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EUROVISION 2023

ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
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The Eurovision Song Contest 2023 is the ongoing 67th edition of the Eurovision Song Contest. It is taking place in Liverpool, United Kingdom, after Ukraine, winner of the 2022 contest with the song "Stefania" by Kalush Orchestra, was unable to meet the demands of hosting the event due to security concerns caused by the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Organised by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) and host broadcaster the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) on behalf of the Public Broadcasting Company of Ukraine (UA:PBC), the contest is being held at the Liverpool Arena, and consists of two semi-finals on 9 and 11 May, and a final on 13 May 2023. The three live shows are being presented by British singer Alesha Dixon, British actress Hannah Waddingham and Ukrainian singer Julia Sanina, with Irish television presenter Graham Norton joining for the final.

Thirty-seven countries are participating in the contest, with Bulgaria, Montenegro and North Macedonia ceasing their participation, mainly due to the economic impact of the 2021–2023 global energy crisis.
Voting changes

On 22 November 2022, the EBU announced changes to the voting system for the 2023 contest. The results of the semi-finals would be determined solely by televoting, as was the case between 2004 and 2007, while the results of the final would be determined by a combination of national juries and televoting, as has been the case since the 2009 final. In the event that a country cannot deliver a televoting result, an aggregated result calculated on the basis of countries with similar voting patterns would be used, and in case that too fails, a backup jury result would be used instead. If a country's jury is disqualified, the televoting points from that country would be doubled and used as a substitute in the final. The procedure of using calculated points would remain as a last resort in the event that a country cannot deliver a valid jury or televoting result. Viewers from non-participating countries would also be able to vote in all shows, with their votes being aggregated and presented as one individual set of points under "Rest of the World". Those viewers would be able to cast votes via an online platform, which requires ownership of a credit or debit card for verification.

On 8 May 2023, a change to the semi-final qualifiers announcement format was trialled during the first dress rehearsal of the first semi-final, where the acts would be on stage to anticipate the announcement of the finalists instead of sitting in the green room, similar to shows such as The X Factor, but this format was dropped on the same day due to a negative response.
How to Watch Eurovision 2023

All three days of Eurovision 2023 will stream on Peacock at 3 p.m. ET/noon PT. Julia Sanina, Graham Norton, Hannah Waddingham and Alesha Dixon are among the hosts for the semi-finals and grand finale.

This year, Eurovision superfan Johnny Weir will host a special Watch With Live on Peacock during the Grand Final.

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LET'S GO, LET'S GO, LET'S GO!!!!

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    FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    Im confused, who can participate in Eurovision, and why isnt Korea just taking the trophy home year after year ?

    Yes, with a quick verbal "boom." You take a man's peko, you deny him his dab, all that is left is to rise up and tear down the walls of Jericho with a ".....not!" -TexiKen
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    NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Im confused, who can participate in Eurovision, and why isnt Korea just taking the trophy home year after year ?

    Eurovision.

    "Active members (as opposed to associate members) of the European Broadcasting Union are eligible to participate; active members are those who are located in states that fall within the European Broadcasting Area, or are member states of the Council of Europe."

    So mostly European countries, with a handful Europe-adjacent (west Asian and north African), and Australia I guess

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    FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    Narbus wrote: »
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Im confused, who can participate in Eurovision, and why isnt Korea just taking the trophy home year after year ?

    Eurovision. It's almost entirely European countries, with Australia being the notable outlier

    And Israel, so no reason Korea or the US could participate really.

    Yes, with a quick verbal "boom." You take a man's peko, you deny him his dab, all that is left is to rise up and tear down the walls of Jericho with a ".....not!" -TexiKen
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    NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    Yeah, "almost entirely" was doing some heavy lifting there so I edited the post a bit

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    FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Narbus wrote: »
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Im confused, who can participate in Eurovision, and why isnt Korea just taking the trophy home year after year ?

    Eurovision. It's almost entirely European countries, with Australia being the notable outlier

    And Israel, so no reason Korea or the US could participate really.

    Israel is in the EBU. I’m pretty sure the US and Korea are not.

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    We got Australia but the problem with the current format is that people get really sad when their countries' entry doesn't make it past the semi-finals (which exist to narrow down the number of participants)

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    I was unsure whether to make a thread but I should've known I could count on Zonugal's love of camp and Flarne's Swedish heart

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    FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    Flarne wrote: »
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Narbus wrote: »
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Im confused, who can participate in Eurovision, and why isnt Korea just taking the trophy home year after year ?

    Eurovision. It's almost entirely European countries, with Australia being the notable outlier

    And Israel, so no reason Korea or the US could participate really.

    Israel is in the EBU. I’m pretty sure the US and Korea are not.

    According to what I found on google, Australia was allowed to join because Eurovision is very popular there, so I guess that being part of the EBU or not is not a hard rule.

    Yes, with a quick verbal "boom." You take a man's peko, you deny him his dab, all that is left is to rise up and tear down the walls of Jericho with a ".....not!" -TexiKen
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    FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Flarne wrote: »
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Narbus wrote: »
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Im confused, who can participate in Eurovision, and why isnt Korea just taking the trophy home year after year ?

    Eurovision. It's almost entirely European countries, with Australia being the notable outlier

    And Israel, so no reason Korea or the US could participate really.

    Israel is in the EBU. I’m pretty sure the US and Korea are not.

    According to what I found on google, Australia was allowed to join because Eurovision is very popular there, so I guess that being part of the EBU or not is not a hard rule.

    Well no, that’s obvious since Australia is clearly not part of the EBU

    I was replying to your argument comparing Israel to the US and Korea

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    It's okay for there to be something the United States isn't an active participant in.

