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Chess Life - FIDE Grand Swiss: 25/10 to 5/11

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    Looks like Magnus makes it to the finals fabi/pragg have to do tiebreaks after drawing the first two

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited August 2023
    woooow
    and pragg takes down fabi after 4 rounds of tiebreaks
    Magnus vs Pragg for the championship
    Huge achievement for Pragg to even be here for a player who is just starting to break 2700 and of course Magnus has never won this tournament before and is ostensibly 2 rounds away from finally doing so
    Meaningful match for both these players

    dlinfiniti on
    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Given the way his intense prep routine had Hikaru completely off his game in their match, Pragg has the classic puncher's chance to slay the dragon.

    However, if Magnus shows up with a man-bun and in sandals, Pragg's family will need to make arrangements, as he will be facing an avatar of Vishnu disguised as The Dude.

    No matter where you go...there you are.
    ~ Buckaroo Banzai
  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Ah, Fide wants to be part of the club of international asshole sports associations:
    https://www.npr.org/2023/08/18/1194593562/chess-transgender-fide-pushback
    The International Chess Federation, known as FIDE, will effectively stop allowing transgender women from participating in women's competitions until "further analysis" can be made — which could take up to two years.

    The organization will also remove some titles won by players who won in women's categories and later transitioned to male. It will also remove some titles won by transgender men. The new policies are slated to go into effect on Monday.

    with added extra discrimination?
    FIDE also ruled that it has the right to make "an appropriate mark" of a gender change in a player's profile, as well as inform tournaments of any transgender competitors.

    Transgender men who won in women's events before transitioning will have their titles abolished. The titles could be renewed if a player detransitions and can "prove the ownership of the respective FIDE ID that holds the title," the federation said. Abolished titles may also be transferred into a "general title of the same or lower level."

    Meanwhile, transgender women can keep any titles they earned before they transitioned.

    At least a bunch of national associations are pushing back against it

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    Ah, Fide wants to be part of the club of international asshole sports associations:
    https://www.npr.org/2023/08/18/1194593562/chess-transgender-fide-pushback
    The International Chess Federation, known as FIDE, will effectively stop allowing transgender women from participating in women's competitions until "further analysis" can be made — which could take up to two years.

    The organization will also remove some titles won by players who won in women's categories and later transitioned to male. It will also remove some titles won by transgender men. The new policies are slated to go into effect on Monday.

    with added extra discrimination?
    FIDE also ruled that it has the right to make "an appropriate mark" of a gender change in a player's profile, as well as inform tournaments of any transgender competitors.

    Transgender men who won in women's events before transitioning will have their titles abolished. The titles could be renewed if a player detransitions and can "prove the ownership of the respective FIDE ID that holds the title," the federation said. Abolished titles may also be transferred into a "general title of the same or lower level."

    Meanwhile, transgender women can keep any titles they earned before they transitioned.

    At least a bunch of national associations are pushing back against it

    https://www.outsports.com/2023/8/22/23840225/chess-transgender-women-ban-fide-backlash-jennifer-shahade-yosha-iglesias
    Critics also contend the ruling falls in line with the beliefs of FIDE’s president Arkady Dvorkovich, a former deputy prime minister of Russia with close ties to Russian president Vladimir Putin.

    One of the earliest public shows of support came from Chairman of the Russian State Duma Committee on Physical Culture and Sports Dmitry Svishchev, and the ruling also comes mere weeks after Russia enacted a new set of anti-LGBTQ laws including a ban on gender-affirming surgeries.

    “This is an absolutely correct decision on behalf of the International Chess Federation,” Svishchev stated to the Russian news agency TASS.

    Get out of my chess Russia.

  • CorlisCorlis Registered User regular
    I think they're trying to prevent people with penises from pulling off the final move in this game from the BBC.

    https://youtu.be/f8gSlg4Xxr8

    Seriously though, that is a bonkers decision.

