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Yeah I'm a nerd who has read more indictments and cases than most, and this one is as focused and complete and cutting off any line of attack against it as I've ever seen.
I mean court of public opinion and all that bullshit aside, this is a legal silver bullet best I can tell.
I feel that picture is too flattering of Trump. But it may just be because black and white photos tend to give things a weird sense of respectability.
Oh, if you pull up the original for this specific image, the edit is very intentional. Trump's nerves clearly drove him to quadruple down on his Wish.com spray tan, so he looks like a goddam oompa loompa who got sunburned in Pripyat.
They’re just screaming “free speech” because there’s no actual defense for what he did
I dunno, There is a fair argument to be made that Trump is too stupid and narcicistic to understand that it was possible for him to fail despite:
1. needing to bail out farmers twice
2. abandoning allies in syria.
3. the horrific state of the border camps.
4. racism.
5. so much racism.
6. Allegations of sexual abuse.
7. An executive branch that made the court of king jofferey look like the very definition of integrity and efficiency.
8. His disturbing relationship with Putin.
9. Getting outplayed by a kim jong
10. Looking like a super villain while touching an orb.
11. Blind firing tariffs.
12. Covid.
13. Like seriously fucking covid.
14. Golf.
15. his ineffectual pissing match with china.
16. his handling of the BLM protests.
17. His handling of the Charlottevill protests.
18. The high point of his polling being on day 6 of his presidency when he had a 47% approval rating.
Like I legitimately want him to sit there while his lawyers explain to a jury how fucking stupid and untethered from reality he actually is.
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Not to nitpick but who holds an umbrella like that?
They’re just screaming “free speech” because there’s no actual defense for what he did
I dunno, There is a fair argument to be made that Trump is too stupid and narcicistic to understand that it was possible for him to fail despite:
1. needing to bail out farmers twice
2. abandoning allies in syria.
3. the horrific state of the border camps.
4. racism.
5. so much racism.
6. Allegations of sexual abuse.
7. An executive branch that made the court of king jofferey look like the very definition of integrity and efficiency.
8. His disturbing relationship with Putin.
9. Getting outplayed by a kim jong
10. Looking like a super villain while touching an orb.
11. Blind firing tariffs.
12. Covid.
13. Like seriously fucking covid.
14. Golf.
15. his ineffectual pissing match with china.
16. his handling of the BLM protests.
17. His handling of the Charlottevill protests.
18. The high point of his polling being on day 6 of his presidency when he had a 47% approval rating.
Like I legitimately want him to sit there while his lawyers explain to a jury how fucking stupid and untethered from reality he actually is.
None of which matter to the criminal acts he conspired to do.
So like, if he is so delusional he really truly believes the election was stolen how does that factor in to the charges?
In a sane and equitable system, about as much as if (general) you were so delusional you walked into a bank vault and crowbarred open all the safety deposit boxes and hoarded all the contents like a money hamster because you were sure (in your delusion) that your life savings had been split amongst them all.
Sure you believe its your money. But it wasn’t and you did shit that was out of board to get it.
Except in this case it’s not ripping open a bunch of safety deposit boxes, it’s attempting a fuckin’ coup
3. The Defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and even to claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election and that he had won. He was also entitled to formally challenge the results of the election through lawful and appropriate means, such as by seeking recounts or audits of the popular vote in states or filing lawsuits challenging ballots and procedures. Indeed, in many cases, the Defendant did pursue these methods of contesting the election results. His efforts to change the outcome in any state through recounts, audits, or legal challenges were uniformly unsuccessful.
4. Shortly after election day, the Defendant also pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results. In so doing, the Defendant perpetrated three criminal conspiracies:
a. A conspiracy to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified by the federal government, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371;
b. A conspiracy to corruptly obstruct and impede the January 6 congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified ("the certification proceeding"), in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1512(k);and
c. A conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one's vote counted, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 241.
