I'm not saying that it isn't unreasonable to span a series across multiple console generations, that happens all the time.
My problem is I consider it a single game, because it is, and they've just split it into three (well, god knows how many actual DLCs this thing is going to have).
It would be like having Elden Ring end after you take down Radahn or something and then you pick up on the next console.
I'm not saying that it isn't unreasonable to span a series across multiple console generations, that happens all the time.
My problem is I consider it a single game, because it is, and they've just split it into three (well, god knows how many actual DLCs this thing is going to have).
It would be like having Elden Ring end after you take down Radahn or something and then you pick up on the next console.
You can conceptualize it as one game if you'd like but... it's literally three different ones. With new assets, game systems, areas, playable characters, etc. in each one. The DLC for part 1 already did some very different things with the combat system.
I'm not saying that it isn't unreasonable to span a series across multiple console generations, that happens all the time.
My problem is I consider it a single game, because it is, and they've just split it into three (well, god knows how many actual DLCs this thing is going to have).
It would be like having Elden Ring end after you take down Radahn or something and then you pick up on the next console.
You can conceptualize it as one game if you'd like but... it's literally three different ones. With new assets, game systems, areas, playable characters, etc. in each one. The DLC for part 1 already did some very different things with the combat system.
It certainly feels like Starcraft 2 which was one game released in 3 parts.
I mean it’s not 1 game because there wasn’t a full game they had that they were cutting into parts. When part 1 came out all that was done was part 1, and it was never intended to be any other way. As has been said before you can see it as one game if you like, but just because it was based on 1 game doesn’t mean the remake had to be, the remake was always going to be multiple games. That was their avowed plan from the start and they made it clear well before the game came out.
I mean did you really think part 3 would come out on ps4 in like 5 years? You can feel annoyed by that but they weren’t pulling any sort of bait and switch. They were always clear from the start that the remake would be a series of games
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I mean it’s not 1 game because there wasn’t a full game they had that they were cutting into parts. When part 1 came out all that was done was part 1, and it was never intended to be any other way. As has been said before you can see it as one game if you like, but just because it was based on 1 game doesn’t mean the remake had to be, the remake was always going to be multiple games. That was their avowed plan from the start and they made it clear well before the game came out.
I mean did you really think part 3 would come out on ps4 in like 5 years? You can feel annoyed by that but they weren’t pulling any sort of bait and switch. They were always clear from the start that the remake would be a series of games
While I generally agree, I do want to quibble a bit on that because it was initially just a remake and I (and many others) assumed it was one game. Then they announced later after it was initially revealed that it was going to be multiple games. Up until just now I assumed it was 2, but you're saying 3 and that shows how much information about it has changed and what someone may/may not have kept up with.
On the other hand, I'm tired of "next gen" games being held back by requirements of working on PS4/Xbone. The less wandering through narrow corridors or watching someone do an animation to disguise a loading screen the better.
I feel like you can get deep into the weeds here when it comes to classifying this kind of shit. Is FFVII one game... or one story. Can a story be told in multiple parts? Is the likes of The Lord of the Rings saga one story told in 3 parts, or 3 stories period?
But yes, multiple game development time, plus console generational time, your timelines ain't gonna sync up perfectly. There's a real world possibility part 3's release may end up scraping against the release of the PS6. And if it does, you know people will be asking/demanding it to be ported to that.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
I'm personally not a fan of one story being told across multiple video games. Books are different. I suppose it's a track record thing. While sometimes books mess up, I generally trust that they'll keep up with and complete the story at a decent pace, they make good use of the space/time they use, and my book-reading technology (aka eyes or even ears) won't be obsolete by the time the next one comes out.
Movies, for example, can work but they get less of a pass because studios have shown they'll split things up when they don't need to for the monies.
Video games are just unproven or worse across all those axes.
But that's my opinion, it's subjective and it's cool if others don't feel the same. I mean you'd be wrong but still
I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with the concept of telling a singular story across multiple games. But if you're coming at it from the angle of game development, and the mountain of examples of publishers thinking they're doing a trilogy, but then the first game bombs and the entire project is aborted, leaving a worthless unfinished story? Yeah, you are absolutely not wrong on that.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
To expand on my earlier comment, all single game story split across multiple games that I can recall end up being a bit of a disjointed mess.
Xenogears/Xenosaga games would take so long to make that the full series would almost certainly end up a bit of a mess. What did get released had massive plot changes, style, and focus changes from game to game.