    But I don't mind, as long as there's a bed beneath the stars that shine,
    I'll be fine, just give me a minute, a man's got a limit, I can't get a life if my heart's not in it.
  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Fabi got absolutely rolled by Abasov today

    And Magnus and Pragg drew.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited August 2023
    Pragg has been so impressive (this kid is 18) and not only has he already beaten #2 and #3 in Hikaru and Fabi (though seems like they switched spots during this tournament as Fabi made it further), he's also gained 10 ranking spots and almost 40 points in this tournament alone
    He drew magnus as white in the first game so we'll see what happens tomorrow

    oh and here is Hikaru's breakdown of the first game
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSZIacBXfw

    dlinfiniti on
    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited August 2023
    wooo tiebreaks!
    Magnus and Pragg drew with Magnus as white in the 2nd round and we'll be going into tie breaks which according to Hikaru, Magnus seems to have played for immediately
    for the 3rd place game, fabi won as white putting them into tiebreaks as well tomorrow
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l8yrjzV7Ns


    according to Hikaru, Magnus has been struggling with foodpoisoning and not feeling well which may of contributed to basically playing for a draw from the get go
    He probably feels more confident against Pragg if he can get some rest and also in the Rapid or Blitz tiebreaks

    dlinfiniti on
    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Magnus won the World Cup.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited August 2023
    Incredible first tiebreak game by magnus as black basically ensuring his win as it forced Pragg to be extra aggressive to try to win the second game as black himself. Congrats to Magnus in his first World Cup tournament win
    looks like fabi dominated the tiebreaks and wins 3rd place as well
    here is Hikaru's breakdown as usual
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU9CKiYkak0

    dlinfiniti on
    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4WzTSR3hmo&list=PLT1F2nOxLHOc80pNT3XH1xUDyeom46R3X

    Daniel Nardoitsky (Danya to those of us in the know) has a speed run series and he goes -deep- into chess principals here as well as giving you some good Opening Theory lessons.

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    96xxz4t7j9kb1.jpg

    White to move, mate in 2.

    There are three possible checkmating solutions, I'm only giving out candy to the person that finds the prettiest solution.

  • fedaykin666fedaykin666 Registered User regular
    Qh4 Qb4 or Qe5. I have no idea which one you consider the most aesthetic.

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Qh4 Qb4 or Qe5. I have no idea which one you consider the most aesthetic.

    Qe5 is the prettiest one.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    Which one is the one where you pee the black king off the board

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • fedaykin666fedaykin666 Registered User regular
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    Which one is the one where you pee the black king off the board

    That would be the old BBC sketch of Short vs Kasparov "World New Chess Championship" .

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    edited August 2023
    ZUe3l8Gl.png

    Mate in 2, white to move. Answer in spoilers please.

    Trace on
  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    ZUe3l8Gl.png

    Mate in 2, white to move. Answer in spoilers please.
    Na4 Ka5 b4?

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
  • marajimaraji Registered User regular
    edited August 2023
    Paladin wrote: »
    Trace wrote: »
    ZUe3l8Gl.png

    Mate in 2, white to move. Answer in spoilers please.
    Na4 Ka5 b4?
    edit nope I’m dumb

    maraji on
  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    maraji wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    Trace wrote: »
    ZUe3l8Gl.png

    Mate in 2, white to move. Answer in spoilers please.
    Na4 Ka5 b4?
    edit nope I’m dumb

    No. That is indeed mate. The pawn is protected by the queen. The knight by the bishop.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    edited August 2023
    If that's based off a real game, I'm wondering if white used the fried liver attack, as I can't think of many scenarios where the king would end up in front of a mostly intact castle and be in control of eighth rank

    Edit: scratch that theory, wrong side

    Paladin on
    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
  • marajimaraji Registered User regular
    Goumindong wrote: »
    maraji wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    Trace wrote: »
    ZUe3l8Gl.png

    Mate in 2, white to move. Answer in spoilers please.
    Na4 Ka5 b4?
    edit nope I’m dumb

    No. That is indeed mate. The pawn is protected by the queen. The knight by the bishop.

    I know, I had a different solution that was incorrect

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/chess-com-concludes-legal-dispute-with-hans-niemann-niemann-to-return-to-chess-com

    Long story short, Hans can play on chess.com again and Magnus will play him if he gets paired OTB. What's not said is "we were wrong about Hans cheating." Which is telling.

    The downside of all this is that it shows you can be a high level player in chess, cheat, get caught cheating multiple times in events where there is a money pool, and nothing at all will really happen.

