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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Hey

    Did Net Neutrality ever get reinstated?

    I think it did, but it was ultimately moot since everyone was forced to follow some more restrictive stuff CA passed.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Nirya wrote: »
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Wow, I'm shocked that the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and Joe Biden endorsed the democrat, Kristen Sinema, instead of her republican opponent Martha McSally during the 2018 election.

    Shocked indeed!

    Those are endorsements during the primary, when Sinema would be running against other Democrats.

    The party apparatus chose her over other candidates.

    Only one person ran against her. And that one candidate that got 20% of the vote in the primary against sinema, went on two years later to get crushed by a republican for a city board position 60 to 40%

    So I guess you could say she's on the rise?

    Seems like a pretty bad system of finding/cultivating candidates if a given place has two options and they both suck

    Unless the implication is that an area apparently and demonstrably willing to vote blue was so ignored/neglected by the Dem party that the only possible candidates were two options who suck

    But anyway I'm sure that once again the Democratic party made no mistakes and this is the fault of the whims of fate that keep granting the party that gosh darned Plausible Deniability for doing anything beyond slowing a decline. Darn it!!!

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    They endorsed her. They causcus with her. She's a democrat. Its a big tent and she represents a crucial dem tentpole, irredeemable ladder climbers.

    See, I woulda pegged her for simple sycophant.

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Hey

    Did Net Neutrality ever get reinstated?

    I think it did, but it was ultimately moot since everyone was forced to follow some more restrictive stuff CA passed.

    I feel so blessed by CA's "opt out of tracking cookies" mandate that it has made me truly and non-ironically question where I stand on Net Neutrality.

    I don't know where I stand now, my opinions are inchoate, I'm not a lawyer and I'm a big dumb idiot. But goddamn does ad tracking give me the "cyberpunk WARNED US ABOUT THIS" heebie-jeebies, I am actually very glad that corporations have to ask me if they can study me and gain my consent before they do so

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    They endorsed her. They causcus with her. She's a democrat. Its a big tent and she represents a crucial dem tentpole, irredeemable ladder climbers.

    See, I woulda pegged her for simple sycophant.

    Sycophant would imply that there is someone recognized as higher than her in Sinema’s own internal mental hierarchy

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    i hate when i agree with someone as crap as gorsuch because it makes me feel like maybe i’m wrong by association. but it sure doesn’t seem like these companies should get section 230 protections either way for ai generated content.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Lanz wrote: »
    They endorsed her. They causcus with her. She's a democrat. Its a big tent and she represents a crucial dem tentpole, irredeemable ladder climbers.

    See, I woulda pegged her for simple sycophant.

    Sycophant would imply that there is someone recognized as higher than her in Sinema’s own internal mental hierarchy

    The donors that she bases her entire whims upon.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    edited February 22
    Knight_ wrote: »
    i hate when i agree with someone as crap as gorsuch because it makes me feel like maybe i’m wrong by association. but it sure doesn’t seem like these companies should get section 230 protections either way for ai generated content.

    Maybe they should if it was actual AI, sure.

    But what exists now is not AI. It’s smoke and mirrors with some clever algorithms.

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    If the court would rule that nobody's allowed to call anything AI that isn't, I'd be all for that.

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    i hate when i agree with someone as crap as gorsuch because it makes me feel like maybe i’m wrong by association. but it sure doesn’t seem like these companies should get section 230 protections either way for ai generated content.

    Gorsuch is a really fucking interesting guy

    Like, he sucks in a lot of the standard ways Republicans suck, there's no way around that. But he's got a weirdly great record on stuff like tribal law, a record of decisions there that's a LOT better than a LOT of Dem judges. He's clearly willing to compromise on a lot of beliefs to get as high as he's gotten, and I'm sure a lot of his earnestly-held beliefs suck shit, but it seems like there's something down there in him in a way I don't often feel about Republicans. He's not purely reactionary, he has some core he occasionally listens to.