Starcraft 2 also suffered from this.
Now, with the right team and writers behind things I could have more confidence in the project. CBU3 just pulled this off in a 10 year story. But FFR is a Nomura project to my knowledge and I have seen what he has made of the Kingdom Heart gods and it does not fill me with confidence no matter how good an individual entry may be.
I'm pretty sure they said the first game was going to be just Midgar like, right away when they announced it. It seems longer because fans had been chanting "FF7 Remake" since literally before the PS3 launched, so the hype train had already been running for years.
They also canceled the original contracted out version of the ff7 remake that was being done largely at a third party developer and remade the remake in house under Nomura's direction, sometime between the initial announcement and when it actually came out.
I'm not sure if that should make you more or less sure about the reliability of the continuations actually existing someday. It's definitely had a rocky development road so far.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
It came out universally praised, and somehow managed to be both faithful to the original and have a ton of new content that didn't feel out of place, so I think it was definitely the right move.
Also, even my favorite multiple game story(Digital Devil Saga) had a rocky development cycle, with one of the writers and the project lead leaving midway through(Satomi Tadashi and Cozy Okada, who aren't even credited), which is why 1 & 2 are so tonally different.
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
edited May 30
Yea if it were actually FF7 chopped up then that would be the case.
But as is, it would be the same as saying Mass Effect is just one game chopped into 3 which isn't really something I've seen people say. As each game is a full dev cycle using the better technology and knowledge than the last.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
Well, FF7 already has a perfectly good outline set for them, all they have to do is treat it like they did part 1: hit all the key points, and flesh out things whenever and however they can.
For instance, I'd be all for seeing more of the Weapons than just having them attack then getting blown away like Sapphire.
I mean it’s not 1 game because there wasn’t a full game they had that they were cutting into parts. When part 1 came out all that was done was part 1, and it was never intended to be any other way. As has been said before you can see it as one game if you like, but just because it was based on 1 game doesn’t mean the remake had to be, the remake was always going to be multiple games. That was their avowed plan from the start and they made it clear well before the game came out.
I mean did you really think part 3 would come out on ps4 in like 5 years? You can feel annoyed by that but they weren’t pulling any sort of bait and switch. They were always clear from the start that the remake would be a series of games
I'm going to stick with feeling a little conned, because they release the first part on one system, then the subsequent DLC and installments were locked behind the PS5.
To use the StarCraft 2 analogy, you wouldn't have had a problem with getting the Terran campaign on your PS4 and then Zerg and Protoss on the PS5? The Terran release had a full campaign and multiplayer after all.
It's not a direct comparison, but I think the spirit is the same.
FF7R is one game, split into three parts, that if you played at launch requires you now to spend $500 to access the second part and given how long this is all taking I am not confident that the third doesn't arrive until the PS6.
It sucks!
I am in the business of saving lives.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited May 30
Folks have been arguing how much value = game for a while now. To the point where you just have to make that decision on your own.
It would be one thing if SE lied but they didn't. They said from the jump that Part 1 would be Midgar and it would be expanded enough to be a game in its own right.
And I think they did that.
But if that is an issue for you you can always wait for a sale(usually the previous game gets a big discount when the new one is coming out) or just wait for the compilation that will no doubt come out after it's completed.
And half way through the next generational console launched...
And only after the Terran release was work finally started on the Zerg and Protoss campaigns...
And each of those took 3-4 years to make in sequence...
...Yeah, I guess I wouldn't really have a problem.
I think best case scenario is that part 3 gets released in 2027. And that's assuming there are no developmental issues... and may I remind you of the dang company we're talking about here. Are you honestly expecting anybody to be releasing brand new PS4 games in 2027?
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
I mean it’s not 1 game because there wasn’t a full game they had that they were cutting into parts. When part 1 came out all that was done was part 1, and it was never intended to be any other way. As has been said before you can see it as one game if you like, but just because it was based on 1 game doesn’t mean the remake had to be, the remake was always going to be multiple games. That was their avowed plan from the start and they made it clear well before the game came out.
I mean did you really think part 3 would come out on ps4 in like 5 years? You can feel annoyed by that but they weren’t pulling any sort of bait and switch. They were always clear from the start that the remake would be a series of games
I'm going to stick with feeling a little conned, because they release the first part on one system, then the subsequent DLC and installments were locked behind the PS5.