Each of these conspiracies—which built on the widespread mistrust the Defendant was creating through pervasive and destabilizing lies about election fraud—targeted a bedrock function of the United States federal government: the nation's process of collecting, counting, and certifying the results of the presidential election ("the federal government function").
It's a great argument from Jack Smith, he can certainly exercise his 1A, but basically by going through the exercises to challenge the results and lose so many times across so many venues so handily it's a hard to argue you didn't know. I would also wager Jack Smith has really good evidence to prove trump knew, we are only seeing the supporting evidence making case to indict, what comes out in trial is likely going to be far more damning.
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Not to nitpick but who holds an umbrella like that?
I have occasionally when it's been super windy/rainy and I felt that the lower center of gravity for the umbrella would be better for me to hold onto it/not get soaked.
Considering the Jan 6 committee showed us all video testimony from multiple people around him informing him to his face that he lost the election and his efforts to override the election were illegal from AG Barr, Acting AG Jeff Rosen, and Deputy AG Rosenstein as well as his own white House counsel and deputy white House counsel, I think the doj can make a ridiculously good case about how he knew what he was doing was wrong. Oh I forgot also the incredibly powerful testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson who told us about his behavior and state of mind after being briefed by all the above people
Like Jack Smith could just sit back and invite Jamie Raskin to make his case again and we'd be good.
Now thinking back, I am a little sad that Jack Smith didn't hit him with witness intimidation/obstruction over threatening and trying to silence Hutchens and other congressional witnesses to the Committee.
When is the last time someone made that asshole wait for anything?
Even better: along with his over-aggressive handshake style, deliberately making people wait for him in meetings is part of his bullshit toxic alpha-male domination habit. It's delicious to see that tactic turned around on him so that half the reports about the arraignment mention him squirming the whole time.
When is the last time someone made that asshole wait for anything?
Even better: along with his over-aggressive handshake style, deliberately making people wait for him in meetings is part of his bullshit toxic alpha-male domination habit. It's delicious to see that tactic turned around on him so that half the reports about the arraignment mention him squirming the whole time.
It's one of the most petty ways to remind him he's not in control here, and I am all for it.
They’re just screaming “free speech” because there’s no actual defense for what he did
I dunno, There is a fair argument to be made that Trump is too stupid and narcicistic to understand that it was possible for him to fail despite:
1. needing to bail out farmers twice
2. abandoning allies in syria.
3. the horrific state of the border camps.
4. racism.
5. so much racism.
6. Allegations of sexual abuse.
7. An executive branch that made the court of king jofferey look like the very definition of integrity and efficiency.
8. His disturbing relationship with Putin.
9. Getting outplayed by a kim jong
10. Looking like a super villain while touching an orb.
11. Blind firing tariffs.
12. Covid.
13. Like seriously fucking covid.
14. Golf.
15. his ineffectual pissing match with china.
16. his handling of the BLM protests.
17. His handling of the Charlottevill protests.
18. The high point of his polling being on day 6 of his presidency when he had a 47% approval rating.
Like I legitimately want him to sit there while his lawyers explain to a jury how fucking stupid and untethered from reality he actually is.
19. The giant fuck you to Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria because the local officials wouldn't kiss his ass.
When is the last time someone made that asshole wait for anything?
Even better: along with his over-aggressive handshake style, deliberately making people wait for him in meetings is part of his bullshit toxic alpha-male domination habit. It's delicious to see that tactic turned around on him so that half the reports about the arraignment mention him squirming the whole time.
Squirming and refusing to meet the gaze of Jack Smith.
I feel that picture is too flattering of Trump. But it may just be because black and white photos tend to give things a weird sense of respectability.
Oh, if you pull up the original for this specific image, the edit is very intentional. Trump's nerves clearly drove him to quadruple down on his Wish.com spray tan, so he looks like a goddam oompa loompa who got sunburned in Pripyat.
Yeah honestly by removing the ability to see the fake tan bs he does, he immediately looks much healthier and better.