    I would stop short of saying I respect him, he's a Supreme Court justice. But he's interesting, and hard to pin down, and to be sometimes right is still leagues beyond where a lot of his party's at.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    yea but also he was on the side of a truckers gotta freeze to death with his truck or lose his job. a land of contrasts.

    he def has some twisted internal logic that he does follow which does put him above a lot of conservative justices, but i still am nervous generally if i agree with him.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    yea but also he was on the side of a truckers gotta freeze to death with his truck or lose his job. a land of contrasts.

    he def has some twisted internal logic that he does follow which does put him above a lot of conservative justices, but i still am nervous generally if i agree with him.

    In an extremely twisted way, I've always wished that he and Kavanaugh's appointments were switched so he'd just be the shitty appointment, not the stolen one.

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  • FremFrem Registered User regular
    edited February 22
    Jragghen wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Hey

    Did Net Neutrality ever get reinstated?

    I think it did, but it was ultimately moot since everyone was forced to follow some more restrictive stuff CA passed.

    I feel so blessed by CA's "opt out of tracking cookies" mandate that it has made me truly and non-ironically question where I stand on Net Neutrality.

    I don't know where I stand now, my opinions are inchoate, I'm not a lawyer and I'm a big dumb idiot. But goddamn does ad tracking give me the "cyberpunk WARNED US ABOUT THIS" heebie-jeebies, I am actually very glad that corporations have to ask me if they can study me and gain my consent before they do so

    Wait, is a California law the reason that a bunch of US-based websites suddenly started on with the same awful "malicious compliance" style cookie permission dialogs that EU sites had been using to comply with GDPR? I hate everything around those so much, especially since there are a lot of non-cookie ways to track users and browsers have already been making cookie tracking less effective.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Frem wrote: »
    Jragghen wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Hey

    Did Net Neutrality ever get reinstated?

    I think it did, but it was ultimately moot since everyone was forced to follow some more restrictive stuff CA passed.

    I feel so blessed by CA's "opt out of tracking cookies" mandate that it has made me truly and non-ironically question where I stand on Net Neutrality.

    I don't know where I stand now, my opinions are inchoate, I'm not a lawyer and I'm a big dumb idiot. But goddamn does ad tracking give me the "cyberpunk WARNED US ABOUT THIS" heebie-jeebies, I am actually very glad that corporations have to ask me if they can study me and gain my consent before they do so

    Wait, is a California law the reason that a bunch of US-based websites suddenly started on with the same awful "malicious compliance" style cookie permission dialogs that EU sites had been using to comply with GDPR? I hate everything around those so much, especially since there are a lot of non-cookie ways to track users and browsers have already been making cookie tracking less effective.

    https://www.oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa
    The right to know about the personal information a business collects about them and how it is used and shared;
    The right to delete personal information collected from them (with some exceptions);
    The right to opt-out of the sale or sharing of their personal information; and
    The right to non-discrimination for exercising their CCPA rights.
    The right to correct inaccurate personal information that a business has about them; and
    The right to limit the use and disclosure of sensitive personal information collected about them.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular

    Russian bots used auto translate to spam about Nato on "Finnish" accounts. But they confused Save (to rescue) with Save (to download). So now social media is filled with these accounts explaining how Nato won't download Finland. I'm fucking dying KEKW

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I mean, how else do I get Estonia over here?

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  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    So the big "Twitter charging for access to their API" thing is going well:

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    Sure sounds like the decision came without any thought or reason behind it from on high and now there's a bunch of barely-staffed departments screaming internally about how it's going to hurt them so they're going to *checks notes* focus on quality in the coming weeks.

    We had a full day of multiple teams across multiple timezones standing by monitoring the APIs for any sign of error or unusual response. 3 separate people across the world with access to the company billing so we could sign up for their stupid fee if they ever made the page public and here we are with another nebulous "try again later" message. We sure ended up spending a lot more than $100 in lost development time.

    It's hilarious how this has caused such a shift in the mindset of the higher-ups. Even the people at C-suite who have previously breathlessly talked about Musk's accomplishments are now referring to "how he's fucked it up" and how much of an idiot he is.

    Just more fuel for the self-own fire.