To use the StarCraft 2 analogy, you wouldn't have had a problem with getting the Terran campaign on your PS4 and then Zerg and Protoss on the PS5? The Terran release had a full campaign and multiplayer after all.
It's not a direct comparison, but I think the spirit is the same.
FF7R is one game, split into three parts, that if you played at launch requires you now to spend $500 to access the second part and given how long this is all taking I am not confident that the third doesn't arrive until the PS6.
It sucks!
New games eventually stop coming out on older hardware. Was Halo 3 a scam because you had to buy an Xbox 360 to play it? That's just kind of how following video games works.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited May 30
If I had to guess Part 2 will be out next year and it's probably further along than we think.
But FFXVI is about to come out and they want to focus on that.
So I'm guessing it'll be something like
23 - FFXVI
24 - FF7R2
25 - KH4
26 or 27 - FFXVII
27 or 28 - FF7R3
If I had to guess Part 2 will be out next year and it's probably further along than we think.
But FFXVI is about to come out and they want to focus on that.
So I'm guessing it'll be something like
23 - FFXVI
24 - FF7R2
25 - KH4
26 or 27 - FFXVII
27 or 28 - FF7R3
No chance at all for FF17 on that timeline, the rest is feasible.
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
They actually already said FF7: Rebirth is this winter(which can be early 2024) so we already know that it is very far along and not that far off.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited May 30
Maybe, maybe not. SE seems to want to turn their image of taking forever on games around and FFXVI is coming out in a relatively quick fashion for them given that there was a pandemic that basically slowed down the production for everyone.
And I don't see them switching to a new engine which has been the biggest problem they had for the last few games.
To put things into perspective 12 to 13 was 5 years. Which at the time was a long time for a new FF. 13 to 15 was 7 years and you know that game's production was everywhere.
So I'm banking on about 4 years for 17 but no more than 5.
Thing is 16 coming out can largely be attributed to Yoshi-P's skill at project timeline management, however there's no guarantee he'd want to take up 17 next and I don't trust anyone else in SE to handle it in nearly so well if he doesn't.
I'm personally not a fan of one story being told across multiple video games. Books are different. I suppose it's a track record thing. While sometimes books mess up, I generally trust that they'll keep up with and complete the story at a decent pace, they make good use of the space/time they use, and my book-reading technology (aka eyes or even ears) won't be obsolete by the time the next one comes out.
Movies, for example, can work but they get less of a pass because studios have shown they'll split things up when they don't need to for the monies.
Video games are just unproven or worse across all those axes.
But that's my opinion, it's subjective and it's cool if others don't feel the same. I mean you'd be wrong but still
Seems Joshua actually had a different VA that went through puberty and they had to switch. Unfortunate for the first kid!
And also Ben Starr originally was auditioning for a side role with like 10 lines. And they had him try out Clives and he got it. That must've been a great feeling especially since he's an FF fan.
I'm exactly the sort of language nerd that loves this kind of thing, and I also find Roger's mostly deadpan delivery very entertaining, but if you're not super interested in minute differences in translation this might not be for you. I shared it with a former colleague (and translator) and she really hated what she thought was an overly arrogant dismissal of the original translator's efforts. Also, Tim Roger's style is characterized by relating what he's reviewing with the experiences he either had at the time or can relate to the text of the game, and the end of the review just drops a bombshell of an experience he had with a friend's suicide on you. I wasn't prepared for that.
I haven't yet played the Beacause translation, but I want to before FFVII: Rebirth comes out. I'll probably do that closer to its release date since FFXVI is right around the corner. I'm trying to wrap up my ongoing playthroughs of Elden Ring and God of War before it releases because I think that's going to consume me for a few months. And also I imagine getting used to DMC combat is going to invalidate my muscle memory with other action games.
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Those videos were so fucking good. Got a little emotional at the end too. One of my favorite video series on YouTube honestly.
Ff7 has led to a lot of my favorite content honestly.
Those videos were so fucking good. Got a little emotional at the end too. One of my favorite video series on YouTube honestly.
Ff7 has led to a lot of my favorite content honestly.
I harped on the translation differences in FFVI a lot, but they're just as many with FFVII. Most, if not all, of the expanded characterization we saw in FFVIIR for Cloud, Barret, Tifa, Aerith, and the rest was present in the original Japanese, and cut in the English translation for time, memory limitations, or a general lack of expertise. I think it's a crime that Square hasn't released a new translation for the original game considering how many times they've rereleased it.
