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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
  • TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    But why male models?

    Freak gasoline fight accident?

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    I hated kung pow when it came out but dear God "We trained him wrong as joke" and "I'm bleeding, making me the victor" and "My nuts to your fist style!" are all great.

    It's not a good movie and it has aged awfully but that one and a half scenes? Gold.

    Some of my favorite bits are just one off gags, like someone points in a direction and goes “you go that way” and then points in another and says “I’ll go home!” And then runs off

    Or the dumb dub jokes, like the dog barking and the audio track being out of sync, or the hero visibly screaming in someone’s face and the dub being a soft and polite “I implore you to reconsider”

    I guess if you make a movie that’s essentially a series of loosely themed bits and gags, if the hit rate is high enough, the good bits will give that movie a longer shelf life

    But boy if that rate ain’t high enough, hoo boy

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
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    Kung Pow, like Dodgeball, persists with a few lines of dialogue that have entered my personal lexicon, but as a whole object, I have no qualms about discarding them.

    Long time since I've seen Dodgeball and I only have a hazy recollection of it. What are the unfortunate implications in it?

    A lot of unfortunate "jokes" regarding sexuality in that there film.

    Yeah lotta homophobic jokes in that one. Some body shaming with the cheerleader tryouts flashback. And the stinger.

    But, then Steve the Pirate.

    A land of contrasts.

    If you want to point to a movie from that time that is just bad in retrospect, you're looking for Old School

    Even setting aside the stuff that's one can now recognize as problematic, the vast majority of the jokes just didn't resonate with me any more.

    But, as I've said before, the film does justify its existence by adding "It's a bold strategy, Cotton" to our collective lexicon.

    What's wild to me is that the premise of Dodgeball is that a gym that is welcoming and non-judgmental would be a good thing worth keeping around but it spends a lot of time actively body-shaming people. Like, did they not at all see the contradiction there at all?

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

    Yeah, I’d probably never watch it again on purpose because woof, but “if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball” is just good writing.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    "Oh, what a cute baby. Bye bye, baby!"

    Had me fucking dying in the theater. Like I was kneeling on the floor laughing. Kung Pow deffo had bits that landed for me at the age i saw it.

    That and Thumb Wars was beyond stupid and I loved it.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Remember that Dodgeball also has the lance armstrong cameo

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    Weirdly, Road Trip has like the most positive message ending of those early aught problematic movies. Which is not something I would have expected.

    A relationship ends, but it isn't treated as a failure, and both people are amicable.

    Stifler the proto-alpha male finds out he likes buttstuff and embraces it, and while it is played as a bit of a joke, it isn't one at his expense.

    A son learns to confront his father and be his own person, and the father learns to let his son live his life and be proud of him for it, while also being wholly non-judgmental of the son's interracial relationship.

    Tom Green makes out with someone's mom. Look, they can't all be winners.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

    Can you give me an example? i was sure it was wildly transphobic but couldn't remember anything and the wiki isn't helpful.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    I like Shaolin soccer better than Kung fu Hustle.

    (PSN: Morninglord) (Steam: Morninglord) (WiiU: Morninglord22) I like to record and toss up a lot of random gaming videos here.
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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

    Can you give me an example? i was sure it was wildly transphobic but couldn't remember anything and the wiki isn't helpful.

    I would guess all the "She's good at dodgeball, therefore she's one of them gays, cause real women aren't good at sports" jokes that the movie pops out a couple of times.

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

    Can you give me an example? i was sure it was wildly transphobic but couldn't remember anything and the wiki isn't helpful.

    I would guess all the "She's good at dodgeball, therefore she's one of them gays, cause real women aren't good at sports" jokes that the movie pops out a couple of times.

    The homophobia I remember.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

    Can you give me an example? i was sure it was wildly transphobic but couldn't remember anything and the wiki isn't helpful.

    I would guess all the "She's good at dodgeball, therefore she's one of them gays, cause real women aren't good at sports" jokes that the movie pops out a couple of times.

    The homophobia I remember.

    I mean, there's a throughline that isn't really difficult to see from "Women that are good at sports are gay" and "Not real women"

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

    Can you give me an example? i was sure it was wildly transphobic but couldn't remember anything and the wiki isn't helpful.
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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Anchorman, I think that one mostly still holds up. It mostly aims to be absurd over being offensive, from what I remember

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Sorry I dont believe in anime

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Speaking of comedy that doesn't age well, but absolutely hits some massive highs is the recurring 'ESPN 8 THE OCHO' in Dodgeball.

    That was during peak Bristol, CT ESPN years where they would show fucking anything across their ten channels.

    Four hours straight of a World's Strongest Man Qualifier? Yes!

    Regional Championship of Division 2 Women's Volleyball? Yes!

    Magic the Gathering? Hell fucking yes.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Sorry I dont believe in anime

    buttlord gt surpasses anime

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  • Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    impossible, nothing surpasses anime

  • TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Anime is blood

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    V1m wrote: »
    Lanz wrote: »
    TERFs tried to rally in New Zealand today and it did not go well for them:


    Counterprotestors have taken over the Albert Park Rotunda and Posie Parker didn’t get to say a single word. That’s us, Auckland. That’s us.


