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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I like that your team was all the shorties

  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    I like that your team was all the shorties

    I swear it was a coincidence.

    You stay out of this, Hu Tao.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    If Fu Xuan doesn't wanna be treated like a kid she should choose a favorite drink that is not literally tea with sugar, sugar, and even more sugar.

    Also Bailu needs to stop "prescribing" sweet tea to her because they're both gremlins.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    That's the kind of coffee my wife likes and she's very much not a kid.

  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    Meanwhile, new companion quests for Lynx turns out to be a lore apocalypse, because it reveals that Pela is 16, which when put together with everything we have learnt so far about her and her relationships with other characters makes everyone go
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    because quite frankly, this does not make any amount of sense, and runs on pure unadulterated anime logic

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited September 2023
    Based on her achievements Serval should be in her late 30s or early 40s but is definitely in her 20s at most.

    Best not to put much thought into any of it.

    Shadowfire on
  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Something I've felt that most sci-fi properties never really touch on is that when you're dealing with multiple planets, all of which have obviously different rotation times around their suns...

    What exactly is a year anyways?

    The only property I can think of that even remotely tries to address it is Mass Effect, where if you view a planet's stats, it'll actually translate that planet's year into Earth's equivalent.

    "The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    edited September 2023
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Based on her achievements Serval should be in her late 30s or early 40s but is definitely in her 20s at most.

    Best not to put much thought into any of it.

    The only explanation that makes any semblance of sense - especially based on what we see in the underground - is that Belobog believes that secondary education or a job (E: possibly and a job, given Pela) starts at about 14 for above-worlders and had child labor in the underground.

    Like most weird, dark implications in a Mihoyo game, this will go totally unexamined.

    Auralynx on
  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    Alternatively, Pela is just THAT amazing to be able to take part in military operations when 10 years old, while also writing books and playing in the rock bands, who can tell?

    (Definitely not the writers)

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    This is also a planet that's been frozen for so long it literally forgot space travel existed and that it was once capable of it. There's only been one functioning city during that entire time fighting a constant war against Fragmentum monsters, so honestly I would not be surprised at literal children being in said military if they're able to offer results when the workforce is constantly depleting.

    Also now that the planet is starting to unfreeze the IRSIPC is here to claim back taxes like the parasitic capitalism religion it is.

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    buddy at 16 she's already too old to save the world or fight god, so she has to take a boring desk job as the head of military intelligence. don't you all know how the anime job market works?

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    Alternatively, Pela is just THAT amazing to be able to take part in military operations when 10 years old, while also writing books and playing in the rock bands, who can tell?

    (Definitely not the writers)

    She's old enough to drunk text you, at minimum

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    I like how if you have Blade it's never him texting you, it's the other Stellaron Hunters stealing his phone periodically

  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    Investment finally paid off... Did a bunch of quests I was neglecting and the jades rolled out both Fu and her sig LC.

  • GarickGarick Registered User regular
    Ugh, decided to go all in on Fu and got a big FU. 110 pulls netted me Yanqing and E1 Lynx... which I guess will end up being my new defensive char since I'm outta jades.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Cleared Swarm 4 almost by accident doing the Trotter Hunt objective.

    Yanqing gets real, real rude with deep Hunt and the Aftertaste suite.

  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    Oh hey, Honkai Impact 3rd is going to space (Mars, for now) for Part 2.

    We move one step closer to a wretched hive of interconnected continuity!

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    They already spent awhile on the moon at the end of part 1

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    BB told them to fuck off

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Well the new god had to live on the moon for awhile, because her power would be too much for Earth to handle

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Yeah I know about Archetype Earth's deal

  • SaldonasSaldonas See you space cowboy...Registered User regular
    I know nothing about the other Honkai games, but I've been curious. I think I briefly entertained the idea of trying out Honkai Impact 3rd but the combat seemed weird from what I'd seen. Plus trying to get in to a mature gacha is kinda yikes.

