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Anti-Sleep Apnea Mouthguard

ZythonZython Registered User regular
Background: I have obstructive sleep apnea, and after several appointments, found out that I'm a good candidate for the Inspire implant. However, before I get that, I want to try out the mouthguard solution first. I've tried using a CPAP machine before, but couldn't sleep with it.

Problem: I'm not sure which brand I should go with. My ENT doc suggested prioritizing comfort, but Amazon isn't particularly helpful. I tried asking my dentist for recommendations, but she only recommends doing a specialized one that's like $2k, and I'm not paying that much for something that might not work.

So which brand should I go for?

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    I don't have an answer for you, but I do have a question!

    Did you do an in home sleep test for apnea? If so which one/how was the experience?

    I'm 99% sure I have it, but I'm pretty sure I'm never going to do a sleep study at a not-my-bedroom kinda place.

  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    I don't have an answer for you, but I do have a question!

    Did you do an in home sleep test for apnea? If so which one/how was the experience?

    I'm 99% sure I have it, but I'm pretty sure I'm never going to do a sleep study at a not-my-bedroom kinda place.

    I've done one at the facility, and another at home (my insurance would only cover the at-home one). This is the one I used at home.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vaXa6EClUU

    It was bit finicky to get everything situated, but I was able to sleep well enough with it on, and the people at the center seemed to think the results were conclusive enough. Definitely more comfortable than all the shit they hook up to you at the facility.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    Well, I just purchased a ZQuiet, so when it arrives in a week or so I'll let you know it ifs any help/comfort to me.

  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    ZQuiet mouth guard showed up today. I tried it out for a minute and it seems comfortable enough?

    Not sure if it's $40 worth of materials or engineering, but it seems like it would work fine. I'll update my thoughts after sleeping with it in for a few nights

  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    My teeth are not particularly straight and when I wake up after wearing this thing, man, do my teeth fucking hurt.

    It does seem to help with the breathing thing, but it kinda feels like I stopped wearing my retainer for a few months, then right before my dentist visit I tried to start wearing it again to fool the doctor.

    Not sure if this is the right one for me

  • RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    I don't know what brand mine is but I've been using one for a year and it works really well. It's supposedly 500$ out of pocket but between a visit to the ENT and an at home sleep study I was able to get it directly through the doc at no charge and they did the molding with me in office when it came in.

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  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    Finally got mine in the mail. I couldn't use it last night, due to my gag reflex acting up. I may just take a little time to adjust. I remember having this problem with my retainer, but that was 20 years ago. Hopefully this works, because the only other option is a surgical implant.

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    I have been wearing a mouthguard for teeth grinding for years and now one for apnea (it's serving a dual purpose now!). It's not something you want to cheap out on, as they last for a long time and you wear them for a third of your life (assuming you sleep for 8 hours a night). Check with insurance if they'll pay for some or all of the cost, you need to get an up to date mold of your teeth made so it fits comfortably. If you don't wear it for a period of time, your teeth can shift and it will no longer fit comfortably.

    you'll also want to get some denture cleaner and use it regularly so you're not growing bacteria in your mouth.

  • KamiroKamiro Registered User regular
    I have been wearing a mouthguard for teeth grinding for years and now one for apnea (it's serving a dual purpose now!). It's not something you want to cheap out on, as they last for a long time and you wear them for a third of your life (assuming you sleep for 8 hours a night). Check with insurance if they'll pay for some or all of the cost, you need to get an up to date mold of your teeth made so it fits comfortably. If you don't wear it for a period of time, your teeth can shift and it will no longer fit comfortably.

    you'll also want to get some denture cleaner and use it regularly so you're not growing bacteria in your mouth.

    I have this as well.

    Have had mine for 7 years, but the inner lining has started to come off which is causing it to not fit as tightly, so I'm getting a new one.

    Mine works by having my lower jaw move forward and then the way the mouth guard is designed, locks it there. It is adjustable so if it's too far in either direction, it can be changed. But your dentist should provide the initial fitting. And although it's a dental device, apparently it goes to my health insurance so we'll see what they charge me for this new one.