    The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin
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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Twitter’s operating model is “code faster to make up for my too-obvious-to-fix-without-being-embarrassed shortcomings” just with a fraction of the staff needed for it

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  • DidgeridooDidgeridoo Flighty Dame Registered User regular
    Did Twitter remove the 'most recent posts first' option in the following tab, or am I nuts?

    This might be the thing that finally gets me off the hellsite

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    Did Twitter remove the 'most recent posts first' option in the following tab, or am I nuts?

    This might be the thing that finally gets me off the hellsite

    Now it's "Following" and the "For You" tab is the one that was the algorithm-recommended list.

    Of course, "For You" is broken and doesn't actually show you all the tweets from every account you follow, but it is still better than algorithm showing you shit out of order multiple times.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    Yeah if all you want is to view posts in post order you gotta do Mastodon or Tumblr.

    FB, IG, twitter? They use the algorithm, because they're advertising companies.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Twitter had a chronological timeline until the muskening even if they tried really hard to trick you into using the algorithm one, did they finally torpedo it?

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  • ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    Twitter had a chronological timeline until the muskening even if they tried really hard to trick you into using the algorithm one, did they finally torpedo it?

    Not so much torpedoed, more they just "refined" it with so much extra shit that it sank under its own weight and slaughtered this metaphor.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Tharr she blows

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  • CarpyCarpy Registered User regular
    Chronological timeline is still there with the same sporadic issues that it had before the buyout. It misses some retweets and replies but it's always done that

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    https://github.com/insin/control-panel-for-twitter/

    this extension works well on chrome, lets you disable all the "for you" timeline shenanigans

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    ...what

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I need a better source for that being an actual japanese internet slang term

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    is this a pro/anti-shipping thing or

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited February 22
    The tweeter says they aren't commenting on shipping specifically, and I think it can apply to a lot of things. For example, there's been an uptick on social media of people expressing discomfort with sex scenes in movies and TV and extrapolating that out to sex scenes being flatly bad for the medium and wishing for, no shit, the good old days of the Hays Code

    Also generally media literacy seems pretty low in some circles these days and lots of people who can't seem to grasp that depicting morally wrong or bad actions or characters is not the same as endorsing them, etc

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    I think that's just Pricipal Skinner says "no it is the children who are wrong"

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    If there's anything that sounds more likely to go off the rails than pro/anti shipping discourse it's meta discussion about another culture's possible reaction to pro/anti shipping discourse and extrapolating that discussion to totally unrelated issues.

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  • DeansDeans Registered User regular
    edited February 22
    What came to mind for me was chuds whining about the existence of LBGTQ characters in media.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    It is vague enough you can read quite a lot of meanings into the post

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Somehow the not particularly nuanced thought that not every piece of media is going to cater to your specific tastes, nor should it, has been ejected into the sun and woe be the soul who suggests it.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    If there's anything that sounds more likely to go off the rails than pro/anti shipping discourse it's meta discussion about another culture's possible reaction to pro/anti shipping discourse and extrapolating that discussion to totally unrelated issues.

    So are you for or against the Supernatural brothers fucking each other? I need a clear position, dawg.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    The tweeter says they aren't commenting on shipping specifically, and I think it can apply to a lot of things. For example, there's been an uptick on social media of people expressing discomfort with sex scenes in movies and TV and extrapolating that out to sex scenes being flatly bad for the medium and wishing for, no shit, the good old days of the Hays Code

    Also generally media literacy seems pretty low in some circles these days and lots of people who can't seem to grasp that depicting morally wrong or bad actions or characters is not the same as endorsing them, etc

    The problem is that it can also apply to marginalized groups voicing complaints about misrepresentation in media as well - and too often such terms are being used to lump all such arguments together in order to dismiss the legitimate arguments without looking like they are.

    As for depiction not equalling endorsement, the counterpoint is Truffaut's famous statement of "there is no such thing as an anti war film", and while I don't think he's completely right, I also don't think he's completely wrong, either.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Saw a thing that florida let people sue people for being called a bigot and this applies nationally? Can practically hear the 1984, funny from the group constantly invoking the book, they'd probably burn it.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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