C/E6 5* characters also have a feel of "thanks for paying for my child's college fund, ok enjoy your gamebreaker". Like I'm not going to say if you drop that amount of cash that you deserve the power... but pretty much you deserve the power.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
Just baaaaarely hit 39 TB rank today, running out of stuff to do to hit 40 other than dailies and stuff that spends TB power.
I know I'm not supposed to farm relics until I hit TB 40, but is there any reliable way pre TB-40 to get the chest piece of the +Quantumn Damage relic set? My Seele would pop off with that completing the set.
C/E6 5* characters also have a feel of "thanks for paying for my child's college fund, ok enjoy your gamebreaker". Like I'm not going to say if you drop that amount of cash that you deserve the power... but pretty much you deserve the power.
You don't need to spend a penny, you can also get that as a f2p if you save your freebie peon income for 1.5 years. I'm not sure which of the two is crazier though.
Just baaaaarely hit 39 TB rank today, running out of stuff to do to hit 40 other than dailies and stuff that spends TB power.
I know I'm not supposed to farm relics until I hit TB 40, but is there any reliable way pre TB-40 to get the chest piece of the +Quantumn Damage relic set? My Seele would pop off with that completing the set.
Just baaaaarely hit 39 TB rank today, running out of stuff to do to hit 40 other than dailies and stuff that spends TB power.
I know I'm not supposed to farm relics until I hit TB 40, but is there any reliable way pre TB-40 to get the chest piece of the +Quantumn Damage relic set? My Seele would pop off with that completing the set.
No, I’d stick with 2 quantum set and 2 +atk set.
Tbh I got super lucky and like the 3rd run of the quantum one I got attack boots, so I just used my battle pass custom relic item to make the chest piece and I’m never farming that one again (until a year+ from now when I have the bandwidth to care about “perfect” substats)
Bunch of stuff being announced for 1.1 (spoiled just in case anyone cares)
Silverwolf first, Luocha second boo
No Sampo on any banner boo
4* characters and weapons on Luocha's banner look extremely good (Pela coming back already as well!)
Free 10-pull login event
Free Yukong confirmed
No PS5 version in sight (this is my shocked face)
Supposedly SU7 being introduced in 1.2, which probably means another relic set as well
Hmm, I want literally every single one of the upcoming 5* characters (Silver Wolf/Luocha/Kafka/Blade).
Obviously this is completely unfeasible without breaking the bank, so I figure the plan is, once the 1.1 banners arrive, to just start pulling with literally every bit of gacha currency as soon as I get it, and whenever I do eventually hit a limited 5* I'll be happy with whoever it is. Keep doing that for the duration of the 1.1-1.3 banners, see what it gets me (probably 1, maybe 2 if I sack out), then see who I feel like saving for on reruns.
At this point I think I'll be skipping Silver Wolf even though she seems cool. I don't need any of the 4* on her banner and there is too much good stuff coming behind. We'll see how well the willpower holds once gameplay starts dropping though (spoiler: it probably won't hold at all)
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My real dilemma now is whether its worth a few rolls for Jing's light cone assuming I have three more weeks to save for Luocha... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Edit 2:
oh my god, i am weak and rolled on the banner and managed to get the light cone in the first 10 pull plus two 4 stars, sooo lucky
Silver Wolf looks like a luxury unit so I'll think about if I want to skip for now or not. I like her character, but she'll rerun eventually. Was saving for Luocha but I got Welt going for Jing so Imaginary slot is filled and technically don't need a second healer when I have Gepard+LC, but then again I like the concept of a damaging healer plus he's got stripping built into his ultimate so annoying buffs go away. Also I really like his design.
Zero interest in Kafka next patch because horny is not a personality and Blade is meh because he seems like a typical edgelord type.
Regarding the patch after that though (Leaked unit spoilers follow)
Dan Heng [Destruction, Imaginary] and Fu Xuan [Preservation, Quantum] both seem interesting but I'll definitely wait until final information comes out before serious consideration.
Silver Wolf is going to be a difficult one to evaluate, I think. Just looking at her damage and her defense/resistance debuffs she looks good, but how valuable is the ability to add weaknesses? In theory if they add a Quantum healer in the future, you could roll an all-quantum team with Seele and Silver Wolf and just make every boss weak to it, consistently. That would be real strong for us basic people who aren't getting every single new 5* character. Debuffs in general are also nice for likes of Sushang, who burns through her buffs more quickly than other characters thanks to advancing her turns.