I feel that picture is too flattering of Trump. But it may just be because black and white photos tend to give things a weird sense of respectability.
Oh, if you pull up the original for this specific image, the edit is very intentional. Trump's nerves clearly drove him to quadruple down on his Wish.com spray tan, so he looks like a goddam oompa loompa who got sunburned in Pripyat.
Yeah honestly by removing the ability to see the fake tan bs he does, he immediately looks much healthier and better.
I feel that picture is too flattering of Trump. But it may just be because black and white photos tend to give things a weird sense of respectability.
Oh, if you pull up the original for this specific image, the edit is very intentional. Trump's nerves clearly drove him to quadruple down on his Wish.com spray tan, so he looks like a goddam oompa loompa who got sunburned in Pripyat.
Yeah honestly by removing the ability to see the fake tan bs he does, he immediately looks much healthier and better.
Looks like he lost a little weight. Ozempic?
Maybe, but then we start getting into body image stuff that I feel much more grossing talking about or speculating on.
They’re just screaming “free speech” because there’s no actual defense for what he did
I dunno, There is a fair argument to be made that Trump is too stupid and narcicistic to understand that it was possible for him to fail despite:
1. needing to bail out farmers twice
2. abandoning allies in syria.
3. the horrific state of the border camps.
4. racism.
5. so much racism.
6. Allegations of sexual abuse.
7. An executive branch that made the court of king jofferey look like the very definition of integrity and efficiency.
8. His disturbing relationship with Putin.
9. Getting outplayed by a kim jong
10. Looking like a super villain while touching an orb.
11. Blind firing tariffs.
12. Covid.
13. Like seriously fucking covid.
14. Golf.
15. his ineffectual pissing match with china.
16. his handling of the BLM protests.
17. His handling of the Charlottevill protests.
18. The high point of his polling being on day 6 of his presidency when he had a 47% approval rating.
Like I legitimately want him to sit there while his lawyers explain to a jury how fucking stupid and untethered from reality he actually is.
None of which matter to the criminal acts he conspired to do.
"Your honor, It goes to establishing the case that the defendant is an idiot, that he has a brain that is not merely smooth but in point of fact a perfect frictionless impermeable orb. Like holy shit is he stupid! Just look at him sitting there slathered in so much spray on tan it looks like he soaked overnight in a fucking vat of pepperoni oil and expects these rational, intelligent people of the jury to believe that it is in fact natural and healthy."
I think the biggest barrier in Trump's proposed defense of "he's too stupid to realize that he was wrong/committing crimes" is Trump himself. I don't know if his ego can take being called stupid over and over again, especially in court by his own attorneys.
I think the biggest barrier in Trump's proposed defense of "he's too stupid to realize that he was wrong/committing crimes" is Trump himself. I don't know if his ego can take being called stupid over and over again, especially in court by his own attorneys.
I mean, him getting angry at being called stupid and narcicistic would actually support the case.
And while I'm positing this for the most part from a position of mirth, Arguing that trump is too mentally incompetent to understand what he was doing was wrong is probably the best defense they can run with given the sheer volume of documentation on the subject.
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Biden is a crime lord and the most corrupt president ever.
Biden is masterfully using the justice department to attack his enemies.
Never underestimate their mastery of cognitive dissonance.
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I think the biggest barrier in Trump's proposed defense of "he's too stupid to realize that he was wrong/committing crimes" is Trump himself. I don't know if his ego can take being called stupid over and over again, especially in court by his own attorneys.
I mean, him getting angry at being called stupid and narcicistic would actually support the case.
And while I'm positing this for the most part from a position of mirth, Arguing that trump is too mentally incompetent to understand what he was doing was wrong is probably the best defense they can run with given the sheer volume of documentation on the subject.
The oxymoronic thing is that defense should disqualify him from being elected again. But it wouldn't.
It's been the thing that has most frustrated me since 2015.
"Trump was too naive/ignorant/stupid/emotional/poor-a-judge-of-character to do better."
"He doesn't seem capable of learning/changing. This is the umpteenth time."
