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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    What do you set as the over/under for months until they find his secret yatch?

    I say 2.5

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    What do you set as the over/under for months until they find his secret yatch?

    I say 2.5

    Perry Mason calls a pod of Orcas to the stand!

  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    But, I do agree with his lawyers subtext, "people that own yachts are all financial criminals"

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    In Lies, Damned Lies, And Statistics, we see Sam Bankman-Fried abuse undergrad math for his ego:


    I ask you, dear reader, in light of this evidence, for a posterior distribution on Bankman-Fried ever having passed a statistics course
    Literary critic, Sam Bankman-Fried, on Shakespeare:
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    Also, he blew off The Devil Who Wears Prada:
    Given the impression that Bankman-Fried’s distracted nods were a yes to her invite and requests for a sponsorship, Wintour “warmly,” writes Lewis, ended the conversation. But the FTX cofounder was unconvinced. “I would have to think hard if this is a thing I want to go to,” he said shortly after the call was over.

    Bankman-Fried’s team, though, planned as if he were going to the fashion event of the year, sounding out Louis Vuitton to see whether it was possible to design a couture version of Bankman-Fried’s T-shirt-and-cargo-pants uniform and paying Tom Ford to design an outfit replete with $65,000 cufflinks.

    Inevitably, however, Bankman-Fried backed out of the gala, and as opposed to the polite notes of understanding from the many other celebrities he’s bailed on, Wintour’s team was outraged. “They called and shouted and said Sam will never set foot in fashion again!” the former head of public relations at FTX told Lewis.

    You know, I'm really starting to think the boy...just ain't that bright.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    His Bayesian priors just aren't very favorable.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    There's stunning ignorance, and then there's that

  • fedaykin666fedaykin666 Registered User regular
    Dunning-Kruger effect.

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Forget statistics that's a literature failure. Shakespeare was special but I've almost never seen him cited as the greatest writer ever. Even the greatest of the English language, or just England, or even just English playwrights (though when you narrow it that much he is pretty consistently top ten).

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Saying Shakespeare was the greatest writer of all time is the sort of thing you would hear from a person who watches too much TV. Where he would always be name-dropped as such on an episode needed to a character about writing or whatever.

    You're muckin' with a G!

    Do not engage the Watermelons.
  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    Morbid curiosity compels me to ask what someone like SBF thinks "greatest writer" actually means

  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2023
    “…and it occurred to me that I was speaking with the person who would become the world’s first trillionaire”

    Honk on
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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    SBF wrote:
    I’m very skeptical of books. I don’t want to say no book is ever worth reading, but I actually do believe something pretty close to that. I think, if you wrote a book, you fucked up, and it should have been a six-paragraph blog post.

    He's a cretin.

  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Hevach wrote: »
    Forget statistics that's a literature failure. Shakespeare was special but I've almost never seen him cited as the greatest writer ever. Even the greatest of the English language, or just England, or even just English playwrights (though when you narrow it that much he is pretty consistently top ten).

    He's cited as the greatest playwright and greatest English language writer of all time constantly, by hordes of people, qualified and not.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    It is amazing how a person can still write a sympathetic book about him after actually knowing him

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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Nothing wrong with thinking Shakespeare is/n't the GOAT. Opinions and all that, plus he was pretty damn talented. Except SBF doesn't do books, so he's just doing a hot take with science sounding words that mean he doesn't actually have to back it up.