Silver Wolf is going to be a difficult one to evaluate, I think. Just looking at her damage and her defense/resistance debuffs she looks good, but how valuable is the ability to add weaknesses? In theory if they add a Quantum healer in the future, you could roll an all-quantum team with Seele and Silver Wolf and just make every boss weak to it, consistently. That would be real strong for us basic people who aren't getting every single new 5* character. Debuffs in general are also nice for likes of Sushang, who burns through her buffs more quickly than other characters thanks to advancing her turns.
seele/tingyung/asta/natasha on the A side
yanqing/serval/march/TBfire on the B side
i maybe should have put the healer on the B side lol. that aoe could be nasty but at least it's predictable. only 2 stars on it though, though I guess speed comes later obviously. dang, that incentivizes me to try to knock out floor 2 doesn't it, for the siren song of 60 jade.
oh lol i also got an achievement for having serval deal the final blow to her brother on that.
Just logging in, spending stamina on materials, logging off this week. Killing time until Silver Wolf, and even if I get her, it's just one update of story to distract me before returning to waiting for them to drop another damage dealer as good as Seele. And then hoping I have enough to even attempt to pull them.
Actually by that point in time we might be around the actual level content says you should have characters at, so there's a chance I can finally brute force things with free four star characters.
At this point I think I'll be skipping Silver Wolf even though she seems cool. I don't need any of the 4* on her banner and there is too much good stuff coming behind. We'll see how well the willpower holds once gameplay starts dropping though (spoiler: it probably won't hold at all)
Edit:
My real dilemma now is whether its worth a few rolls for Jing's light cone assuming I have three more weeks to save for Luocha... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Edit 2:
oh my god, i am weak and rolled on the banner and managed to get the light cone in the first 10 pull plus two 4 stars, sooo lucky
To be fair it is a VERY good LC for basically any Erudition character
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Jing's LC is absolutely fucking loaded with stats, even if it was just a huge amount of Crit DMG and a significant Skill/Ultimate damage boost.
MoC2 down, three stars total so I at least get the 60 jade. I don’t think I’m getting any more though. Neither boss is weak to lightning so that kind of negates half my dps right there. I’m really scraping the bottom of the barrel for xp books too; doing MoC with a 60 fire MC and a 50 March 7 is going to hit a hard limit real quick.
MoC2 down, three stars total so I at least get the 60 jade. I don’t think I’m getting any more though. Neither boss is weak to lightning so that kind of negates half my dps right there. I’m really scraping the bottom of the barrel for xp books too; doing MoC with a 60 fire MC and a 50 March 7 is going to hit a hard limit real quick.
Nice looks like i'm right behind you lol. gonna give that level a try later. intimidated by the wind horse one.
In other news, I decided to try to get better boots for my Nat so I tried doing the appropriate cavern once. It dropped one 5* SPD boots and another 5* HP boots for the healing set. I think there's something wrong with this universe, that's just not how things work normally.
too bad it wasn't the cowboy set but I don't think i'm ever going to delete any speed boots unless i'm playing this game long enough to be drowning in relics
too bad it wasn't the cowboy set but I don't think i'm ever going to delete any speed boots unless i'm playing this game long enough to be drowning in relics
Fast healer is pretty handy too. Besides being better at healing (obviously), it also means they are spamming their basic attack more which is great for skill point economy. And going over 120 SPD triggers the +8% ATK for the whole team on the SU HP relic set. So yeah, pretty happy.
Barring some extreme stat scaling for some characters, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want speed boots and energy regen rope on everybody. More speed equals more turns, period. And energy regen main stat rope is literally the only source of that stat. More energy means more ultimates, period.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
Barring some extreme stat scaling for some characters, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want speed boots and energy regen rope on everybody. More speed equals more turns, period. And energy regen main stat rope is literally the only source of that stat. More energy means more ultimates, period.
Energy regen rope only goes on supports. DPS will get their ultimates up without issue and more attack is going to be way more valuable than energy regen. Grimro's videos have all the calculations.
You can also have too much speed so it's not as clear cut as always going for speed, this isn't Epic Seven. Buffs tend to operate off turns, meaning if you're too fast you blow through your buffs and need to reapply them more often, using up even more skill points.
I was thinking about that when the video was describing yukongs buff… the next two attacks from the party is not a lot of attacks, and likely hits something like a healer using one for skill point generation.
It’s really going to push extra turns/advancing turns/skill+ult turns… Which I guess is fine and is what most hunt characters are doing anyway, it just feels like less uptime than ting (trade off for whole party access I guess)
Farmed some more relics for Jing and managed to hit 50.5% crit natively to activate the +15% ult and follow up damage on the rope set. Also sitting at +44% lightning damage from set and orb and 1900 atk. Feels decent even when half the set are crappy purples and the rope is a lvl 0 defense piece.