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edited June 2
For those who enjoy a bit of speculation and rides on the hype train:
There are a bunch of media folks doing the coy talk about a game you are playing that you can't reveal yet thing. And the vibes are EXTREMELY positive.
We can't confirm for sure what game they are talking about other than knowing that these were all popping up during the review window and have confirmed that review copies are out, have people on common leaker report places saying the reviewers are very impressed.
And of course some we know for sure are talking about FF16 because they say things like "see you on the 22nd". Which in turn makes some of the other uncertain ones more likely to be the same.
One person mentioned how they were brought to tears to the point their boss came to check on them(lol), someone responded to that saying "if it's what I think it is I have had the same experience", another person said "I thought TotK was for sure goty but I don't know anymore"
I'm hoping it'll be good. Already got the 26th booked off for it (and I have the 23rd off because I work 4x10s). Can't wait Should hopefully be done with FFX-2 by then, as well.
I'm hoping it'll be good. Already got the 26th booked off for it (and I have the 23rd off because I work 4x10s). Can't wait Should hopefully be done with FFX-2 by then, as well.
Yea I've got the 23rd off and the next weekend is a 4-day for 4th of July. Hells yea!
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Kai_SanCommonly known as Klineshrike!Registered Userregular
Those videos were so fucking good. Got a little emotional at the end too. One of my favorite video series on YouTube honestly.
Ff7 has led to a lot of my favorite content honestly.
I harped on the translation differences in FFVI a lot, but they're just as many with FFVII. Most, if not all, of the expanded characterization we saw in FFVIIR for Cloud, Barret, Tifa, Aerith, and the rest was present in the original Japanese, and cut in the English translation for time, memory limitations, or a general lack of expertise. I think it's a crime that Square hasn't released a new translation for the original game considering how many times they've rereleased it.
When the original rumors of a FF7 remake came about, I hoped for a minor graphical increase, but a much more robust translation. Legit the only reason I wanted them to redo it.
And yeah, with how many times they rereleased the original on places other than PS1, they could have just spent a bit of time on a legit translation.
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
Alright I haven't watched this because I don't wanna see too many moves:
But people seem to be really excited by it. Really showcasing the strategy and options in combat. Also further showing that no, it's not just DMC. Which I said before because a game with a whole different control scheme and RPG elements is already going to feel fairly different. Especially given how much of DMCs feel comes from the very particular control scheme.
But yea, take a look if that interests you! I can't really speak to what else is in there though haha.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited June 6
Hmm...not sure what you mean by that but a number of the abilities in the game are straight up DMC abilities.
Also DMC has had progression trees for like a while.
Like I'm sure FFXVI is its own game but the influences are fairly obvious.
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
edited June 7
If you were trying to convince someone what they just watched wasn't heavily influenced by DMC, that was not the video to do it as I watch multiple abilities straight from DMC being used here - right down to some of the entire combos*. It's a nice blend of Nero and Dante in some of that footage. If you're going to make a character action game though, why not pinch from one of the best ever made? That's just good sense.
*Like the counter, smack with fist into the air and air juggle is so Nero it's not even funny.
DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
edited June 7
Woah there no one said there weren't influences! It's got DMC influences, Dragons Dogma influences, Marvel v Capcom influences and plenty others.
Was saying that it's not gonna feel just like DMC to play. Control scheme is like the biggest contributing factor to how something feels. I mean that was one of the biggest reasons people said the Reboot wasn't really DMC because the control scheme changed and the game felt different.
Extra funny note here is that FF16 is actually closer in controls to the reboot than regular DMC. So probably actually closer in feel to the game that was widely claimed to totally not be DMC than actual DMC.
And by RPG elements mostly mean stats. Which also change the feel of combat.
And now that people have actually played the game .... we have people saying the same thing. I don't have Twitter so I can't actually link them but people that have actually played(and thought the game was good) have said: "don't go in expecting DMC. They really don't play alike other than on a very very superficial level. If you go in expecting DMC you are setting yourself up for disappointment."
It shares some visuals and is very flashy. But play wise, it doesn't feel the same. Which, makes sense even at a baseline. You can easily not be a DMC or even Bayonetta fan but enjoy this combat. They are different beasts.
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That said I guess they figure if you're invested enough to buy Intermission you're gonna have one eventually anyway.
My problem is I consider it a single game, because it is, and they've just split it into three (well, god knows how many actual DLCs this thing is going to have).
It would be like having Elden Ring end after you take down Radahn or something and then you pick up on the next console.
