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Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    The Disney Vault is back. Buy everything now before it goes back in FOREVER!

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    dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    Hevach wrote: »
    The Disney Vault is back. Buy everything now before it goes back in FOREVER!

    I've seen this posted a couple of times, and I always think, "Are we talking about the same vault? You know, the one where they keep things that are actually in high demand and will be incredibly popular when they take them back out again?"

    Other than Willow, most people can't even name another show that's being axed. Especially not one that Disney actually outright owns. The Mighty Ducks: Gamechangers? Turner & Hooch? Here's the full list as its known now:
    A Spark Story
    Be Our Chef
    Best In Dough
    Best In Snow
    Big Shot
    Black Beauty
    Cheaper by the Dozen
    Clouds
    Diary of a Future President
    Disney Fairy Tale Weddings
    Dollface
    Earth To Ned
    Encore!
    Everything’s Trash
    Foodtastic
    Howard
    It’s a Dog’s Life With Bill Farmer
    Just Beyond
    Little Demon
    Love In The Time Of Corona
    Maggie
    Magic Camp
    Marvel’s Project Hero
    Marvel’s MPower
    Marvel’s Voices Rising: The Music of Wakanda Forever
    Pistol
    Rosaline
    Stargirl
    Stuntman
    The Hot Zone
    The Making Of Willow
    The Mighty Ducks: Game Changers
    The Mysterious Benedict Society
    The One And Only Ivan
    The Premise
    The Quest
    The World According To Jeff Goldblum
    Timmy Failure
    Weird but True!
    Willow
    Wolfgang
    Y: The Last Man

    The only one where I was actually thinking "wait, what?" was Y. And that was already canceled once, two years ago, and I don't think Disney even owns it. It was made for FX and they just had it playing on Hulu(Edit: slight correction - FX is owned by Disney, so it was technically a Disney/Hulu show), and maybe nobody really watched it? The only other name I even recognize is The Mysterious Benedict Society, because I have young children. Looking it up, it was already canceled back in January and they're just removing it. It seems to have gotten middling reviews.

    We've had some especially daft moves in tv and movies lately, mainly by David Zaslav of Warner Bros Discovery HBO Tacopepsihut. But these cancelations/removals? They seem to actually make sense to a company that's trying to make money. I look at this list and think, yeah, that's probably a lot of stuff you don't need to pay to keep.

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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I enjoyed Y: The Last Man the comic book. I did not watch the FX show. I actually didn't even know it existed. Maybe they did a poor job of marketing it? I probably would have watched it, had I known of its existence.

    Or maybe it was yet another case of Hollywood not respecting the source material and making a bunch of needless/unnecessary changes? (Kinda like the Witcher). /shrug. Guess now I'll never find out.

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    YoungFreyYoungFrey Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    dennis wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    The Disney Vault is back. Buy everything now before it goes back in FOREVER!

    I've seen this posted a couple of times, and I always think, "Are we talking about the same vault? You know, the one where they keep things that are actually in high demand and will be incredibly popular when they take them back out again?"

    Other than Willow, most people can't even name another show that's being axed. Especially not one that Disney actually outright owns. The Mighty Ducks: Gamechangers? Turner & Hooch? Here's the full list as its known now:
    A Spark Story
    Be Our Chef
    Best In Dough
    Best In Snow
    Big Shot
    Black Beauty
    Cheaper by the Dozen
    Clouds
    Diary of a Future President
    Disney Fairy Tale Weddings
    Dollface
    Earth To Ned
    Encore!
    Everything’s Trash
    Foodtastic
    Howard
    It’s a Dog’s Life With Bill Farmer
    Just Beyond
    Little Demon
    Love In The Time Of Corona
    Maggie
    Magic Camp
    Marvel’s Project Hero
    Marvel’s MPower
    Marvel’s Voices Rising: The Music of Wakanda Forever
    Pistol
    Rosaline
    Stargirl
    Stuntman
    The Hot Zone
    The Making Of Willow
    The Mighty Ducks: Game Changers
    The Mysterious Benedict Society
    The One And Only Ivan
    The Premise
    The Quest
    The World According To Jeff Goldblum
    Timmy Failure
    Weird but True!
    Willow
    Wolfgang
    Y: The Last Man

    The only one where I was actually thinking "wait, what?" was Y. And that was already canceled once, two years ago, and I don't think Disney even owns it. It was made for FX and they just had it playing on Hulu(Edit: slight correction - FX is owned by Disney, so it was technically a Disney/Hulu show), and maybe nobody really watched it? The only other name I even recognize is The Mysterious Benedict Society, because I have young children. Looking it up, it was already canceled back in January and they're just removing it. It seems to have gotten middling reviews.