I also need to spend some time on Seele who is in all purples with 2pc musketeer/ 2 pc thief. 2200 atk natively at least so not terrible but could be a lot better.
... now I will spend 2 next weeks at least farming materials for ascending characters, light cones, traces, relics...
As everyone keeps telling me to save up on Fuel, this is gonna take a while.
Also, I decided some time ago to not go to the Xianzhou until 1.1 drops, so I can have more story content there, it is pretty disappointing to hear that there probably will not be any main plot continuation in the next update - I guess there is not much point in waiting and I may as well complete the story quests that are already there...
Farmed some more relics for Jing and managed to hit 50.5% crit natively to activate the +15% ult and follow up damage on the rope set. Also sitting at +44% lightning damage from set and orb and 1900 atk. Feels decent even when half the set are crappy purples and the rope is a lvl 0 defense piece.
I also need to spend some time on Seele who is in all purples with 2pc musketeer/ 2 pc thief. 2200 atk natively at least so not terrible but could be a lot better.
Note that Jing will hit 50% without any crit substats as long as he has a crit rate chest (and Inert Salsotto)
To elaborate, JY essentially gets 22% crit from traces (+10% for 2 turns after using a skill, which should always be up, along with 12% fully passive)
That, with 5% base, 8% from Salsotto and 32.4% chest gives him a rock solid 67.4% without any substats.
Um, ok? Those traces aren’t enabled until ascension 6 plus more farming and a 32.4% chest assumes a good gold drop and resources to max it out, none of which are facts in evidence. My 50.5% with substats I feel is pretty good for where we are in the game currently, not sure why you’re quoting me end game stat potential.
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edited May 27
Farming relics for substats is literally the endest of end game concerns
EDIT: Incidentally, aside from getting at least 1-2 decent sets of Knight of Purity Palace, I honestly just recommend Musketeer of Wild Wheat as the set to farm early on because it's good for everyone. Even if they don't care about Atk as much they want Speed.
Farming relics for substats is literally the endest of end game concerns
EDIT: Incidentally, aside from getting at least 1-2 decent sets of Knight of Purity Palace, I honestly just recommend Musketeer of Wild Wheat as the set to farm early on because it's good for everyone. Even if they don't care about Atk as much they want Speed.
Imo there’s a pretty big difference between farming for minor substat improvements in endgame optimized gear versus scraping together a barely functional set to hit a key breakpoint, but you do you.
yanqing/tingyun/asta/fire MC handled the horse side super easily
seele/serval/march/natasha had some trouble on the second boss that summons the exploding hands. non-ascended serval definitely got lost to double exploding fists right at the end but still I only needed one star from the level to get the sweet loot.
I definitely think I could have cleared both of these before i hit TB50 but i basically only unlocked them the same day as i hit that. oh well, that's just personal bragging challenge. Anyway, probably won't get much further this reset, but interested to push hard next week, it seems like most f2p/single healer accounts could get to around floor 6 in the first couple of weeks before the lack of sustain caught up.
it's cool this mode exists, otherwise i'd just be logging in for exp farming until the patch.
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I know I'm not supposed to farm relics until I hit TB 40, but is there any reliable way pre TB-40 to get the chest piece of the +Quantumn Damage relic set? My Seele would pop off with that completing the set.
You don't need to spend a penny, you can also get that as a f2p if you save your freebie peon income for 1.5 years. I'm not sure which of the two is crazier though.
No, I’d stick with 2 quantum set and 2 +atk set.
Tbh I got super lucky and like the 3rd run of the quantum one I got attack boots, so I just used my battle pass custom relic item to make the chest piece and I’m never farming that one again (until a year+ from now when I have the bandwidth to care about “perfect” substats)
No Sampo on any banner boo
4* characters and weapons on Luocha's banner look extremely good (Pela coming back already as well!)
Free 10-pull login event
Free Yukong confirmed
No PS5 version in sight (this is my shocked face)
Supposedly SU7 being introduced in 1.2, which probably means another relic set as well
Obviously this is completely unfeasible without breaking the bank, so I figure the plan is, once the 1.1 banners arrive, to just start pulling with literally every bit of gacha currency as soon as I get it, and whenever I do eventually hit a limited 5* I'll be happy with whoever it is. Keep doing that for the duration of the 1.1-1.3 banners, see what it gets me (probably 1, maybe 2 if I sack out), then see who I feel like saving for on reruns.
