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Writers and actors may be on strike, but [TV] persists

PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, manAh, jeezRegistered User regular
edited September 2023 in Social Entropy++
Don't let those bastard CEOs get ya down, TV's tougher than those dorks.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I thought they stopped making TV back in the 90s?

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    I'm rewatching Trial & Error (now on prime) and I love it so much. Steven Boyer as Dwayne Reed is just a perfect delight.

    Actually pretty wild that pooro brought it up in the previous thread a few days after I started the rewatch. I can't remember saying any talk here while it was still on.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited June 2023
    I'm rewatching Trial & Error (now on prime) and I love it so much. Steven Boyer as Dwayne Reed is just a perfect delight.

    Actually pretty wild that pooro brought it up in the previous thread a few days after I started the rewatch. I can't remember saying any talk here while it was still on.

    Oh I talk about that show a LOT, I think it's really special

    They did an impossible thing. They made a compelling longform mystery that was ALSO funny as hell, which is improbable enough, but then they did it AGAIN in the second season.

    Longform mystery shows always struggle with a second season. High concept shows often struggle repeating their tricks in second seasons. Most comedies fail.

    Yet there was Trial & Error, doing some of the most impressive shit I've seen in the comedy space, and it felt like nobody even CARED, it was wild

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Something especially grim about Marvel/Disney using AI art for their big new TV show

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    I'm rewatching Trial & Error (now on prime) and I love it so much. Steven Boyer as Dwayne Reed is just a perfect delight.

    Actually pretty wild that pooro brought it up in the previous thread a few days after I started the rewatch. I can't remember saying any talk here while it was still on.

    Oh I talk about that show a LOT, I think it's really special

    They did an impossible thing. They made a compelling longform mystery that was ALSO funny as hell, which is improbable enough, but then they did it AGAIN in the second season.

    Longform mystery shows always struggle with a second season. High concept shows often struggle repeating their tricks in second seasons. Most comedies fail.

    Yet there was Trial & Error, doing some of the most impressive shit I've seen in the comedy space, and it felt like nobody even CARED, it was wild

    My wife and I reference the Lady Driver flagger on probably a weekly basis.

    That and "Find out about my skate key"

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I do not think I ever even heard of Trial and Error, I may have to look that up

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    This week is packed, first new Righteous Gemstones, tomorrow new The Bear

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    I'm rewatching Trial & Error (now on prime) and I love it so much. Steven Boyer as Dwayne Reed is just a perfect delight.

    Actually pretty wild that pooro brought it up in the previous thread a few days after I started the rewatch. I can't remember saying any talk here while it was still on.

    Oh I talk about that show a LOT, I think it's really special

    They did an impossible thing. They made a compelling longform mystery that was ALSO funny as hell, which is improbable enough, but then they did it AGAIN in the second season.

    Longform mystery shows always struggle with a second season. High concept shows often struggle repeating their tricks in second seasons. Most comedies fail.

    Yet there was Trial & Error, doing some of the most impressive shit I've seen in the comedy space, and it felt like nobody even CARED, it was wild

    i do not think we have ever gone more than a month without bringing this show up in conversation?

    i also am constantly bringing up the fact that there was never a two-face in gotham was because harvey dent's actor played the lead in it

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    This is where I find out I'm bad at reading threads I guess.

    Well. Carry on then, and also yes everyone should check it out.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    honestly i never know what i post and what i just talk about

    i barely remember last week

    anyway this is why people should always listen to me all the time

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Something especially grim about Marvel/Disney using AI art for their big new TV show

    Predictably, it looks like shit.

    What's weird is that they didn't cheap out on the production of the show, it has like...actual sets and shit. So this feels like them testing the waters for what audiences will accept.

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Nobody will really care because all of their tv show intros are dogshit and everybody just skips them. They haven't had a single catchy credits song for any of their shows and when I'm watching the shows I tune out around the credits and check twitter or play a game on my phone, or I skip it depending on how close I left the remote to me.

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    The marketing for Secret Invasion has been odd too, this is literally how I found out it started this week.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    we finished Letterkenny and is it just me or is literally every female character on the show bisexual?

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    I'm rewatching Trial & Error (now on prime) and I love it so much. Steven Boyer as Dwayne Reed is just a perfect delight.

