newest update broke the [TECH] thread

Tynnan

The thinness also feels like one of those planned obsolescence "features" where the different elements wot get hot are too close to the stuff that doesn't want hot.

Shadowfire

Nah, TVs really don't run hot anymore. You get heat from the CPU, sure, but plasma screens were space heaters. Even older LED screens would run hotter than a modern OLED. The planned obselence nowadays is in the software, and in designing things right within tolerances and no better.

Weaver

You don't even really have many components now anyways if your TV breaks. Had to do a warranty repair on our newest, once the back cover comes off, there's just the small main board with the inputs, proc/memory/wifi/etc, and the display panel as just one complete contained unit. Replace one or the other.

Shadowfire

Depends on the TV. Usually you have a main board, power supply board, and some other little stuff - separate wifi/BT board (just like in a laptop), speakers, the IR sensor, stuff like that. They used to have a separate TCON but those are usually soldered to the panel now. But the higher end the TV, the bigger those main boards often are to make room for the inputs and extra leads.

KalTorak

these days I'm pretty sure TVs work by magic

Jedoc

Always have.

furlion

KalTorak wrote: »

these days I'm pretty sure TVs work by magic

I know if you feed one the wrong kind of electricity the magic smoke comes out and they stop working.

Raijin Quickfoot

My tv works on the eldritch blood of Carey Grant

Uriel

Uriel wrote: »

Lmao speaking of my lg OLED

I got the webos 24 update

And now my soundbar won't work over arc lol

I had to unplug the TV and plug it back in for some reason

Jasconius

when you mounted a plasma tv you didnt fear for the TV, you feared for the WALL.....

i actually just tossed my old panasonic plasma... great TV in its time but a very very old flavor of 720p and modern games just look terrible on it, they don't count on being played on TVs where you can literally see the pixels

Karl

I am 100% paying John Lewis (they're a department store in the UK, not a person) to fit my TV to the wall when I order one.

I can say with absolute certainty that I'd fuck up an install like that

Shadowfire

Jasconius wrote: »

when you mounted a plasma tv you didnt fear for the TV, you feared for the WALL.....

i actually just tossed my old panasonic plasma... great TV in its time but a very very old flavor of 720p and modern games just look terrible on it, they don't count on being played on TVs where you can literally see the pixels

Nah, as long as you've got the lags into the studs no TV is bringing down your wall. I would put the brackets on the wall and then hang from them to be sure, and I'm a real fat dude.

Also pulled down a lot of CRTs from wall mounts and those are adding not only weight but leverage to the walls.

Mortal Sky

Jedoc wrote: »

Always have.

remember when we used to put barely-shielded particle accelerators in our homes for entertainment?

webguy20

Still rocking my Panasonic plasma from back in 2013. Still looks damn good.

Cormac

I'm still using a Panasonic Viera plasma for one of my TV's. It's somehow still working and still looks good compared to my much larger LG OLED.

BahamutZERO

We'd probably still be using our late 00s plasma TV but there was a lightning strike about a block away, and alas it was the only appliance that didn't turn on anymore

webguy20

Cormac wrote: »

I'm still using a Panasonic Viera plasma for one of my TV's. It's somehow still working and still looks good compared to my much larger LG OLED.

No motion smoothing, high refresh rates and incredibly vivid blacks and bright colors were huge boons back when even mid range LCD TVs were struggling with light bleed and stuff. It really gave them legs even with their downsides.

furlion

I wonder if the electricity savings, like on a global scale, from switching to lcd/led from plasma has offset the carbon cost yet. Probably not. But damn you could heat a room just from the TV with some of those things.

Madican

I've gotten to use my parents massive TV for games before, but I think that even with higher resolution there's such a thing as TOO big to comfortably keep track of everything needed in a game.

Snowbear

Hello LG C4 thread.
Thoughts on the C4 vs the Samsung S90C?

Shadowfire

Samsung has a shit interface and they'll keep trying to make you label your inputs a specific way, will try and force their smoothing stuff on inputs if you don't specifically label them as PC inputs, and are a pain in the ass. LG at least runs well as a TV off the network.

Others are happier with Samsung. They are wrong, but it's ok to be wrong sometimes.

Kadith

I have 95B and I really wish I'd bought an LG instead, you get Dolby Vision support and an interface and remote that actually works.

Dixon

Shadowfire wrote: »

Samsung has a shit interface and they'll keep trying to make you label your inputs a specific way, will try and force their smoothing stuff on inputs if you don't specifically label them as PC inputs, and are a pain in the ass. LG at least runs well as a TV off the network.

