five year old's homework

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    Quilt//Quail

    Quar//quill

    Quoin//quilt

    Quanada//Question

    I ate an engineer
  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    Qu/Qu
    --/Qu
    --/--
    --/Qu

    See the instructions at the bottom of the page :smiley:

  • sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Booger CoveRegistered User regular
    None of this homework is graded or even needs to be turned in, so I'm gonna say great job everyone

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Clearly that's a Quattro, what kid doesn't know audis

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Where does a lower case q look like that though.

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    As someone with a lower case Q in his name you all need to practice writing that particular letter.

    It is not a 'g'!

    I am in the business of saving lives.
  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited September 28
    MeqaMan001

    Captain Inertia on
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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Omfg

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    I feel like sideshow bob walking into rakes over here

    I am in the business of saving lives.
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Being a parent would be so much easier if it wasn’t for these damn kids!

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Where does a lower case q look like that though.

    Any time I write one

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I'm guessing this is a US thing then.

  • RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    Block letter qs are just a straight line down where I am in the US, but if they're prepping for cursive script you'll see them like that since it's basically just an incomplete cursive q.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Here it's more of a hard tick, I think.

    Looking at my son's handwriting sheet, he's being taught a tight rounded tail, rather than a pointed corner.

  • RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    I personally make it look like half an arrow pointing down, with a straight line coming off instead of a rounded tail

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    I feel like sideshow bob walking into rakes over here

    Raqes.

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    I'm guessing this is a US thing then.

    It's just whether you tend to add tails, which I do. I remember my first grade teacher being a real stickler for hand writing to prep us for cursive. She was very old school in mostly bad ways.

  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    What are everyone’s vibes for video games?

    I keep almost thinking Theia is getting ready and then we do something game adjacent (we played arcade games at the shopping centre) and it’s real easy to see the mood shift when she starts, just in terms of her temper and her refusal to move on when we need to finish.

    It’s also not like she needs them or anything, but it’s still something I’m thinking about.

  • PerrsunPerrsun Registered User regular
    What we ended up doing was starting him at 4 years old on stuff like Paw Patrol On A Roll, which is a basic platformer with no fail state, no enemies, no timers. Just a chance to get used to playing and understanding basic mechanics.

    We also limited it to “only on holidays” (which means it averages out to once a month) and a strict time limit when game time starts. Then I slowly introduced more game types. Now, given a choice, he’ll either happily play the same few Kirby levels over and over again, or just drive around smashing things in Forza Horizon.

    We’ve kept this up for a few years now, and built in special circumstances (e.g. we’re visiting family overseas, ok, you can game every day on the Switch since we’re visiting Aunts/Uncles that haven’t had a kid in the house for X years)

    On one hand, it feels way more restrictive than how I was raised (where I had like an hour a day limit, except in the summer) but given my wife’s upbringing (nobody in their extended family had a game system until a younger cousin got a Wii, viewed as being the absolute last priority… “if you had time to play you should be studying/practicing your instruments/studying again/reading/doing literally anything else”) it could be worse. :P

    And there are times when I’m happy we do it this way, since it’s already hard enough to have time for playing outside, homework, etc.

    When it comes to attitude, yeah, I definitely see a shift when he’s got the freedom to smash into other cars and fences and stuff, and we just *constantly* have to have conversations about pretend/game stuff and the real world. And it seems to work because we’ll be sitting in traffic and he’ll tell us “if this was force you could just bash past all these cars and go through, but in real life it would mess up the car a lot” so that gives some hope he’s getting it.

  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    I'm definitely influenced by Mike and Jerry on this. We treat gaming as a hobby and activity to do together. My partner and I both game daily, as does our 8 year old son.

    We differentiate between games that teach skills or knowledge and games that are mostly fun. It he is building stuff in Minecraft or learning about animal welfare in Alba he can usually play more than if he's just beating up people in Brawl Stars.

    My son is pretty ok with losing and he can really apply himself to improving himself to beat a challenge. He loves talking about what he does in games with me and we often play together (or I just watch him as he plays). We run a pretty tight ship re:adblocking and there is an absolute ban on Roblox (the most abusive "game" in existence and I hope the owners will face lengthy jail sentences soon), so that helps. We do often talk about how some games respect your time, while others rely on ridiculous microtransactions. He's also coming around to waiting for sales.

    I do recognize that our apartment along a busy road (16 trams, 16 buses per hour, 4 lanes of traffic) means it's just more difficult to play outside. Especially when we hit the part of the year when it's already dark around 6 we just don't have many options to do stuff outside. If we were living in a better area we would reduce his screentime and get him outside more.

  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm in a similar situation to Aldo, although with an 11 year old now who has his own PC in his room as well as access to a Deck, Switch and a little handheld thing with access to older generations. We don't live on the kind of street where he could play outside and he's not interested at all in going in the back garden because of his insect phobia, so any outdoor activity tends to be us taking the dog for a walk and swinging by a playground for a bit.

    We started pretty early on with him playing couch co-op games with me. It started with the Lego games where there's no real fail state and you're free to just run around and do your own thing if you want. Then he moved onto the switch where he had games like Yoshi's Crafted World for another easy platformer that started out as him being player two and me doing all the work and ended with him finishing the game off without me even there, more Lego games and then eventually Minecraft.

    2 years ago for Christmas we got him the Deck and he had access to my Steam library and started to branch out via me curating things, and then last year for his 10th birthday I put together a PC for him. Since then he's curated his own wishlist and bought games for himself that he's been interested in, started playing Minecraft on PC, gotten used to keyboard / mouse controls and even started playing old RTS games after recommendations from my Uncle.

    We've got a Microsoft family thing set up so I can see everything he's doing on that PC and then Google is locked down pretty tight as that ties in with the phone we let him use on long car journeys to listen to audiobooks / podcasts (Squirrel Girl Radio Show on repeat, usually), so I'm not worried about what he's up to. I get a weekly report telling me what he's done but we restrict the time he spends on it to a couple of hours a night. If I go in his room over the course of a lazy Sunday he'll be alternating between reading, playing with Lego, playing on his PC and watching TV so it's not like he just spends 7 hours on it.

    It's always been tricky because my other half only had a computer in the family room for homework, and that was introduced into the house pretty late on -- mid high school. Meanwhile I had all the old cast-offs from age 6 or so as Dad upgraded the family PC until eventually being allowed to build my own at 11. They were supposedly for homework but there's not much that a 6 year old can do on a PC with DOS / Windows 3.11 so I mostly spent my time playing Monkey Island. My whole family plays games to unwind so he goes to his Grandparents and sees my mum playing her games and obviously from a young age wanted to join in with that.

    The tricky thing has always been trying to instil the "quit getting mad about video games" ethos.

    The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin
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