    There needs to be a venue where you can air your suspicion about other players without being worried about being sued for defamation.

  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Can’t be fun to face an opponent that has cheated before, probably several times. I guess they couldn’t prove he did it live? And maybe he didn’t?

    Regardless since he has cheated online before, he is a cheater. I don’t watch much chess, or play for that matter, so I don’t have any stake in this world. But cheating in any sport seems to me like it should be a once-and-you’re-out kind of thing. Since it’s so hard to prove. If you’ve done it once it shows what kind of person you are.

    PSN: Honkalot
  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Honk wrote: »
    Can’t be fun to face an opponent that has cheated before, probably several times. I guess they couldn’t prove he did it live? And maybe he didn’t?

    Regardless since he has cheated online before, he is a cheater. I don’t watch much chess, or play for that matter, so I don’t have any stake in this world. But cheating in any sport seems to me like it should be a once-and-you’re-out kind of thing. Since it’s so hard to prove. If you’ve done it once it shows what kind of person you are.

    That's my thoughts exactly, especially when you're a titled player.

    It is so hard to prove someone cheated OTB though. FIDE basically requires video evidence before they'll even consider it.

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    1b97Yqvl.png

    Same idea as the last two puzzles, white to move and mate in 2.

    This one is trickier than the others. Answer in spoilers please.

  • TarantioTarantio Registered User regular
    QG7 RxG6

    I feel like knowing that the mate is possible leads me to find things I never would in game. Fun puzzles, though.

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Tarantio wrote: »
    QG7 RxG6

    I feel like knowing that the mate is possible leads me to find things I never would in game. Fun puzzles, though.

    That's the idea behind doing puzzles like this.

    Also end game theory and patterns.

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular


    US Chess needs to get its fucking house in order.

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    So beyond youtube videos and watching twitch streams of much better chess streamers there is another way for someone, if so inclined, to learn more about aspects of chess. Whether that be the tactics of a chess games (ask me what a zwischenzug is, go on, I dare you), or the strategic elements behind openings (The Bogoljubow Defense isn't real... is it?), or how to win an endgame (okay I'm up a pawn, have my queen and two rooks and they don't have anything but a knight and 4 pawns this should be easy right?).

    Books! Infact it's almost a necessity to actually sit down and do some studying if you want to be able to play chess and aim for a four figure elo.

    So with that said I'm going to recommend one of my favorite opening books for the beginner and intermediate level players around here that want understand the logic behind openings. It's written in an easy to understand way and if you actually want to start selection a repertoire of openings then this is the best book to start with.

    https://www.amazon.com/FCO-Fundamental-Paul-Van-Sterren/dp/1906454132

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFasHcXz80Q

    Praggnanandhaa and Duda playing bullet chess without a chessboard.

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    You ever want to learn a Sicilian Defense line that does away with the vast majority of theory and allows you to get straight to the tactics and strategy?

    https://lichess.org/study/mruZ0Jwo/RG98AyDj

    The O'Kelly variation of the Sicilian Defense is a wonderful opening for a beginner looking to learn.

  • fedaykin666fedaykin666 Registered User regular
    edited September 2023
    Trace wrote: »
    You ever want to learn a Sicilian Defense line that does away with the vast majority of theory and allows you to get straight to the tactics and strategy?

    https://lichess.org/study/mruZ0Jwo/RG98AyDj

    The O'Kelly variation of the Sicilian Defense is a wonderful opening for a beginner looking to learn.

    If you will permit me to respectfully disagree, I think beginners should learn to fight for the centre, develop rapidly and castle and the open games are ideal for this. Italian game, two knights defence, Mueller attack, Evan's Gambit, Danish Gambit, Scotch gambit, Ruy Lopez this sort of classical logical chess.

    Yes there is a ton of theory but this doesn't really matter as their games will be decided by massive tactical oversights on both sides in any case and they will learn a lot about the logic of opening principles from playing these lines.

    I don't think trying to understand subtle sidelines of a sicilian trying to get an improved version of a variation they also have no clue about is a logical place to start. As well as if they keep playing it as they improve and face stronger opponents, they're eventually going to play against a lot of Alapins a tempo down, which is not joyful.