    Actually pretty wild that pooro brought it up in the previous thread a few days after I started the rewatch. I can't remember saying any talk here while it was still on.

    Oh I talk about that show a LOT, I think it's really special

    They did an impossible thing. They made a compelling longform mystery that was ALSO funny as hell, which is improbable enough, but then they did it AGAIN in the second season.

    Longform mystery shows always struggle with a second season. High concept shows often struggle repeating their tricks in second seasons. Most comedies fail.

    Yet there was Trial & Error, doing some of the most impressive shit I've seen in the comedy space, and it felt like nobody even CARED, it was wild

    Love Trial & Error too. Such a cool show.

    But also on this note, and while it's not a comedy, it IS a long-form mystery that miraculously had a fantastic second season. I know I've beaten on the drum for Broadchurch a bunch, but it's a personal mission to get everyone here to watch it.

    Doesn't hurt that the cast is bonkers. David Tennant, Olivia Coleman, Jodie Whittaker, Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Arthur Darvill. Just three seasons of impossibly improving long form mysteries in a slightly odd small town full of dubious characters. Just, uh... don't go checking out the American remake, for god's sake.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    we finished Letterkenny and is it just me or is literally every female character on the show bisexual?

    That's just how it is sometimes

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    GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    edited June 2023
    It feels like Letterkenny has some beliefs about gender roles that are a little iffy.

    GR_Zombie on
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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular

    Taylor Sheridan says he might quit TV if the WGA #WritersStrike compels studios to staff shows with a minimum number of writers: “The freedom of the artist to create must be unfettered…”

    Buddy, don't threaten me with a good time

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Ohhhh it’s a Peacock show. Forgot about that. I have Peacock!

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Speaking of Nathan Lane

    There’s a really good clip of him on the Oprah show and she’s clearly trying to bait him into coming out so Robin Williams just does a Robin Williams and completely sidetracks the conversation.

    Nathan Lane calls him a “saint” for it and it makes me tear up a little every time.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm rewatching Trial & Error (now on prime) and I love it so much. Steven Boyer as Dwayne Reed is just a perfect delight.

    Actually pretty wild that pooro brought it up in the previous thread a few days after I started the rewatch. I can't remember saying any talk here while it was still on.

    Oh I talk about that show a LOT, I think it's really special

    They did an impossible thing. They made a compelling longform mystery that was ALSO funny as hell, which is improbable enough, but then they did it AGAIN in the second season.

    Longform mystery shows always struggle with a second season. High concept shows often struggle repeating their tricks in second seasons. Most comedies fail.

    Yet there was Trial & Error, doing some of the most impressive shit I've seen in the comedy space, and it felt like nobody even CARED, it was wild

    Love Trial & Error too. Such a cool show.

    But also on this note, and while it's not a comedy, it IS a long-form mystery that miraculously had a fantastic second season. I know I've beaten on the drum for Broadchurch a bunch, but it's a personal mission to get everyone here to watch it.

    Doesn't hurt that the cast is bonkers. David Tennant, Olivia Coleman, Jodie Whittaker, Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Arthur Darvill. Just three seasons of impossibly improving long form mysteries in a slightly odd small town full of dubious characters. Just, uh... don't go checking out the American remake, for god's sake.

    imo Broadchurch S1 was a perfect season of television, but that it might have been better left as a single season - 2 and 3 are still fine, but don't manage to reach the same height
    I feel like it was probably a poor decision to focus S2 so much around Joe's bullshit. There was enough emotional and social fallout from S1 to chew on already without him pulling focus.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Wife liked Strange New Worlds so much that she decided to go back and check out some Discovery

    Hoo, boy. Distracting camera work, terrible Klingons, war crimes at the top of the season, this is a rough start

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Wife liked Strange New Worlds so much that she decided to go back and check out some Discovery

    Hoo, boy. Distracting camera work, terrible Klingons, war crimes at the top of the season, this is a rough start

    Season one is roooough. And I say that as someone who really, really loves the show. I like season one, but that's largely on the back of the second half of the season (it's split into two relatively defined arcs), and the fact that that second half arc is a take on one of my personal favorite classic Trek bits.

