The large adult man who is Layton's rival manages to disguise himself as the teenage girl Layton has been entrusted with the care of. It takes most of the game for his mask to come off.
I think the main plot involved hallucinogens?
Third game
In order to fool everyone to think they're in the future, a couple builds their clocktower into a giant elevator that takes them to an enormous subterranean cavern completely with a replica of "future" London in it. IIRC, they even hire an actor to play "Old Luke".
The Layton games are batshit insane.
Second Layton game is
Gas Leak ending, like most of the main setting, and maybe the people? are a hallucination.
I respect the absurdity of the franchise, but that twist I hate.
Also the fifth game (my favourite) is set in a desert city
in the United Kingdom
I played through the first three again recently on ipad, and the ending of Unwound Future, even knowing what was coming, just, . . . oof
I didn't like 4/5/6 as much as the first three, the plots felt like they were getting a bit out of hand, but Layton Brothers is fun, and Katrielle+Millionaires Conspiracy is also worth a look.
I guess I did play Oblivion and Fallouts 3, New Vegas, and 4, but those aren't quite the thing I'm thinking of wrt the post-AssCreed open world style, BethSoft games are kinda in their own corner and also I only really loved New Vegas out of all those - much like Witcher 3, played it more like a CRPG
Yeah I changed the controls around as well, the vertical movement and hold-to-boost stick click were odd choices.
Tried out the drone ship and it might be my new favourite. The drones are just permanent - I thought they were on a timer - and it's easy enough to repair them.
I have 6 little guys following me around now and they just mess people up.
Found some Stardust paint colour which is a nice cream and I've got it setup with a deep purple metallic trim. Looking fly while I fly.
I just got myself a bomber last night just before I went to bed. Probably not gonna stick with it aside from one offs like completing that challenge as I don't super like using secondaries compared to primaries. That and it's speed and handling are even worse than the gunship which is already at about the lower end of what I can drive without getting grumpy.
Prescott Station has a tooon of secrets. I think I've found something like 6 secure containers and still haven't 100%ed it. Though maybe it requires you to platinum the race for that? I can barely squeak out bronze in the gunship.
I suspect if you want to get platinum in the races you'll want to use a Vanguard as they have the best handling and top speed. There is an Achievement for getting all platinum, but 100% location completion does not require platinum, bronze is enough just to mark the mission objective as complete.
For me the lights are usually too squishy and the heavies too slow to avoid damage so I die more often in them vs the medium ships.
Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
Actually it depends what you're looking for. Do you want a game that's more kinetic and heroic (Dishonored) or more simmy and character based (Prey)? I bounced off the first because I gave zero shits about the characters and setting, and didn't love how the fighting felt, and I think the second is the most compelling video game narrative I've played. Also, fun mechanics. But kind of a janky FPS and not really kinetic, not about movement or jumping or action as a primary draw.
hey PC gaming thread, funky question but, I've never really played any games of the following two genres:
a) the modern open-world "map full of explorable destinations" game in the vein of an AssCreed 2 (with the sole exception of Witcher 3, but I mostly played that one as if I were playing a CRPG)
b) the Arkane style immersive sims with the safe code I can never remember, I never even fully played Bioshock beyond trying the opening levels at a friend's house
in the year of our lard 2023, what games are kind of the bang-for-buck winners in those fields? AssCreed Origins and Odyssey and the first Horizon game look neat for the former, Prey and the Dishonoreds look interesting for the latter, but it's just two modern genres I've almost entirely missed out on in the last decade and a half
I do have Dishonored 1+2 buried in my steam vault somewhere I think so that might be a place to start
You've basically got it. The other option for a) would be a Far Cry, probably 4 is the best one? For b) definitely start with Dishonored, since it's in your vault. My advice is don't try to do any kind of a perfect playthrough, if you're prone to that style of playing games like I am.
This is what ends open world games for me. It's really hard for me to move on to the next zone/story mission if I haven't checked all the existing boxes.
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You mentioned it, but I'll double recommend Assassins Creed Odyssey.
Top to bottom a great game
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yeah I specifically figured AC:O and AC:O were good touchstones because they're the only UbiSoft AAA games this thread seems unambiguously positive on, and especially AC:O
AC Origins I might barely prefer over Odyssey but that’s entirely because Egypt is an incredibly cool and fun setting, and I definitely prefer the character stories. Odyssey has a bit more game design evolution to it, and Kassandra gets wickedly powerful in very fun ways, and Greece is also a great place to AssCreed around in, just not in ways I found as compelling as Origins.
If you decide to jump in with either of those, definitely grab the DLCs, they’re worthwhile in both games.