"That’s fair."
"So, you're not supporting re-election?"
"Oh, absolutely I am. TRUMP 2020 2024!"
Strictly speaking there is nothing in the constitution that requires any degree of intellect or mental stability.
My problem with framing things as "he thought he had won the election but people told him that he lost so he should have known" is that Trump's grift, the story that a vast number of Republicans still believe, is that the election was tampered with. It's not that Trump misunderstood the news report and thought they said he won and got all confused. It's that there was deliberate tampering, whether they believe it to be Dominion machines or random election workers throwing papers away or all the other nonsense people toss around. Lots of them don't even necessarily believe in any specific fraud, since each proposed means of fraud has been solidily debunked, but they just have this vague sense that "it doesn't pass the vibe check, it's suspicious and everyone knows it". So like all conspiracy theories, the fact that officials informed Trump of the truth of his loss just solidifies their theory: look at how many people are "in on it"!
So in court he says he was confused or he didn't say it or people misinterpreted him or whatever, but none of those diminish him in the eyes of the voters because they still think he was right to call for a coup (and also they think it wasn't a coup).
Not to nitpick but who holds an umbrella like that?
I have occasionally when it's been super windy/rainy and I felt that the lower center of gravity for the umbrella would be better for me to hold onto it/not get soaked.
Donald J. Trump: an everyman; so much like the rest of us.
I think the biggest barrier in Trump's proposed defense of "he's too stupid to realize that he was wrong/committing crimes" is Trump himself. I don't know if his ego can take being called stupid over and over again, especially in court by his own attorneys.
I mean, him getting angry at being called stupid and narcicistic would actually support the case.
And while I'm positing this for the most part from a position of mirth, Arguing that trump is too mentally incompetent to understand what he was doing was wrong is probably the best defense they can run with given the sheer volume of documentation on the subject.
The oxymoronic thing is that defense should disqualify him from being elected again. But it wouldn't.
It's been the thing that has most frustrated me since 2015.
"Trump was too naive/ignorant/stupid/emotional/poor-a-judge-of-character to do better."
"He doesn't seem capable of learning/changing. This is the umpteenth time."
"That’s fair."
"So, you're not supporting re-election?"
"Oh, absolutely I am. TRUMP 2020 2024!"
Strictly speaking there is nothing in the constitution that requires any degree of intellect or mental stability.
Ironically, this is what the Electoral College was for.
When is the last time someone made that asshole wait for anything?
Even better: along with his over-aggressive handshake style, deliberately making people wait for him in meetings is part of his bullshit toxic alpha-male domination habit. It's delicious to see that tactic turned around on him so that half the reports about the arraignment mention him squirming the whole time.
It's one of the most petty ways to remind him he's not in control here, and I am all for it.
The story out this morning is that he had a big mad that the presiding judge referred to him as Mr. Trump instead of President Trump like he forces all his employees to do at his multiple golf clubs. Honestly though, his instincts seem way out of whack on this one. He keeps going on about poll numbers and calling DC dirty on Truth Social. No one gives a shit about his poll numbers right now.
Still can't get over how well written, for public consumption, the first pages of the indictment are. They're clear, concise and persuasive; they set out the what, how and why it was bad in language so clear I didn't know legal people could write; and of course it's not getting picked up on in favor of gallons of ink on front pages of bad takes and opinion. Jeez.
My problem with framing things as "he thought he had won the election but people told him that he lost so he should have known" is that Trump's grift, the story that a vast number of Republicans still believe, is that the election was tampered with. It's not that Trump misunderstood the news report and thought they said he won and got all confused. It's that there was deliberate tampering, whether they believe it to be Dominion machines or random election workers throwing papers away or all the other nonsense people toss around. Lots of them don't even necessarily believe in any specific fraud, since each proposed means of fraud has been solidily debunked, but they just have this vague sense that "it doesn't pass the vibe check, it's suspicious and everyone knows it". So like all conspiracy theories, the fact that officials informed Trump of the truth of his loss just solidifies their theory: look at how many people are "in on it"!