  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    So I got my mouthguard, and I don't think this is going to work. The problem is that since it's a generic fit, it doesn't fit snugly, which makes me paranoid that it's gonna come loose and choke me in my sleep. I think I should give my CPAP machine one more try. Because if I can't get used to that, my only other option is a surgical implant.

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  • CaedwyrCaedwyr Registered User regular
    If your sleep apnea is positional the the use of two triangular body pillows to keep yourself on your side may work. I had no luck with the mouth guard, cpap machine, or any of the other solutions, but the two pillows has worked for about 7 years.

  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    Caedwyr wrote: »
    If your sleep apnea is positional the the use of two triangular body pillows to keep yourself on your side may work. I had no luck with the mouth guard, cpap machine, or any of the other solutions, but the two pillows has worked for about 7 years.

    Interesting. Do you have any links to these pillows?

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  • PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    Can you get a fitted mouth guard

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    Something like this, I imagine. I have no experience with this or any others though.

    https://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Stylish-Jacquard-Sleepers-Pregnancy/dp/B09KMBQY3N/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?keywords=wedge+pillow+side+sleeper&qid=1688700393&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1

    As far as I know, I only get the apnea when I'm on my back, but I am already a side/stomach sleeper at night, which is nice.

    But after I wake up the first time, I will often stay in bed and fall asleep again on my back, and then I wake up with loud snorting sounds and stuff. Not in the night at least!

  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    Can you get a fitted mouth guard

    My dentist wants 2 grand for that, and my health insurance doesn't cover dental.

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  • CaedwyrCaedwyr Registered User regular
    Zython wrote: »
    Caedwyr wrote: »
    If your sleep apnea is positional the the use of two triangular body pillows to keep yourself on your side may work. I had no luck with the mouth guard, cpap machine, or any of the other solutions, but the two pillows has worked for about 7 years.

    Interesting. Do you have any links to these pillows?

    Something like this could work:

    https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/SUNSIOM-Side-Triangle-Pillows-Foam-Body-Positioner-Orthopaedic-Leg-Raise-Acid/1MUMBL1UI60Y

    You want enough weight to the pillow that it doesn't just slide away. I have a very firm rectangular bolster pillow that is mostly useless because it just slides away. The triangular prism shape helps because your own body weight helps hold it in place.

    Even a pair of pillow animals in their folded up shape can work in a pinch.

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    This of course works best if you are already a side sleeper. Paying attention to your sleep hygiene is also a big part of this. I know for example that I want to make sure to not go to sleep on a full stomach or having eaten too protein heavy of a meal before hand. I sleep best in a cool room, with fresh airflow. Sleeping on my side gives me the most rest and the useful bit of information I got from my sleep study is that while I might snore normally even on my side, I only had the obstructed airflow and gasps typical of sleep apnea when I rolled over on my back during the night.

    The mouth guards can help some people, but they typically do have some impact on your teeth positioning and dental health over time, even if you get one properly fitted. The CPAP machine was useless for me, since it couldn't handle me sleeping on my side and I was not able to get good rest sleeping on my back. I lucked out with the pair of triangle pillow approach and it even is somewhat adaptable when travelling and staying at hotels since I can use extra pillows to sort of approximate the effect. It may be worth a try and you may already have something you can use to at least trial the effect without having to go out and buy something.

  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Hm. If you're down to using different types of mouth guards, may want to look into other CPAP machines or other CPAP mask types, depending on what exactly is giving you problems with the CPAP. You may need to negotiate pressure settings as well.

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  • CaedwyrCaedwyr Registered User regular
    Be aware that raising pressure settings can end up causing you to feel more bloated (which it did for me) and that can result in equally poor sleep quality. However, a lot of people are able to switch to using CPAP machines and have great success with them.

  • RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    Zython wrote: »
    Can you get a fitted mouth guard

    My dentist wants 2 grand for that, and my health insurance doesn't cover dental.

    Go to an ENT. In the process of getting it insurance approved I had to do an at home sleep study and had to get a letter from the dentist saying I didn't suffer from TMJ/lockjaw (the person in the dentists front office helpfully offered to sell me the same mouth guard at almost full price because dental insurance is a scam and a lot of dentists are absolute swindlers) but then the insurance relented and covered the whole thing.

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