    Teaching children I think classical logical chess is particularly important, but I accept adult beginners have more agency in their learning and may want to study random stuff. And why not, if they are enjoying it and curious after all.

    ( I am an FM and chess coach who was self taught, got to 2300 FIDE playing absolute rubbish openings like the London snd Modern, struggling the whole time and wish I had a chess teacher who pushed me to learn logical openings fighting for an advantage. I feel playing only sidelines harmed my development.)

    fedaykin666 on
  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    I feel like it depends who you're playing against: friends, strangers, or computers. If it's friends or locals, then fundamentals is probably the best. If it's online strangers, you're going to be up against smurfs, cheaters, and grinders, so you probably need to learn tactics with a bit of math to them to avoid being scholar's mated or fried livered all the time before you can learn anything. If it's computers, then you might as well start memorizing sequences because what's the point otherwise.

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
  • marajimaraji Registered User regular
    edited September 2023
    Paladin wrote: »
    I feel like it depends who you're playing against: friends, strangers, or computers. If it's friends or locals, then fundamentals is probably the best. If it's online strangers, you're going to be up against smurfs, cheaters, and grinders, so you probably need to learn tactics with a bit of math to them to avoid being scholar's mated or fried livered all the time before you can learn anything. If it's computers, then you might as well start memorizing sequences because what's the point otherwise.

    I’m still pretty bad at the game but found that variation to be a pretty interesting read. I tend to use the Sicilian since (as was said) at the level I’m at a lot of players are either unable to exploit the development advantage or handle the pressure or complexity of the closed variation without blundering.

    Never really considered pushing a6 that early.

    But yeah for a true beginner it might just be frustrating.

    maraji on
  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    You ever want to learn a Sicilian Defense line that does away with the vast majority of theory and allows you to get straight to the tactics and strategy?

    https://lichess.org/study/mruZ0Jwo/RG98AyDj

    The O'Kelly variation of the Sicilian Defense is a wonderful opening for a beginner looking to learn.

    If you will permit me to respectfully disagree, I think beginners should learn to fight for the centre, develop rapidly and castle and the open games are ideal for this. Italian game, two knights defence, Mueller attack, Evan's Gambit, Danish Gambit, Scotch gambit, Ruy Lopez this sort of classical logical chess.

    Yes there is a ton of theory but this doesn't really matter as their games will be decided by massive tactical oversights on both sides in any case and they will learn a lot about the logic of opening principles from playing these lines.

    I don't think trying to understand subtle sidelines of a sicilian trying to get an improved version of a variation they also have no clue about is a logical place to start. As well as if they keep playing it as they improve and face stronger opponents, they're eventually going to play against a lot of Alapins a tempo down, which is not joyful.

    Teaching children I think classical logical chess is particularly important, but I accept adult beginners have more agency in their learning and may want to study random stuff. And why not, if they are enjoying it and curious after all.

    ( I am an FM and chess coach who was self taught, got to 2300 FIDE playing absolute rubbish openings like the London snd Modern, struggling the whole time and wish I had a chess teacher who pushed me to learn logical openings fighting for an advantage. I feel playing only sidelines harmed my development.)

    I mean there's a reason a 'main line' is called such. But I also subscribe to the Mikhail Tal philosophy about playing chess. I play it because I love it and I think it's fun to play. So yeah you're not wrong. I just think the O'Kelly variation is fun and wanted to share it. It's an opening a beginner can use because there's not much to it and it gets the idea of a6 into their heads and it doesn't exactly lock a player into any one plan.

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    US Chess Federation President Randy Bauer shows that he is indeed one of those special sorts of assholes that chess attracts.

    https://www.reddit.com/gallery/16ii7yd

    I expect this will pick up a bit of steam in the coming days.

  • fedaykin666fedaykin666 Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Trace wrote: »
    You ever want to learn a Sicilian Defense line that does away with the vast majority of theory and allows you to get straight to the tactics and strategy?

    https://lichess.org/study/mruZ0Jwo/RG98AyDj

    The O'Kelly variation of the Sicilian Defense is a wonderful opening for a beginner looking to learn.