Related: it boggles me how Valhalla is so much worse of a game than either of the two before it. There are some story bits I like (Basim is neat, Fulke is weird in a fun way), and I like the spread of combat options, especially the breadth of weaponry. But there is so much not worth doing, it feels bad to play sometimes, and England, while pretty and full of mysterious misty places, has nothing on Egypt and Greece as a game setting, at least as presented.
i was remarking to my partner, as i trudged through the norway snow, that i really identified with viking themed games because it felt like the only fantasy settings where things sort of felt like the forests of the PNW i grew up exploring. not 1:1, obviously, there's a whole ass ocean or two between them, but the closest you got to
Can highly recommend both the Dishonored games for good sneaking around games. The modern Deus Ex games are also exemplars of the genre of "people leaving passwords out on their desk".
You may also want to check out Cyberpunk. Much more combat focused, but does offer some stealth and hacking as well.
If you're willing to go back to some older stuff, and up for figuring out all the patches to get it working on a modern system, you might want to try Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines. My personal favorite immersive sim. I don't think anything since has really topped it for offering you different options for playstyles.
There's also Vampire: The Masquerade - Swansong. Only out on Epic right now, but has a Steam release next month. Not as good as Bloodlines, but it works straight out of the box. Has some very good environmental clues to get past optional puzzles. Less finding a paper with "RE: My new password. Do not share." and more figuring out an important number or phrase for somebody.
And if you want to go a bit further out, I'd kinda consider Hitman to be a part of the immersive sim family. It's got big open levels with multiple paths through them. Various ways to get past obstacles. Social, stealth and combat resolutions are all possible. Tons of secrets to find to open up new paths.
I think I prefer Origins to Odyssey. Both are good games but Odyssey is where I started having thoughts of "Maybe there is such a thing as too much game". Then Valhalla came out and was just way bigger.
Making the next AC a more limited game map that's focused on a single city and its outlying areas is a smart move imo.
I think I prefer Origins to Odyssey. Both are good games but Odyssey is where I started having thoughts of "Maybe there is such a thing as too much game". Then Valhalla came out and was just way bigger.
Making the next AC a more limited game map that's focused on a single city and its outlying areas is a smart move imo.
I loved my AC games a lot but I'll never go back to them after Genshin. If you ignore the gacha (and you easily can, they give you the currency a LOT) it's cleaner, prettier and you get so much more rewards just for fucking around and poking your anime snoot into stuff. I trip over a puzzle like every 10 feet.
I guess I did play Oblivion and Fallouts 3, New Vegas, and 4, but those aren't quite the thing I'm thinking of wrt the post-AssCreed open world style, BethSoft games are kinda in their own corner and also I only really loved New Vegas out of all those - much like Witcher 3, played it more like a CRPG
I still loved Valhalla even despite the ending(s). A lot of that's probably just being a huge sucker for viking stuff but I thought the general structure was a bit easier to tackle than Odyssey, having a central village and all and sort of explicitly laying out why you were wandering to each of these new regions and doing the local quest chain there.
I have no memories of rock stacking though so I think that's probably one of the things I did once and then added the icon to my mental ignore list.
If you can get past the Tom Clancy as all hell story, The Division is a good open world shooty gadget numbers go up series. 2 is still being supported with seasonal releases
hey PC gaming thread, funky question but, I've never really played any games of the following two genres:
a) the modern open-world "map full of explorable destinations" game in the vein of an AssCreed 2 (with the sole exception of Witcher 3, but I mostly played that one as if I were playing a CRPG)
b) the Arkane style immersive sims with the safe code I can never remember, I never even fully played Bioshock beyond trying the opening levels at a friend's house
in the year of our lard 2023, what games are kind of the bang-for-buck winners in those fields? AssCreed Origins and Odyssey and the first Horizon game look neat for the former, Prey and the Dishonoreds look interesting for the latter, but it's just two modern genres I've almost entirely missed out on in the last decade and a half
I do have Dishonored 1+2 buried in my steam vault somewhere I think so that might be a place to start
How do you feel about the Hitman series? I ask because Dishonored leans more towards that ends of the spectrum if you take the non-lethal approach. Prey, on the other hand, skews closer to the Shock games.
Not to disparage you from playing Dishonored, I thought it was really good, just throwing it out there.
Award-winning game studio Ustwo Games has been accused of anti-union activities by the Independent Workers Union of Great Britain (IWGB) — a trade union in the United Kingdom. The Monument Valley and Assemble With Care developer reportedly fired senior programmer Austin Kelmore, a founding member of a branch of IWGB, Game Workers Unite UK, after he was allegedly “questioned by management about ... union activities.”
Ustwo Games denies the allegations. An Ustwo Games representative told Polygon that Kelmore is “leaving in the near future for reasons unconnected to his membership of a trade union or his undertaking trade union activities.”