You can conceptualize it as one game if you'd like but... it's literally three different ones. With new assets, game systems, areas, playable characters, etc. in each one. The DLC for part 1 already did some very different things with the combat system.
It certainly feels like Starcraft 2 which was one game released in 3 parts.
I mean did you really think part 3 would come out on ps4 in like 5 years? You can feel annoyed by that but they weren’t pulling any sort of bait and switch. They were always clear from the start that the remake would be a series of games
While I generally agree, I do want to quibble a bit on that because it was initially just a remake and I (and many others) assumed it was one game. Then they announced later after it was initially revealed that it was going to be multiple games. Up until just now I assumed it was 2, but you're saying 3 and that shows how much information about it has changed and what someone may/may not have kept up with.
On the other hand, I'm tired of "next gen" games being held back by requirements of working on PS4/Xbone. The less wandering through narrow corridors or watching someone do an animation to disguise a loading screen the better.
But yes, multiple game development time, plus console generational time, your timelines ain't gonna sync up perfectly. There's a real world possibility part 3's release may end up scraping against the release of the PS6. And if it does, you know people will be asking/demanding it to be ported to that.
Movies, for example, can work but they get less of a pass because studios have shown they'll split things up when they don't need to for the monies.
Video games are just unproven or worse across all those axes.
But that's my opinion, it's subjective and it's cool if others don't feel the same. I mean you'd be wrong but still
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Xenogears/Xenosaga games would take so long to make that the full series would almost certainly end up a bit of a mess. What did get released had massive plot changes, style, and focus changes from game to game.
Starcraft 2 also suffered from this.
Now, with the right team and writers behind things I could have more confidence in the project. CBU3 just pulled this off in a 10 year story. But FFR is a Nomura project to my knowledge and I have seen what he has made of the Kingdom Heart gods and it does not fill me with confidence no matter how good an individual entry may be.
I'm not sure if that should make you more or less sure about the reliability of the continuations actually existing someday. It's definitely had a rocky development road so far.
Also, even my favorite multiple game story(Digital Devil Saga) had a rocky development cycle, with one of the writers and the project lead leaving midway through(Satomi Tadashi and Cozy Okada, who aren't even credited), which is why 1 & 2 are so tonally different.
But as is, it would be the same as saying Mass Effect is just one game chopped into 3 which isn't really something I've seen people say. As each game is a full dev cycle using the better technology and knowledge than the last.
For instance, I'd be all for seeing more of the Weapons than just having them attack then getting blown away like Sapphire.
I'm going to stick with feeling a little conned, because they release the first part on one system, then the subsequent DLC and installments were locked behind the PS5.
To use the StarCraft 2 analogy, you wouldn't have had a problem with getting the Terran campaign on your PS4 and then Zerg and Protoss on the PS5? The Terran release had a full campaign and multiplayer after all.
It's not a direct comparison, but I think the spirit is the same.
FF7R is one game, split into three parts, that if you played at launch requires you now to spend $500 to access the second part and given how long this is all taking I am not confident that the third doesn't arrive until the PS6.
It sucks!
It would be one thing if SE lied but they didn't. They said from the jump that Part 1 would be Midgar and it would be expanded enough to be a game in its own right.
And I think they did that.
But if that is an issue for you you can always wait for a sale(usually the previous game gets a big discount when the new one is coming out) or just wait for the compilation that will no doubt come out after it's completed.
And half way through the next generational console launched...
And only after the Terran release was work finally started on the Zerg and Protoss campaigns...
And each of those took 3-4 years to make in sequence...
...Yeah, I guess I wouldn't really have a problem.
I think best case scenario is that part 3 gets released in 2027. And that's assuming there are no developmental issues... and may I remind you of the dang company we're talking about here. Are you honestly expecting anybody to be releasing brand new PS4 games in 2027?
New games eventually stop coming out on older hardware. Was Halo 3 a scam because you had to buy an Xbox 360 to play it? That's just kind of how following video games works.
But FFXVI is about to come out and they want to focus on that.
So I'm guessing it'll be something like
23 - FFXVI
24 - FF7R2
25 - KH4
26 or 27 - FFXVII
27 or 28 - FF7R3
Now if Part will be on PS5 or PS6 is the question
No chance at all for FF17 on that timeline, the rest is feasible.
And I don't see them switching to a new engine which has been the biggest problem they had for the last few games.