    But yeah, it's VERY much trying to ape the bombast and drama and danger of the JJ movies, and largely taking the worst, most superficial parts of them.

    If it helps, season two gets better, and then seasons 3 and 4 (especially 4) are some of my favorite Trek ever. They absolutely feel like they mostly learn the right lessons as the show goes on. It still veers a little darker than most Trek from time to time, but they steer the ship towards the stuff that works best and leave behind the stuff that doesn't.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    Discovery first season really wanted to have its cake and eat it too by making a new, darker Star Trek and then a twist of 'surprise it's not actually darker!'

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Oh, and season 2 is where some of the future SNW cast joins the show for the bulk of the season, including Pike, Spock, and Una. It's a lot of fun, and you get to see exactly why Pike and Spock specifically worked so well that they ended up getting their own show.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    I haven't watched most of Bryan Fuller's shows (don't tell me to watch Hannibal, I'm not gonna), but the man clearly knows how to make a TV show. I would love to know if he really thought that scene where the Klingons mumble about nonsense for like 15 minutes was a good idea to put in the first episode (or any episode).

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    The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Wife liked Strange New Worlds so much that she decided to go back and check out some Discovery

    Hoo, boy. Distracting camera work, terrible Klingons, war crimes at the top of the season, this is a rough start

    Season one is roooough. And I say that as someone who really, really loves the show. I like season one, but that's largely on the back of the second half of the season (it's split into two relatively defined arcs), and the fact that that second half arc is a take on one of my personal favorite classic Trek bits.

    But yeah, it's VERY much trying to ape the bombast and drama and danger of the JJ movies, and largely taking the worst, most superficial parts of them.

    If it helps, season two gets better, and then seasons 3 and 4 (especially 4) are some of my favorite Trek ever. They absolutely feel like they mostly learn the right lessons as the show goes on. It still veers a little darker than most Trek from time to time, but they steer the ship towards the stuff that works best and leave behind the stuff that doesn't.

    Yeah, it's a mess. Reportedly the writer's room and other behind the scenes stuff was full of churn.

    Doug Jones as Saru is great though! And without Disco we don't get SNW, so I can forgive it's sins somewhat

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    In addition to the credits being bad, secret invasion is both slow and dulmb

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Wife liked Strange New Worlds so much that she decided to go back and check out some Discovery

    Hoo, boy. Distracting camera work, terrible Klingons, war crimes at the top of the season, this is a rough start

    The first half of s1 is real not great. It doesn’t really find its legs until s2, but when it does it takes off and never stops. Also Rainn Wilson as harry mudd rules super hard

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    In addition to the credits being bad, secret invasion is both slow and dulmb

    yeah it's a marvel show on disney+

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    In addition to the credits being bad, secret invasion is both slow and dulmb

    yeah it's a marvel show on disney+

    Sometime it is just one!

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Bloods End wrote: »
    In addition to the credits being bad, secret invasion is both slow and dulmb

    yeah it's a marvel show on disney+

    I don't think we really need to be more specific than "a show on disney+"

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Bloods End wrote: »
    In addition to the credits being bad, secret invasion is both slow and dulmb

    yeah it's a marvel show on disney+

    I don't think we really need to be more specific than "a show on disney+"
    Mando and andor are both good! Moon knight and ms marvel were both good until they remembered they were marvel properties and had terrible season finales

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Bloods End wrote: »
    In addition to the credits being bad, secret invasion is both slow and dulmb

    yeah it's a marvel show on disney+

    I don't think we really need to be more specific than "a show on disney+"

    Andor was pretty good!

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Secret Invasion ep 1 was fine to good at moments. But as always, I'm their dumb target audience, so my review can't really be trusted.

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    edited June 2023
    So I thought Based on a True Story was pretty good so far, but then in this episode a dog drop kicked a dude into a fire pit and he thrashed around until he had full body third degree burns.

    So it might be the best show of 2023 is what I’m saying.

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Both the star wars visions volumes have been baller. And bad batch!

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    So I thought Based on a True Story was pretty good so far, but then in this episode a dog drop kicked a dude into a fire pit and he thrashed around until he had full body third degree burns.

    So it might be the best show of 2023 is what I’m saying.

    Well fuck…I am SOLD

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