    (reposting from locked acc) "The person who poured tomato juice on KJM is a transgender intersex woman who came here from Colombia as a refugee. She was able to infiltrate the group at the rotunda because none of the TERFs realised she was trans"

    https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/03/25/posie-parker-rally-protester-explains-tomato-juice-throw/

    JUICE


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    terfs can get in the fuckn sea

    Terfs get no turf.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    terfs in the surf

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

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    God damn Buttlord GT had some hits.

    But when it was bad, man it was rough.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Sorry I dont believe in anime

    You may not believe in Anime, Sammich, but Anime believes in you.

    Believe it!

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular

    MAGA House Republican proposals would slash funding for border security – a move that could allow nearly 900 pounds of fentanyl into our country.

    We need more resources to secure the border. Not less.


    Joe Biden you absolute fucking dumbass

    You colossal fucking piece of shit

    You absolute goddamn cantaloupe

    You fucking half-stuck dipswitch.

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Whenever someone’s doing something slightly annoying, my friend group has “it is a great honour having you beating random people in our town”

    But yeah it’s mainly a movie to quote select lines from now, not watch

    I’m pretty sure anchorman hasn’t got anything too bad in it tho

  • TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    What's a focal length

  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited March 26

    You would be amazed at how many people, even in the age of everyone walking around with a portable camera in their pocket, have no idea about how different focal lengths can radically reshape an image

    EDIT: For the record, not accounting for individual variance, as well as the amount of processing your brain does and the impacts of binocular vision, etc. etc., on average the equivalent focal length of the human eye is apparently somewhere around 17mm; in person, Fetterman is probably going to look closer to the second than he would the first image

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    What's a focal length

    length of the focal

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    basically focal length is where the camera lens focuses and zooms in. in order to shoot a Portrait, where you need to stand depends on the focal length of a lens, and the closer or farther you are to someone creates a different degree of distortion and interpretation as a result. i'm fond of this comparison chart i pulled off google because it includes the background

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    basically focal length is where the camera lens focuses and zooms in. in order to shoot a Portrait, where you need to stand depends on the focal length of a lens, and the closer or farther you are to someone creates a different degree of distortion and interpretation as a result. i'm fond of this comparison chart i pulled off google because it includes the background

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    Wiki has a great gif for demonstrating this in action as well:

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    In this computer simulation, adjusting the field of view (by changing the focal length) while keeping the subject in frame (by changing accordingly the position of the camera) results in vastly differing images. At focal lengths approaching infinity (0 degrees of field of view), the light rays are nearly parallel to each other, resulting in the subject looking "flattened". At small focal lengths (bigger field of view), the subject appears "foreshortened".

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

    Can you give me an example? i was sure it was wildly transphobic but couldn't remember anything and the wiki isn't helpful.

    I would guess all the "She's good at dodgeball, therefore she's one of them gays, cause real women aren't good at sports" jokes that the movie pops out a couple of times.

    The homophobia I remember.
    Lanz wrote: »

    You would be amazed at how many people, even in the age of everyone walking around with a portable camera in their pocket, have no idea about how different focal lengths can radically reshape an image

    EDIT: For the record, not accounting for individual variance, as well as the amount of processing your brain does and the impacts of binocular vision, etc. etc., on average the equivalent focal length of the human eye is apparently somewhere around 17mm; in person, Fetterman is probably going to look closer to the second than he would the first image

    It is I think always incorrect to treat these people as if they have a legitimate misunderstanding. These people do not care what you say because their thought process begins with what they would like to be true and it's all conspiratorial backfilling afterwards.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Not much. What’s a focal length with you

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Dodgeball has a lot of jokes and gags that we'd recognize now as transphobic-adjacent at best. Its fine to just remember the good jokes and know that we've moved on as a society and don't need to excuse the bad stuff. Comedic routines don't need to live forever.

    Can you give me an example? i was sure it was wildly transphobic but couldn't remember anything and the wiki isn't helpful.

    I would guess all the "She's good at dodgeball, therefore she's one of them gays, cause real women aren't good at sports" jokes that the movie pops out a couple of times.

    The homophobia I remember.
    Lanz wrote: »

    You would be amazed at how many people, even in the age of everyone walking around with a portable camera in their pocket, have no idea about how different focal lengths can radically reshape an image

    EDIT: For the record, not accounting for individual variance, as well as the amount of processing your brain does and the impacts of binocular vision, etc. etc., on average the equivalent focal length of the human eye is apparently somewhere around 17mm; in person, Fetterman is probably going to look closer to the second than he would the first image

    It is I think always incorrect to treat these people as if they have a legitimate misunderstanding. These people do not care what you say because their thought process begins with what they would like to be true and it's all conspiratorial backfilling afterwards.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    it sounds like there's massive protests in israel today against netanyahu

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    specifically the protests are about his judicial reforms and it looks like those may fail now, and it's weakening netanyahu's power

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
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