    We've had some especially daft moves in tv and movies lately, mainly by David Zaslav of Warner Bros Discovery HBO Tacopepsihut. But these cancelations/removals? They seem to actually make sense to a company that's trying to make money. I look at this list and thing, yeah, that's probably a lot of stuff you don't need to pay to keep.

    Personally I quite enjoyed Dollface and would like to see a 3rd season, but I agree with the general point that this list isn't exactly top-tier.

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    RatherDashing89RatherDashing89 Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    The Disney Vault is back. Buy everything now before it goes back in FOREVER!

    I've seen this posted a couple of times, and I always think, "Are we talking about the same vault? You know, the one where they keep things that are actually in high demand and will be incredibly popular when they take them back out again?"

    Other than Willow, most people can't even name another show that's being axed. Especially not one that Disney actually outright owns. The Mighty Ducks: Gamechangers? Turner & Hooch? Here's the full list as its known now:
    A Spark Story
    Be Our Chef
    Best In Dough
    Best In Snow
    Big Shot
    Black Beauty
    Cheaper by the Dozen
    Clouds
    Diary of a Future President
    Disney Fairy Tale Weddings
    Dollface
    Earth To Ned
    Encore!
    Everything’s Trash
    Foodtastic
    Howard
    It’s a Dog’s Life With Bill Farmer
    Just Beyond
    Little Demon
    Love In The Time Of Corona
    Maggie
    Magic Camp
    Marvel’s Project Hero
    Marvel’s MPower
    Marvel’s Voices Rising: The Music of Wakanda Forever
    Pistol
    Rosaline
    Stargirl
    Stuntman
    The Hot Zone
    The Making Of Willow
    The Mighty Ducks: Game Changers
    The Mysterious Benedict Society
    The One And Only Ivan
    The Premise
    The Quest
    The World According To Jeff Goldblum
    Timmy Failure
    Weird but True!
    Willow
    Wolfgang
    Y: The Last Man

    The only one where I was actually thinking "wait, what?" was Y. And that was already canceled once, two years ago, and I don't think Disney even owns it. It was made for FX and they just had it playing on Hulu(Edit: slight correction - FX is owned by Disney, so it was technically a Disney/Hulu show), and maybe nobody really watched it? The only other name I even recognize is The Mysterious Benedict Society, because I have young children. Looking it up, it was already canceled back in January and they're just removing it. It seems to have gotten middling reviews.

    We've had some especially daft moves in tv and movies lately, mainly by David Zaslav of Warner Bros Discovery HBO Tacopepsihut. But these cancelations/removals? They seem to actually make sense to a company that's trying to make money. I look at this list and thing, yeah, that's probably a lot of stuff you don't need to pay to keep.

    The only complaints I could really offer about Disney plus is that they don't have enough of the old Disney channel shows (specifically Smart Guy and Jett Jackson, though I assume there are rights issues going on with both of those), and that they don't seem to be doing the "Disney Afternoon" thing that they were teasing with Talespin and Darkwing Duck following after the awesomeness of the Duck Tales reboot.

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    Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    I actually enjoyed Willow

    It’s not like the original was high cinema

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    dennis wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    The Disney Vault is back. Buy everything now before it goes back in FOREVER!

    I've seen this posted a couple of times, and I always think, "Are we talking about the same vault? You know, the one where they keep things that are actually in high demand and will be incredibly popular when they take them back out again?"

    Some of it was, but also a lot was shovelware sequels and spinoffs, like Lion Guard - the Lion King spinoff about Simba's son who became an airbender.