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    japan wrote: »
    Morbid curiosity compels me to ask what someone like SBF thinks "greatest writer" actually means

    The answer will not be very interesting considering he's said in interviews that books are dumb and he doesn't bother reading anything too long for a blog post.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    And then writes 80 paragraph blog posts that are eye-bleedingly boring and vacuous

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/03/michael-lewis-sam-bankman-fried-crypto-going-infinite
    Lewis has all the receipts. He discovers Bankman-Fried’s inability to lead a regular life – one involving sleep and clean clothes – and his imposition of the same kind of existence upon his employees. (One employee went 30 days without leaving FTX’s Hong Kong office.) He learns how, after starting a crypto trading firm called Alameda Research, Bankman-Fried misplaced $4m worth of a token called Ripple, only to find it again. He knows precisely what sort of romantic squabbles Bankman-Fried had with his girlfriend, whom he’d installed as CEO of Alameda when she was still in her mid-20s; in fact, Lewis even saw the notes that Bankman-Fried wrote her, taxonomising their relationship.
    Surely, this is a good person-A fool

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    "Taxonomising their relationship"? yeesh

  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Couscous wrote: »
    It is amazing how a person can still write a sympathetic book about him after actually knowing him

    I think he started out writing a book about him before there was any scandal as a sort of hey here's a super-genius kind of thing, and he's been unable to pivot into realising the guy was a con artist. It sounds like Lewis has been duped and can't come to terms with that, hence the "is fraud really a crime?" bullshit.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    Also there was a manuscript deadline and Lewis can turn what the current book should have become into a whole new book now

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    It is amazing how a person can still write a sympathetic book about him after actually knowing him

    I think he started out writing a book about him before there was any scandal as a sort of hey here's a super-genius kind of thing, and he's been unable to pivot into realising the guy was a con artist. It sounds like Lewis has been duped and can't come to terms with that, hence the "is fraud really a crime?" bullshit.

    He didn't create a Ponzi Scheme!

    Right, he's charged with embezzlement.

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited October 2023
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    His Bayesian priors just aren't very favorable.

    I'm NGL, any time I hear someone talk about bayesian bullshit, I don't even finish the sentence. I immediately shut down the computer and go outside to touch grass

    Spoit on
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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    His Bayesian priors just aren't very favorable.

    I'm NGL, any time I hear someone talk about bayesian bullshit, I immediately shut down the computer and go outside to touch grass

    It is a pretty good shibboleth

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    It is amazing how a person can still write a sympathetic book about him after actually knowing him

    I think he started out writing a book about him before there was any scandal as a sort of hey here's a super-genius kind of thing, and he's been unable to pivot into realising the guy was a con artist. It sounds like Lewis has been duped and can't come to terms with that, hence the "is fraud really a crime?" bullshit.

    I mean coffezilla pointed it out, lewis believes friedman more than friedman believes friedman that's just pathetic simping.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    His Bayesian priors just aren't very favorable.

    I'm NGL, any time I hear someone talk about bayesian bullshit, I don't even finish the sentence. I immediately shut down the computer and go outside to touch grass

    How so?

    Sic transit gloria mundi.
  • marajimaraji Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    His Bayesian priors just aren't very favorable.

    I'm NGL, any time I hear someone talk about bayesian bullshit, I immediately shut down the computer and go outside to touch grass

    It is a pretty good shibboleth

    Conditional probability is useful, but if you run across someone mentioning it in the real world they are probably just trying to sound smart.

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    It’s especially nonsensical in this case because like, Shakespeare was a real dude. Perhaps he was unlikely to exist but exist he did.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I thought it was still up in the air if there was one actual Shakespeare? Am I out of the history loop.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    You can tell a judge is pissed when he's sustaining objections you haven't made yet.

    Reminds me of my time at the DA's office.

    There was a pro-se dude in traffic court arguing his case. It's a very common strategy to let a pro-se defendant ramble on because it almost invariably hurts their case and helps you. At one point the judge looked the ADA dead in the eye and said "....objection counselor?"
    "Y-yes your honor?"
    "Sustained. Sit down [Mr. Pro se]"

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    His Bayesian priors just aren't very favorable.

    I'm NGL, any time I hear someone talk about bayesian bullshit, I don't even finish the sentence. I immediately shut down the computer and go outside to touch grass

    How so?

    Like monkier said, it's a shibboleth for particularly dumb subsets of SV and online "rationalists" types who are so far up their own ass that holding a normal conversation with them is next to impossible.