    If you will permit me to respectfully disagree, I think beginners should learn to fight for the centre, develop rapidly and castle and the open games are ideal for this. Italian game, two knights defence, Mueller attack, Evan's Gambit, Danish Gambit, Scotch gambit, Ruy Lopez this sort of classical logical chess.

    Yes there is a ton of theory but this doesn't really matter as their games will be decided by massive tactical oversights on both sides in any case and they will learn a lot about the logic of opening principles from playing these lines.

    I don't think trying to understand subtle sidelines of a sicilian trying to get an improved version of a variation they also have no clue about is a logical place to start. As well as if they keep playing it as they improve and face stronger opponents, they're eventually going to play against a lot of Alapins a tempo down, which is not joyful.

    Teaching children I think classical logical chess is particularly important, but I accept adult beginners have more agency in their learning and may want to study random stuff. And why not, if they are enjoying it and curious after all.

    ( I am an FM and chess coach who was self taught, got to 2300 FIDE playing absolute rubbish openings like the London snd Modern, struggling the whole time and wish I had a chess teacher who pushed me to learn logical openings fighting for an advantage. I feel playing only sidelines harmed my development.)

    I mean there's a reason a 'main line' is called such. But I also subscribe to the Mikhail Tal philosophy about playing chess. I play it because I love it and I think it's fun to play. So yeah you're not wrong. I just think the O'Kelly variation is fun and wanted to share it. It's an opening a beginner can use because there's not much to it and it gets the idea of a6 into their heads and it doesn't exactly lock a player into any one plan.

    Absolutely and fair enough. My point is maybe just particularly kids could probably benefit from learning the Italian Game/ Two Knights with both colours as a first opening. The importance of development, quick castling, how to target the weakness on f7 are probably good early lessons and the moves themselves are very clear in purpose and easy to understand.

    When I was a kid, literally half of the junior tournaments were us immediately trying to kill each other on f7/f2!

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Trace wrote: »
    You ever want to learn a Sicilian Defense line that does away with the vast majority of theory and allows you to get straight to the tactics and strategy?

    https://lichess.org/study/mruZ0Jwo/RG98AyDj

    The O'Kelly variation of the Sicilian Defense is a wonderful opening for a beginner looking to learn.

    If you will permit me to respectfully disagree, I think beginners should learn to fight for the centre, develop rapidly and castle and the open games are ideal for this. Italian game, two knights defence, Mueller attack, Evan's Gambit, Danish Gambit, Scotch gambit, Ruy Lopez this sort of classical logical chess.

    Yes there is a ton of theory but this doesn't really matter as their games will be decided by massive tactical oversights on both sides in any case and they will learn a lot about the logic of opening principles from playing these lines.

    I don't think trying to understand subtle sidelines of a sicilian trying to get an improved version of a variation they also have no clue about is a logical place to start. As well as if they keep playing it as they improve and face stronger opponents, they're eventually going to play against a lot of Alapins a tempo down, which is not joyful.

    Teaching children I think classical logical chess is particularly important, but I accept adult beginners have more agency in their learning and may want to study random stuff. And why not, if they are enjoying it and curious after all.

    ( I am an FM and chess coach who was self taught, got to 2300 FIDE playing absolute rubbish openings like the London snd Modern, struggling the whole time and wish I had a chess teacher who pushed me to learn logical openings fighting for an advantage. I feel playing only sidelines harmed my development.)

    I mean there's a reason a 'main line' is called such. But I also subscribe to the Mikhail Tal philosophy about playing chess. I play it because I love it and I think it's fun to play. So yeah you're not wrong. I just think the O'Kelly variation is fun and wanted to share it. It's an opening a beginner can use because there's not much to it and it gets the idea of a6 into their heads and it doesn't exactly lock a player into any one plan.

    Absolutely and fair enough. My point is maybe just particularly kids could probably benefit from learning the Italian Game/ Two Knights with both colours as a first opening. The importance of development, quick castling, how to target the weakness on f7 are probably good early lessons and the moves themselves are very clear in purpose and easy to understand.

    When I was a kid, literally half of the junior tournaments were us immediately trying to kill each other on f7/f2!

    Oh yeah if it's a kid then that's a whole different thing entirely.

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