    It also wasn't their only rotating sales moratorium, just the only one they gave a name and advertised as if it was a good thing. There was a limit to how many of the Herbie films were available at a time (as well as several other series), a bunch of actors had concurrent available film limits, and they had era collections where only 2-3 films of a collection would be available at a time.

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    Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    I actually enjoyed Willow

    It’s not like the original was high cinema
    There are three of us! Three of us! :triumph::tongue:

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    E.CoyoteE.Coyote Registered User regular
    I was disappointed they didn't follow the books from the 90s. To be fair, it's not nearly as bad as what MTV did with the Shannara series.

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    dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    E.Coyote wrote: »
    I was disappointed they didn't follow the books from the 90s. To be fair, it's not nearly as bad as what MTV did with the Shannara series.

    I was hopeful for that one.

    Such a fool.

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    GilgaronGilgaron Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    I enjoyed Y: The Last Man the comic book. I did not watch the FX show. I actually didn't even know it existed. Maybe they did a poor job of marketing it? I probably would have watched it, had I known of its existence.

    Or maybe it was yet another case of Hollywood not respecting the source material and making a bunch of needless/unnecessary changes? (Kinda like the Witcher). /shrug. Guess now I'll never find out.

    It came out during the early days of the pandemic, which was poor timing for people being able to watch such a thing psychologically, in my case.

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    PyrianPyrian Registered User regular
    ...literal inversion of Willow's themes...

    "Willow had themes?" I mean, I guess it did, technically, but only in the most generic way possible.

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    dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    From the newspost:
    I always said that eventually the proliferation of streaming services comes around to one of these jagoffs re-inventing cable again. I assumed that was just me listening to my Devil Shoulder and being a Bad Person. But no. It's absolutely true.

    Ironically, that's what Hulu sorta was. It was owned by multiple independent companies, and had shows from their properties, plus ones outside it. Disney jumped in, and added their stuff. Then they slowly bought out the shares (or the companies that owned them), until now it's just Disney.

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    MarcinMNMarcinMN Registered User regular
    I vaguely remember watching the movie as a kid. That was enough to put the new tv show in the "I should watch that sometime" category. That sometime never came. In this case my tendency to be late to the party on most tv shows appears to have saved me some time and mental trauma. If past experience is any indication though, I probably would have found it mediocre at worst, but not outright bad. It's very, VERY hard to get me to truly dislike a movie or tv show. I guess I never let myself get hyped enough to care either way.

    "It's just as I've always said. We are being digested by an amoral universe."

    -Tycho Brahe
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    ArmsForPeace84ArmsForPeace84 Your Partner In Freedom Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    dennis wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    The Disney Vault is back. Buy everything now before it goes back in FOREVER!

    I've seen this posted a couple of times, and I always think, "Are we talking about the same vault? You know, the one where they keep things that are actually in high demand and will be incredibly popular when they take them back out again?"

    Other than Willow, most people can't even name another show that's being axed. Especially not one that Disney actually outright owns. The Mighty Ducks: Gamechangers? Turner & Hooch? Here's the full list as its known now:
    A Spark Story
    Be Our Chef
    Best In Dough
    Best In Snow
    Big Shot
    Black Beauty
    Cheaper by the Dozen
    Clouds
    Diary of a Future President
    Disney Fairy Tale Weddings
    Dollface
    Earth To Ned
    Encore!
    Everything’s Trash
    Foodtastic
    Howard
    It’s a Dog’s Life With Bill Farmer
    Just Beyond
    Little Demon
    Love In The Time Of Corona
    Maggie
    Magic Camp
    Marvel’s Project Hero
    Marvel’s MPower
    Marvel’s Voices Rising: The Music of Wakanda Forever
    Pistol
    Rosaline
    Stargirl
    Stuntman
    The Hot Zone
    The Making Of Willow
    The Mighty Ducks: Game Changers
    The Mysterious Benedict Society
    The One And Only Ivan
    The Premise
    The Quest
    The World According To Jeff Goldblum
    Timmy Failure
    Weird but True!
    Willow
    Wolfgang
    Y: The Last Man

    The only one where I was actually thinking "wait, what?" was Y. And that was already canceled once, two years ago, and I don't think Disney even owns it. It was made for FX and they just had it playing on Hulu(Edit: slight correction - FX is owned by Disney, so it was technically a Disney/Hulu show), and maybe nobody really watched it? The only other name I even recognize is The Mysterious Benedict Society, because I have young children. Looking it up, it was already canceled back in January and they're just removing it. It seems to have gotten middling reviews.