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  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Did some math and if you'd start from nothing, building a 4* and a 4* LC from zero to max (level 10 traces) would take about 4 weeks. That's without relics. Obviously there's all sorts of other sources for things, especially cash and xp but still it feels like pretty steep cost compared to many other gacha games I've tried.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    I think that's only if you max out their traces, and you probably shouldn't do that. Diminishing returns and all that. The only person I maxed out completely is Kafka because I'm a simp.

  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited September 2023
    Saldonas wrote: »
    I know nothing about the other Honkai games, but I've been curious. I think I briefly entertained the idea of trying out Honkai Impact 3rd but the combat seemed weird from what I'd seen. Plus trying to get in to a mature gacha is kinda yikes.

    Of the Mihoyo games, HI3 is the only one I've kept up with playing daily. I started it after Star Rail but don't feel like I'm screwed by starting so late. IMO it's the most fun and has the best endgame content. I'm not big on turn-based combat, though.

    Starts off rough, though; the story, storytelling, and gameplay design for early characters and fights versus the design for later characters and fights is wildly different. Early characters are simple button mashers going through a barebones plot, later characters/storytelling/cutscenes/etc are more complex than anything in the other two (so far, anyway. I'm kind of surprised they're not coming out the gate on Star Rail with similar 'basically ten minutes of anime with an original vocal track' type cutscenes. Genshin cutscenes are getting a little more involved lately, at least).

    You can just go through the story with what they give you for free, since the early stuff is trivial compared to anything you get for free and as soon as the story starts getting decent they start having you do everything with trial characters relevant to the events occurring instead of your own.

    Kamar on
  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I think that's only if you max out their traces, and you probably shouldn't do that. Diminishing returns and all that. The only person I maxed out completely is Kafka because I'm a simp.

    Yeah, I usually just go for lvl 8 traces. It takes a few days off from the 4 weeks but it still feels like building a character takes a long time in this.

    For Kafka I actually got her Ult to lvl 10 too since that defines her DoT and it scales really well - rank 8 is 225% ATK while rank 10 is 290% ATK. On the other hand Luocha's traces are like lvl 6/7 even though I use him all the time, he just heals so much there seems to be little point in leveling those or adding a piddly few points of damage to his ult.

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    maybe that math is correct but it doesn't really feel like it takes more than a few days to get a character up to useable.

    traces at 6, lvl 70, LC at 60 or 70, hodgepodge relics is really my baseline and feels useable even in MoC.

    Maybe it's that I'm at a point where I'm never really starting at zero. Like with DHIL I feel like it took about a week to be playable and two to be powered up, I burned all my stamina on ascension mats and then leveling books, bought the herta store LC, then maxed that, bought out the starlight store of his trace mats for the month, then just used all my stam on trace mats and wastelander gear which i'd never farmed before, with a resin on crit rate chest.

  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    It helps a lot once you get a bit ahead of the curve. Like, it's been a week since the last banner came out, but I have both Fu Xuan and Lynx fully ascended and with good traces (certainly not maxed, but as discussed, they do not need to be). I might've burned some fuel, but the main reason is just because I already had enough exp stockpiled, and they were able to borrow relics and light cones from other characters too. So I really just had to beat some stuff for ascension materials and traces, and about a week is all that took.

  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    The only way to "get ahead of the curve" is to either spend cold, hard cash on the BPs or reduce the number of characters you are building. There's no magic trick to it. Eventually anybody playing the game actively will hit a point where building more 4*s gives very diminishing returns and materials will pile up but as a f2p player I'm certainly not there yet. Been working on Lynx and she'll be ready in a week or so, then I can save some xp/cash for the next patch and new 5*s I'll be getting.

  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    When I say "the curve", I'm just talking about "the rate that you get new characters". There's a huge initial hurdle of building up all these characters who were in the game at launch, but eventually you will get everyone you care about up to speed, and then you will only really need to spend time building whatever new characters you pick up. F2P players will be able to stay ahead of that curve, but it will certainly take them longer to get there.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Yeah I mean.. I've been in that position in Genshin for well over a year now, probably closer to two, the only thing that holds me back is new characters that require a brand new boss' materials. Honkai will be the same eventually.