To put things into perspective 12 to 13 was 5 years. Which at the time was a long time for a new FF. 13 to 15 was 7 years and you know that game's production was everywhere.
So I'm banking on about 4 years for 17 but no more than 5.
Not even Mass Effect?
https://www.gameinformer.com/exclusive-feature/2023/05/30/final-fantasy-16-finding-the-voices-of-clive-and-joshua-rosfield
Seems Joshua actually had a different VA that went through puberty and they had to switch. Unfortunate for the first kid!
And also Ben Starr originally was auditioning for a side role with like 10 lines. And they had him try out Clives and he got it. That must've been a great feeling especially since he's an FF fan.
I'm exactly the sort of language nerd that loves this kind of thing, and I also find Roger's mostly deadpan delivery very entertaining, but if you're not super interested in minute differences in translation this might not be for you. I shared it with a former colleague (and translator) and she really hated what she thought was an overly arrogant dismissal of the original translator's efforts. Also, Tim Roger's style is characterized by relating what he's reviewing with the experiences he either had at the time or can relate to the text of the game, and the end of the review just drops a bombshell of an experience he had with a friend's suicide on you. I wasn't prepared for that.
I haven't yet played the Beacause translation, but I want to before FFVII: Rebirth comes out. I'll probably do that closer to its release date since FFXVI is right around the corner. I'm trying to wrap up my ongoing playthroughs of Elden Ring and God of War before it releases because I think that's going to consume me for a few months. And also I imagine getting used to DMC combat is going to invalidate my muscle memory with other action games.
Ff7 has led to a lot of my favorite content honestly.
I harped on the translation differences in FFVI a lot, but they're just as many with FFVII. Most, if not all, of the expanded characterization we saw in FFVIIR for Cloud, Barret, Tifa, Aerith, and the rest was present in the original Japanese, and cut in the English translation for time, memory limitations, or a general lack of expertise. I think it's a crime that Square hasn't released a new translation for the original game considering how many times they've rereleased it.
There are a bunch of media folks doing the coy talk about a game you are playing that you can't reveal yet thing. And the vibes are EXTREMELY positive.
We can't confirm for sure what game they are talking about other than knowing that these were all popping up during the review window and have confirmed that review copies are out, have people on common leaker report places saying the reviewers are very impressed.
And of course some we know for sure are talking about FF16 because they say things like "see you on the 22nd". Which in turn makes some of the other uncertain ones more likely to be the same.
One person mentioned how they were brought to tears to the point their boss came to check on them(lol), someone responded to that saying "if it's what I think it is I have had the same experience", another person said "I thought TotK was for sure goty but I don't know anymore"
Most excellent and exciting news.
Yea I've got the 23rd off and the next weekend is a 4-day for 4th of July. Hells yea!
When the original rumors of a FF7 remake came about, I hoped for a minor graphical increase, but a much more robust translation. Legit the only reason I wanted them to redo it.
And yeah, with how many times they rereleased the original on places other than PS1, they could have just spent a bit of time on a legit translation.
But people seem to be really excited by it. Really showcasing the strategy and options in combat. Also further showing that no, it's not just DMC. Which I said before because a game with a whole different control scheme and RPG elements is already going to feel fairly different. Especially given how much of DMCs feel comes from the very particular control scheme.
But yea, take a look if that interests you! I can't really speak to what else is in there though haha.
Also DMC has had progression trees for like a while.
Like I'm sure FFXVI is its own game but the influences are fairly obvious.
*Like the counter, smack with fist into the air and air juggle is so Nero it's not even funny.
Was saying that it's not gonna feel just like DMC to play. Control scheme is like the biggest contributing factor to how something feels. I mean that was one of the biggest reasons people said the Reboot wasn't really DMC because the control scheme changed and the game felt different.
Extra funny note here is that FF16 is actually closer in controls to the reboot than regular DMC. So probably actually closer in feel to the game that was widely claimed to totally not be DMC than actual DMC.
And by RPG elements mostly mean stats. Which also change the feel of combat.
And now that people have actually played the game .... we have people saying the same thing. I don't have Twitter so I can't actually link them but people that have actually played(and thought the game was good) have said: "don't go in expecting DMC. They really don't play alike other than on a very very superficial level. If you go in expecting DMC you are setting yourself up for disappointment."
It shares some visuals and is very flashy. But play wise, it doesn't feel the same. Which, makes sense even at a baseline. You can easily not be a DMC or even Bayonetta fan but enjoy this combat. They are different beasts.