    We've had some especially daft moves in tv and movies lately, mainly by David Zaslav of Warner Bros Discovery HBO Tacopepsihut. But these cancelations/removals? They seem to actually make sense to a company that's trying to make money. I look at this list and think, yeah, that's probably a lot of stuff you don't need to pay to keep.

    Cheaper By The Dozen and Everything's Trash should have a soft landing on Netflix.

    ArmsForPeace84 on
    Nothing personal. It's just business.
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    LtPowersLtPowers Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    Other than Willow, most people can't even name another show that's being axed. Especially not one that Disney actually outright owns.

    I've had The World According Jeff Goldblum and Stargirl on my watchlist since I got Disney+ and now I've gotta figure out if I can binge them before Friday.

    My wife enjoyed Willow. I assume people who saw themes in the original film were not the target audience for the series.


    Powers &8^]

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    v2miccav2micca Registered User regular
    E.Coyote wrote: »
    I was disappointed they didn't follow the books from the 90s. To be fair, it's not nearly as bad as what MTV did with the Shannara series.

    The fact that Wil Ohmsford went on to play Elvis Presley still kind of messes with me. But yeah, that adaptation in particular hurt me as the Elfstones of Shannara was one of my favorite fantasy novels as a child. And the show just found increasingly horrible ways to butcher its adaptation.

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    Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    I've got the DVD of the original movie right here. The commentary track is really very good.

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    Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
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    TamerBillTamerBill Registered User regular
    Zilla360 wrote: »
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    "Interactive Menus". That would be the whole point of a menu, yes.

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    dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Zilla360 wrote: »
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    "Interactive Menus". That would be the whole point of a menu, yes.

    Did someone order some pedantry?

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    Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Zilla360 wrote: »
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    "Interactive Menus". That would be the whole point of a menu, yes.
    The 80's and 90's were a wild time.

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    OverkillengineOverkillengine Registered User regular
    edited May 2023
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Zilla360 wrote: »
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    "Interactive Menus". That would be the whole point of a menu, yes.

    Keep in mind when DVD's were new, VHS was still dominating the market, so something like a menu where you could skip immediately to a desired scene instead of waiting through fast forwarding or rewinding a tape was a very bulletpointable and braggable feature for prospective buyers instead of just an expected status quo.

    Now get off my lawn. Damn kids.

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    Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    I moved so I actually have a tiny patch of lawn now. And my back hurts. :(

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    RatherDashing89RatherDashing89 Registered User regular
    I'm still amazed that it's The Year Of Our Lord Current Year and DVDs still make you wait through a long animated menu before becoming "interactive". It must be so discouraging to be a professional menu animator, and realize that the more effort you put into your job, the more everyone will hate your creation.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    TamerBill wrote: »
    Zilla360 wrote: »
    29euknzwik04.jpg

    "Interactive Menus". That would be the whole point of a menu, yes.

    Keep in mind when DVD's were new, VHS was still dominating the market, so something like a menu where you could skip immediately to a desired scene instead of waiting through fast forwarding or rewinding a tape was a very bulletpointable and braggable feature for prospective buyers instead of just an expected status quo.

    Now get off my lawn. Damn kids.

    Also many DVDs had menus that were more than just a selector between watch movie, special features, and audio/subtitles. Like some had rudimentary games that would change the background media that would play in the menu screen etc.

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    MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Also the "secret" features where you could click off the menu and select like the title and it'd play outtakes.

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    Also the "secret" features where you could click off the menu and select like the title and it'd play outtakes.

    I remember accidentally scrolling off menu on a Futurama DVD and accessing a table read for an episode

    I then had to try every other DVD in the box set just in case

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
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    YoungFreyYoungFrey Registered User regular
    My Memento DVD had this weird interface that looked like a psych test. There was some series of inputs that would let you watch the film in chronological scene order.

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