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    You don't just randomly get trace or ascension materials though. Sometimes an event will hand out a few for the latest character, sure. That's about it. You have to go out of your way to specifically farm them up every time. This is assuming you passively pick up all the experience mats for characters and light cones, and pulled the right light cone in the first place, as you can't even farm light cones anywhere. Even the currency to buy the 'free' ones is time gated.

    That's not even getting into the gear grind. One resin per event that can still roll four garbage stats barely makes a dent.

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  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Took Lin-chan for a spin in SU and felt like her healing was pretty weak (lvl 6 traces, 4700 hp, +10% healing) but when I looked at the numbers vs Nat she seems to have pretty close the same sort of healing output potential. My Natasha just has higher +healing as Lynx is using ERR rope, HP chest and Nat a HP rope and a Healing chest. Lynx's E1 would help a fair bit I think.

    On the other hand my short experiment on using Lynx's skill on Clara was a huge success, Clara was getting her ass kicked almost 100% of the time.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    So, I might be reading too much into some of the Lynx interactions and other Belobog things, but it's starting to look less like Sampo is a zany weirdo and more like he's homeless and possibly mentally ill.

    Unintentional subtext strikes again!

  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    So, I might be reading too much into some of the Lynx interactions and other Belobog things, but it's starting to look less like Sampo is a zany weirdo and more like he's homeless and possibly mentally ill.

    Unintentional subtext strikes again!

    I'm still thinking he'll be the first Elation character. Or maybe he's actually the Aeon of Elation itself.

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    So, I might be reading too much into some of the Lynx interactions and other Belobog things, but it's starting to look less like Sampo is a zany weirdo and more like he's homeless and possibly mentally ill.

    Unintentional subtext strikes again!

    I'm still thinking he'll be the first Elation character. Or maybe he's actually the Aeon of Elation itself.

    there's gonna be a throwaway line somewhere like "Aha, it's Sampo" and every lore person is going to release a 3 hour video explaining it.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Finished March's new quest.
    It's fairly evident to me that the reason March's "origin" is inside the ice block is because that's when she, as in the person known as March 7, was born. The reason the Garden is trying to convince her not to seek old memories is because if she learns those old memories then "March 7" will die in the process and whoever is left afterwards will be someone entirely different. The clue is in the name after all, in the movie the protagonist is literally a different person after the memory alteration compared to before, and for the original person to be restored the new one would have to die.

    The conclusion that the memories were sealed by an Aeon indicates that whoever the original person was they were both important enough and potentially enough of a threat to warrant direct action from an Aeon. They don't often involve themselves with mortals like that, even Lan doesn't act based on the need of the Xianzhou. He's attacking the Abundance and if there's other things around then too bad because he only sees his enemy.

  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited September 2023
    lol, luck be a fickle mistress.

    After losing the 50/50 and having to roughly hit pity for Fu, less than 5 pulls later, I reset my 50/50 stock on the gold ticket pulls by pulling my first Welt. Now I have every 5* from the basic banner except for Clara. Time to go back to saving for next banner.

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  • SaldonasSaldonas See you space cowboy...Registered User regular
    Behold!
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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    Boy that Huohuo announcement came out of nowhere. Not that she wasn't leaked, personally I did not know that she was coming up. Certainly different than when Jingliu and Topaz were officially announced.

    Very basic description of what she does, based on an old leak that may very well have changed:
    Her skill heals the whole party, and her talent adds a heal over time effect to the party when she uses her skill. Her ultimate regenerates energy for the whole party and increases their attack, and her talent regenerates more energy over time after she uses her ultimate.

    I haven't seen any numbers, so I don't know if the attack boost and energy generation is enough to basically treat her like a Harmony character.

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