I guess I did play Oblivion and Fallouts 3, New Vegas, and 4, but those aren't quite the thing I'm thinking of wrt the post-AssCreed open world style, BethSoft games are kinda in their own corner and also I only really loved New Vegas out of all those - much like Witcher 3, played it more like a CRPG
How does one play Witcher like a CRPG exactly?
Oh I mostly mean mindset-wise — I did a little bit of exploring I suppose, but I was almost entirely in it for the quests and dialogue much more so than the exploration. I did a little bit of "oh I can go to there" in the early game, but mostly ever as part of going between questline set pieces. Same with New Vegas
If you can get past the Tom Clancy as all hell story, The Division is a good open world shooty gadget numbers go up series. 2 is still being supported with seasonal releases
Oh yeah, Wildlands I also felt was a pretty good open world shooter, with a similar reservation towards the storyline. At times it feels like part of the writing staff wanted to start leaning in to start satirizing it, but it always pulls back into playing it straight US war machine propaganda. I really liked it when it's giving you flashy super-well produced run down on the almost Saint's Row level villains, but it's real hard to recommend when it always comes back to "now let's torture them to get more intel".
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I played through the first three again recently on ipad, and the ending of Unwound Future, even knowing what was coming, just, . . . oof
I didn't like 4/5/6 as much as the first three, the plots felt like they were getting a bit out of hand, but Layton Brothers is fun, and Katrielle+Millionaires Conspiracy is also worth a look.
Preeeeey.
I suspect if you want to get platinum in the races you'll want to use a Vanguard as they have the best handling and top speed. There is an Achievement for getting all platinum, but 100% location completion does not require platinum, bronze is enough just to mark the mission objective as complete.
For me the lights are usually too squishy and the heavies too slow to avoid damage so I die more often in them vs the medium ships.
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This is what ends open world games for me. It's really hard for me to move on to the next zone/story mission if I haven't checked all the existing boxes.
Top to bottom a great game
you just wanna be alcibiades
another one of them secret lodge in the canadian shield-em-ups
If you decide to jump in with either of those, definitely grab the DLCs, they’re worthwhile in both games.
then the game went to england
You may also want to check out Cyberpunk. Much more combat focused, but does offer some stealth and hacking as well.
If you're willing to go back to some older stuff, and up for figuring out all the patches to get it working on a modern system, you might want to try Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines. My personal favorite immersive sim. I don't think anything since has really topped it for offering you different options for playstyles.
There's also Vampire: The Masquerade - Swansong. Only out on Epic right now, but has a Steam release next month. Not as good as Bloodlines, but it works straight out of the box. Has some very good environmental clues to get past optional puzzles. Less finding a paper with "RE: My new password. Do not share." and more figuring out an important number or phrase for somebody.
And if you want to go a bit further out, I'd kinda consider Hitman to be a part of the immersive sim family. It's got big open levels with multiple paths through them. Various ways to get past obstacles. Social, stealth and combat resolutions are all possible. Tons of secrets to find to open up new paths.
Making the next AC a more limited game map that's focused on a single city and its outlying areas is a smart move imo.
I loved my AC games a lot but I'll never go back to them after Genshin. If you ignore the gacha (and you easily can, they give you the currency a LOT) it's cleaner, prettier and you get so much more rewards just for fucking around and poking your anime snoot into stuff. I trip over a puzzle like every 10 feet.
How does one play Witcher like a CRPG exactly?
I have no memories of rock stacking though so I think that's probably one of the things I did once and then added the icon to my mental ignore list.
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How do you feel about the Hitman series? I ask because Dishonored leans more towards that ends of the spectrum if you take the non-lethal approach. Prey, on the other hand, skews closer to the Shock games.
Not to disparage you from playing Dishonored, I thought it was really good, just throwing it out there.
position is in the UK
but... also note:
https://www.polygon.com/2019/10/3/20896781/monument-valley-developer-ustwo-games-union-busting-accusation
Oh I mostly mean mindset-wise — I did a little bit of exploring I suppose, but I was almost entirely in it for the quests and dialogue much more so than the exploration. I did a little bit of "oh I can go to there" in the early game, but mostly ever as part of going between questline set pieces. Same with New Vegas
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You'll find a ship dealer on the first planet you can land on, which is probably around 3 hours in, so I'm guessing you're pretty close.
Asheron's Call
Armored Core
Fuck it, AC means Arkham City now because that's my favorite.
The *only* game with an AC abbreviation
Oh yeah, Wildlands I also felt was a pretty good open world shooter, with a similar reservation towards the storyline. At times it feels like part of the writing staff wanted to start leaning in to start satirizing it, but it always pulls back into playing it straight US war machine propaganda. I really liked it when it's giving you flashy super-well produced run down on the almost Saint's Row level villains, but it's real hard to recommend when it always comes back to "now let's torture them to get more intel".