So in court he says he was confused or he didn't say it or people misinterpreted him or whatever, but none of those diminish him in the eyes of the voters because they still think he was right to call for a coup (and also they think it wasn't a coup).
Conveniently, though, there are numerous documented instances of Trump conceding that he lost, that he knew he lost, and that he was trying to do illegal things to steal the election. "You're too honest" to Pence, for example.
I mean, it won't convince his supporters of anything, because they don't want to be convinced.
But it will be nice to publicly parade around the fact that even Trump knew he had lost and just didn't care because he wanted his squeaky toy.
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Still can't get over how well written, for public consumption, the first pages of the indictment are. They're clear, concise and persuasive; they set out the what, how and why it was bad in language so clear I didn't know legal people could write; and of course it's not getting picked up on in favor of gallons of ink on front pages of bad takes and opinion. Jeez.
If Trump gets put away they lose out on the perpetual outrage machine that fuels clicks and page views.
My problem with framing things as "he thought he had won the election but people told him that he lost so he should have known" is that Trump's grift, the story that a vast number of Republicans still believe, is that the election was tampered with. It's not that Trump misunderstood the news report and thought they said he won and got all confused. It's that there was deliberate tampering, whether they believe it to be Dominion machines or random election workers throwing papers away or all the other nonsense people toss around. Lots of them don't even necessarily believe in any specific fraud, since each proposed means of fraud has been solidily debunked, but they just have this vague sense that "it doesn't pass the vibe check, it's suspicious and everyone knows it". So like all conspiracy theories, the fact that officials informed Trump of the truth of his loss just solidifies their theory: look at how many people are "in on it"!
So in court he says he was confused or he didn't say it or people misinterpreted him or whatever, but none of those diminish him in the eyes of the voters because they still think he was right to call for a coup (and also they think it wasn't a coup).
Conveniently, though, there are numerous documented instances of Trump conceding that he lost, that he knew he lost, and that he was trying to do illegal things to steal the election. "You're too honest" to Pence, for example.
I mean, it won't convince his supporters of anything, because they don't want to be convinced.
But it will be nice to publicly parade around the fact that even Trump knew he had lost and just didn't care because he wanted his squeaky toy.
Has he ever actually admitted to, like, getting fewer votes though? Because admission that he lost could still be construed as "admitting that he was declared the loser of a rigged game".
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I mean court of public opinion and all that bullshit aside, this is a legal silver bullet best I can tell.
It's also one of the most true statements he has ever made. Just, not how he intended it.
Oh, if you pull up the original for this specific image, the edit is very intentional. Trump's nerves clearly drove him to quadruple down on his Wish.com spray tan, so he looks like a goddam oompa loompa who got sunburned in Pripyat.
That alone is maybe the most punishment he's personally faced yet for *waves hand at all the bullshit*
So, off to a good start.
I dunno, There is a fair argument to be made that Trump is too stupid and narcicistic to understand that it was possible for him to fail despite:
1. needing to bail out farmers twice
2. abandoning allies in syria.
3. the horrific state of the border camps.
4. racism.
5. so much racism.
6. Allegations of sexual abuse.
7. An executive branch that made the court of king jofferey look like the very definition of integrity and efficiency.
8. His disturbing relationship with Putin.
9. Getting outplayed by a kim jong
10. Looking like a super villain while touching an orb.
11. Blind firing tariffs.
12. Covid.
13. Like seriously fucking covid.
14. Golf.
15. his ineffectual pissing match with china.
16. his handling of the BLM protests.
17. His handling of the Charlottevill protests.
18. The high point of his polling being on day 6 of his presidency when he had a 47% approval rating.
Like I legitimately want him to sit there while his lawyers explain to a jury how fucking stupid and untethered from reality he actually is.
None of which matter to the criminal acts he conspired to do.