Others are happier with Samsung. They are wrong, but it's ok to be wrong sometimes.

I am inclined to agree

user

The Samsung 90C and D are very interesting displays ... because at a certain size, 77" they are actually not WOLED panels, but QD-OLEDs which is blanket a superior technology over anything LG has on offer.

Shadowfire

Kadith wrote: »

I have 95B and I really wish I'd bought an LG instead, you get Dolby Vision support and an interface and remote that actually works.

Oh I forgot about that. For the price they're charging, being cheap about Dolby Vision support is pretty asinine.

Librarian's ghost

What is this Dolby vision thing?

ChicoBlue

I think someone blinded him with something?

user

Dolby Vision is another way to encode high-dynamic range metadata (aka the enhanced contrast of modern displays), traditional HDR10 carries metadata for a field of brightness that's applied across the entirety of the content, Dolby Vision is more granular and has dynamic metadata on a scene by scene basis.

The basic difference is DV has higher peak brightness (4,000 nit vs 1,000) and 12 bit color depth, and HDR10 has only 10 bit color depth.

But Dolby charges licensing fees and so it's more expensive to implement, not just on devices but also on content. So its not like every single movie supports DV.

And I'm not pointing out the latter as a hater, my own TV supports DV -- I'm just saying to get the true experience is rare because only the 4K UHD discs have what's called the real Full Enhancement Layer (FEL) and most always when you just stream DV its not really better than HDR10 because it's not doing the same scene by scene metadata shifting that FEL does.

Uriel

DVDs were cool do you guys remember DVDs?

Hey hey what was the first DVD you remember buying?

I think I bought 300 by visionary director Zack Snyder

user

Uriel wrote: »

DVDs were cool do you guys remember DVDs?

Hey hey what was the first DVD you remember buying?

I think I bought 300 by visionary director Zack Snyder

Hmm, I don't think I ever bought DVDs but I definitely had Netflix back when they used to send DVDs in the mail.

Uriel

I think we had a copy of battlefield Earth?

What a fuckin stupid movie

Oh also back then I was still used to tapes so the concept of watching a movie and immediately watching it again was so alien to me but my niece wanted to watch Scooby Doo all the time. Just non stop.

Oh also the time I was somewhere where there were other kids my age and they put Shrek on like 8 times a day... I was so tired of Shrek.

Librarian's ghost

I should probably watch something on this new Tv that makes use of all the fancy HDR Dolby vision thing. What should I watch?

Uriel

Librarian's ghost wrote: »

I should probably watch something on this new Tv that makes use of all the fancy HDR Dolby vision thing. What should I watch?

Get the 4k bluray of that there furiousa

Tynnan

Hmm. Blade Runner 2049?

user

Both of those are brilliant picks. In my experience even though a lot of older movies get the DV treatment it's not really going to wow you until you get to movies made at least in the mid aughts.

And I don't mean to diminish the experience of streaming either. It's definitely still totally capable of giving you a wow factor on an OLED whether in HDR10 or DV. But do keep in mind that a lot of the streamers now charge a premium to get the 4K HDR stuff like you need the most expensive Netflix tier, a specifically paid for MAX tier (bundled with your mobile or cable service doesn't do it), and you have to pay the three bucks extra a month to get DV from Prime (although Rings of Power and Fallout look awesome in DV) .

I think Disney+ is the only service that hasn't yet enshittified even their ad supported tier to not have 4K HDR.

Uriel

Having watched furiousa on an lg OLED I can say those dark scenes are fuckin dark and those light scenes are fuckin bright

Tynnan

Alt answer: anything else shot by Roger Deakins

Jasconius

i dont remember the first dvd i bought but i remember the first dvd i ever watched (rented) was Shaft w/ Samuel L Jackson... a movie i have not heard about or seen since then, its possible i simply hallucinated its existence

Shadowfire

I used to use The Matrix as the Home Theater showpiece when I got a new TV or sound system. But now... hmm...

I think Fury Road might be the one for visuals.
Hot Fuzz might still be my soundstage movie though.

Dixon

blade runner 2049 is always my top choice.

Some others I like

- Fury Road
- Interstellar
- 2001 Space Odyssey
- The Shining
- The Revenant
- Into the Spiderverse
- Top Gun: Maverick


I also recently enjoyed Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem watching with the little kiddo, art style looks great on the OLED.

I'm betting Alien Romulus will be amazing, can't wait to grab that on 4k.