Edit:
My real dilemma now is whether its worth a few rolls for Jing's light cone assuming I have three more weeks to save for Luocha... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Edit 2:
oh my god, i am weak and rolled on the banner and managed to get the light cone in the first 10 pull plus two 4 stars, sooo lucky
Zero interest in Kafka next patch because horny is not a personality and Blade is meh because he seems like a typical edgelord type.
Regarding the patch after that though (Leaked unit spoilers follow)
Unreleased character info:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZDjUr69jLsz6HyImga17JcMMte_GfnSz
Kit sounds almost identical to Natasha, really.
Asta eidolons are all very good and make her Atk buff stacking run a lot smoother, and Dan Heng E4 in particular helps him out a lot
Also, Silver Wolf herself has unique debuffing mechanics that we're unlikely to see again for awhile if at all
seele/tingyung/asta/natasha on the A side
yanqing/serval/march/TBfire on the B side
i maybe should have put the healer on the B side lol. that aoe could be nasty but at least it's predictable. only 2 stars on it though, though I guess speed comes later obviously. dang, that incentivizes me to try to knock out floor 2 doesn't it, for the siren song of 60 jade.
oh lol i also got an achievement for having serval deal the final blow to her brother on that.
Actually by that point in time we might be around the actual level content says you should have characters at, so there's a chance I can finally brute force things with free four star characters.
To be fair it is a VERY good LC for basically any Erudition character
Nice looks like i'm right behind you lol. gonna give that level a try later. intimidated by the wind horse one.
Get your jades while they're hot!
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In other news, I decided to try to get better boots for my Nat so I tried doing the appropriate cavern once. It dropped one 5* SPD boots and another 5* HP boots for the healing set. I think there's something wrong with this universe, that's just not how things work normally.
Fast healer is pretty handy too. Besides being better at healing (obviously), it also means they are spamming their basic attack more which is great for skill point economy. And going over 120 SPD triggers the +8% ATK for the whole team on the SU HP relic set. So yeah, pretty happy.
Energy regen rope only goes on supports. DPS will get their ultimates up without issue and more attack is going to be way more valuable than energy regen. Grimro's videos have all the calculations.
You can also have too much speed so it's not as clear cut as always going for speed, this isn't Epic Seven. Buffs tend to operate off turns, meaning if you're too fast you blow through your buffs and need to reapply them more often, using up even more skill points.
It’s really going to push extra turns/advancing turns/skill+ult turns… Which I guess is fine and is what most hunt characters are doing anyway, it just feels like less uptime than ting (trade off for whole party access I guess)
I also need to spend some time on Seele who is in all purples with 2pc musketeer/ 2 pc thief. 2200 atk natively at least so not terrible but could be a lot better.
Les' fuckin go
... now I will spend 2 next weeks at least farming materials for ascending characters, light cones, traces, relics...
As everyone keeps telling me to save up on Fuel, this is gonna take a while.
Also, I decided some time ago to not go to the Xianzhou until 1.1 drops, so I can have more story content there, it is pretty disappointing to hear that there probably will not be any main plot continuation in the next update - I guess there is not much point in waiting and I may as well complete the story quests that are already there...
Note that Jing will hit 50% without any crit substats as long as he has a crit rate chest (and Inert Salsotto)
That, with 5% base, 8% from Salsotto and 32.4% chest gives him a rock solid 67.4% without any substats.
Um, ok? Those traces aren’t enabled until ascension 6 plus more farming and a 32.4% chest assumes a good gold drop and resources to max it out, none of which are facts in evidence. My 50.5% with substats I feel is pretty good for where we are in the game currently, not sure why you’re quoting me end game stat potential.
EDIT: Incidentally, aside from getting at least 1-2 decent sets of Knight of Purity Palace, I honestly just recommend Musketeer of Wild Wheat as the set to farm early on because it's good for everyone. Even if they don't care about Atk as much they want Speed.
Imo there’s a pretty big difference between farming for minor substat improvements in endgame optimized gear versus scraping together a barely functional set to hit a key breakpoint, but you do you.
swapped the team slightly for the boss weaknesses
yanqing/tingyun/asta/fire MC handled the horse side super easily
seele/serval/march/natasha had some trouble on the second boss that summons the exploding hands. non-ascended serval definitely got lost to double exploding fists right at the end but still I only needed one star from the level to get the sweet loot.
I definitely think I could have cleared both of these before i hit TB50 but i basically only unlocked them the same day as i hit that. oh well, that's just personal bragging challenge. Anyway, probably won't get much further this reset, but interested to push hard next week, it seems like most f2p/single healer accounts could get to around floor 6 in the first couple of weeks before the lack of sustain caught up.
it's cool this mode exists, otherwise i'd just be logging in for exp farming until the patch.