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In a sane and equitable system, about as much as if (general) you were so delusional you walked into a bank vault and crowbarred open all the safety deposit boxes and hoarded all the contents like a money hamster because you were sure (in your delusion) that your life savings had been split amongst them all.
Sure you believe its your money. But it wasn’t and you did shit that was out of board to get it.
Except in this case it’s not ripping open a bunch of safety deposit boxes, it’s attempting a fuckin’ coup
It's a great argument from Jack Smith, he can certainly exercise his 1A, but basically by going through the exercises to challenge the results and lose so many times across so many venues so handily it's a hard to argue you didn't know. I would also wager Jack Smith has really good evidence to prove trump knew, we are only seeing the supporting evidence making case to indict, what comes out in trial is likely going to be far more damning.
I have occasionally when it's been super windy/rainy and I felt that the lower center of gravity for the umbrella would be better for me to hold onto it/not get soaked.
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Like Jack Smith could just sit back and invite Jamie Raskin to make his case again and we'd be good.
Now thinking back, I am a little sad that Jack Smith didn't hit him with witness intimidation/obstruction over threatening and trying to silence Hutchens and other congressional witnesses to the Committee.
Someone who eats his steak well-done with ketchup.
Even better: along with his over-aggressive handshake style, deliberately making people wait for him in meetings is part of his bullshit toxic alpha-male domination habit. It's delicious to see that tactic turned around on him so that half the reports about the arraignment mention him squirming the whole time.
It's one of the most petty ways to remind him he's not in control here, and I am all for it.
19. The giant fuck you to Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria because the local officials wouldn't kiss his ass.
Squirming and refusing to meet the gaze of Jack Smith.
Yeah honestly by removing the ability to see the fake tan bs he does, he immediately looks much healthier and better.
Looks like he lost a little weight. Ozempic?
Maybe, but then we start getting into body image stuff that I feel much more grossing talking about or speculating on.
"Your honor, It goes to establishing the case that the defendant is an idiot, that he has a brain that is not merely smooth but in point of fact a perfect frictionless impermeable orb. Like holy shit is he stupid! Just look at him sitting there slathered in so much spray on tan it looks like he soaked overnight in a fucking vat of pepperoni oil and expects these rational, intelligent people of the jury to believe that it is in fact natural and healthy."
I mean, him getting angry at being called stupid and narcicistic would actually support the case.
And while I'm positing this for the most part from a position of mirth, Arguing that trump is too mentally incompetent to understand what he was doing was wrong is probably the best defense they can run with given the sheer volume of documentation on the subject.
Biden is a crime lord and the most corrupt president ever.
Biden is masterfully using the justice department to attack his enemies.
Never underestimate their mastery of cognitive dissonance.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Strictly speaking there is nothing in the constitution that requires any degree of intellect or mental stability.
So in court he says he was confused or he didn't say it or people misinterpreted him or whatever, but none of those diminish him in the eyes of the voters because they still think he was right to call for a coup (and also they think it wasn't a coup).
Donald J. Trump: an everyman; so much like the rest of us.
Ironically, this is what the Electoral College was for.
The story out this morning is that he had a big mad that the presiding judge referred to him as Mr. Trump instead of President Trump like he forces all his employees to do at his multiple golf clubs. Honestly though, his instincts seem way out of whack on this one. He keeps going on about poll numbers and calling DC dirty on Truth Social. No one gives a shit about his poll numbers right now.
Conveniently, though, there are numerous documented instances of Trump conceding that he lost, that he knew he lost, and that he was trying to do illegal things to steal the election. "You're too honest" to Pence, for example.
I mean, it won't convince his supporters of anything, because they don't want to be convinced.
But it will be nice to publicly parade around the fact that even Trump knew he had lost and just didn't care because he wanted his squeaky toy.
If Trump gets put away they lose out on the perpetual outrage machine that fuels clicks and page views.
Has he ever actually admitted to, like, getting fewer votes though? Because admission that he lost could still be construed as "admitting that he was declared the loser of a rigged game".