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    FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    Platy wrote: »
    I was unsure whether to make a thread but I should've known I could count on Zonugal's love of camp and Flarne's Swedish heart

    We’re doing our traditional viewing party of mostly allegiance-free non-Europeans and a few very serious Europeans from different countries

    It’s good to have some neutral people to act as buffers

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    There is an official commentary in Scouse

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    facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2023
    Platy wrote: »
    There is an official commentary in Scouse

    ok that's rad as hell

    Where can one find that?

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    That gramma's tractor song sure was something.

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    facetious wrote: »
    Platy wrote: »
    There is an official commentary in Scouse

    ok that's rad as hell

    Where can one find that?

    Sorry for the late answer, apparently it's only during the final on 13 May, in parallel on BBC Radio Merseyside

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    NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    First semi-final is over, and I have zero objections to the songs they knocked out. Particularly Ireland. Fuck Ireland. The only real strong complaint I have is that Switzerland made it through. That song is maybe the most tortured metaphor I've heard from Eurovision in years, and it's Eurovision.

    Other than that there was a lot of poorly chosen rap breakdowns which is about par for the course. Several generic Eurovision-pop songs, but at least this isn't as ballad heavy as the last few years. Portugal was a fun song, but I still haven't forgiven them for Salvador, so go pound dirt Mimicat. Serbia and Finland made me want to play Tony Hawk ProSkater really quite a bit, which I didn't expect, but did enjoy!

    Overall there were a few decent songs, but since this was the semi-final with Loreen it's really not fair. Honestly they probably did this just to give the much better songs in semi-final two a fighting chance. Good work Eurovision producers!

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    KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    It's okay for there to be something the United States isn't an active participant in.

    We have our own Eurovision now

    It gave us this

    https://youtu.be/IKT3tOarh7E

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Johnny Weir was great last year. I'm disappointed he doesn't get to do the whole thing again this time.

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    Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    It's okay for there to be something the United States isn't an active participant in.

    I actively do not want the US to be involved in Eurovision at all

    Fuck off America you've got your own garbage

    Anyway Finland 2023 let's go

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Harry-Carry Rock

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    It's okay for there to be something the United States isn't an active participant in.

    We have our own Eurovision now

    It gave us this

    https://youtu.be/IKT3tOarh7E

    A song named after a joke on Reno 911 won?

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Yesterday at work, with my regular lunch-crew, we did a Eurovision 2023 fantasy draft, in which we chose our top three nations in terms of who we think might claim victory on Saturday.

    I'm pulling for either France, Spain, or Portugal.

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    edited May 2023
    I'm rooting for Norway, Finland, and Germany.

    Romania just missed the cut.

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    NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    It's okay for there to be something the United States isn't an active participant in.

    We have our own Eurovision now

    It gave us this

    https://youtu.be/IKT3tOarh7E

    A song named after a joke on Reno 911 won?

    No, that song was just fun. This k-pop singer from Oklahoma was the winner
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3r0XalvVZHU

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    I'll always pull for Finland, since they've had 2 legit metal acts make it to at least the semis, those being Nightwish and Lordi, with the latter actually taking the crown in 2006:

    https://youtu.be/gAh9NRGNhUU

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    I'm rooting for Norway, Finland, and Germany.

    Romania just missed the cut.

    German expectations
    https://youtu.be/_zfnlkiPCVA

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Why is the second semi-final always like this

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Platy wrote: »
    Why is the second semi-final always like this

    Tradition?

    No matter where you go...there you are.
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    Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    Okay so this past week was absolutely awful but I'm rallying and watching the semifinals in preparation

    I've got two strong strong favourites from semifinal one so far and one of them maaay take the edge over Finland

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    Voyager is a prog metal band from here in Perth and they fucking own and I am hoping so very very hard that they win the whole thing this year because they're rad as hell

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Flarne wrote: »
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Narbus wrote: »
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    Im confused, who can participate in Eurovision, and why isnt Korea just taking the trophy home year after year ?

    Eurovision. It's almost entirely European countries, with Australia being the notable outlier

    And Israel, so no reason Korea or the US could participate really.

    Israel is in the EBU. I’m pretty sure the US and Korea are not.

    According to what I found on google, Australia was allowed to join because Eurovision is very popular there, so I guess that being part of the EBU or not is not a hard rule.

    We were invited to join as a once-off for the 60th eurovision, but apparently eurovision fans in europe loved who we sent so much that it was decided to make the invitation permanent

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    Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    Voyager is pretty good

    moldova flute guy though

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    "Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
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    FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    Any acts worth watching that didn’t make it to the finals?

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Most of the songs which didn't make it were surprisingly very typical songs

    I was surprised that Iceland didn't make into the finals

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    FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    Platy wrote: »
    Most of the songs which didn't make it were surprisingly very typical songs

    I was surprised that Iceland didn't make into the finals

    That’s what they get when they don’t have any neighbors to vote for em

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    Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    Flarne wrote: »
    Any acts worth watching that didn’t make it to the finals?

    Not in my opinion. Last year there was one really catchy one that I thought got shafted but this year the songs that haven't made it have all been pretty meh. Romania was like a weird pink mime goth but the song wasn't really anything to write home about. Iceland's song was just okay even though she seems totally badass as a person?

    Related I'm all about the arm tone on her and Hannah Waddingham. Flex, ladiiiies

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    "Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Who's all ready for the final

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    UrsusUrsus Registered User regular
    Sweden is the favorite to win? Did not think the song was that good tbh.

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    I really like Poland’s stage stuff

    Edit: wait holy shit Serbia takes the front spot it had a health bar

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