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  • ShadowhopeShadowhope Baa. Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    I thought it was still up in the air if there was one actual Shakespeare? Am I out of the history loop.

    We’ll never know for absolute certain that the person we call Shakespeare actually wrote all the plays attributed to them. But we don’t know this for certain in the same way we likely won’t ever know for certain if Covid is the result of a lab deliberately leaking a deadly virus for nefarious reasons. Which is to say, it’s considered most likely that Shakespeare actually did write his plays, and that Covid did not enter the world through a lab leak, but anyone looking for absolutely unassailable black and white proof is going to be disappointed.

    Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2023
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I thought it was still up in the air if there was one actual Shakespeare? Am I out of the history loop.

    We’ll never know for absolute certain that the person we call Shakespeare actually wrote all the plays attributed to them. But we don’t know this for certain in the same way we likely won’t ever know for certain if Covid is the result of a lab deliberately leaking a deadly virus for nefarious reasons. Which is to say, it’s considered most likely that Shakespeare actually did write his plays, and that Covid did not enter the world through a lab leak, but anyone looking for absolutely unassailable black and white proof is going to be disappointed.

    And if you get down to the details, almost no historical figure that wasn't photographed actually has this proof. It's very weird to write, "This person I'm talking about really existed, really did these things, was only one person, and fits the description provided." We know Jesus existed but can't be sure it was one man and not a movement. We can't be sure if Ea Nasir was one man or a shop employing multiple smiths. We view history through these scraps and information is incredibly easy to destroy.

    We can't conclusively disprove the theory that Socrates was a fiction created by Plato and all the works we credit to Socrates are indeed Plato's... and we likewise can't conclusively disprove that Plato was just a scribe to an elderly Socrates signing his own name and all the works we credit to Plato are indeed from Socrates.

    Both claims are without positive evidence, but what we believe to be true about them is reconstructed from various conflicting accounts, so if you want conclusive proof of either the evidence is going to come up short.

    Hevach on
  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited October 2023
    It also isn’t even relevant to SBFs total misunderstanding of the thing he’s blogging about

    Somewhere SBF has written blog posts about why it’s so weird that India doesn’t produce every gold medal Olympian

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  • marajimaraji Registered User regular
    It also isn’t even relevant to SBFs total misunderstanding of the thing he’s blogging about

    Somewhere SBF has written blog posts about why it’s so weird that India doesn’t produce every gold medal Olympian

    Across all of history.

  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited October 2023
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I thought it was still up in the air if there was one actual Shakespeare? Am I out of the history loop.

    We’ll never know for absolute certain that the person we call Shakespeare actually wrote all the plays attributed to them. But we don’t know this for certain in the same way we likely won’t ever know for certain if Covid is the result of a lab deliberately leaking a deadly virus for nefarious reasons. Which is to say, it’s considered most likely that Shakespeare actually did write his plays, and that Covid did not enter the world through a lab leak, but anyone looking for absolutely unassailable black and white proof is going to be disappointed.

    Not to mention most of the alternative hypotheses for who wrote it were almost purely class centric in origin, especially the claim that the Earl of Oxford really did it. None of the intelligencia of England in the 17th-19th centuries wanted to admit that some of the greatest drama and poetry ever written were done by a lower class guy and day player, with only a rural grammar school education and a love of Tyndal's biblical translations and Cranmer's book of common prayer.

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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Theory that Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare's stuff, that it was pen name for someone(s) else, has gotten a bit hotter recently. With the Shakespeare-was-Shakespeare side starting to tell the Shakespeare-wasn't-Shakespeare people to fuck all the way off. I can understand, since most of the alternate theories seem to start with the idea that Shakespeare didn't write things, and then attempt to sort out who actually did, as opposed to having something concrete indicating that Marlowe or someone did the writing and going from there.

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    There is no hard evidence for any of the "Shakespeare was really someone else" theories and they can be comfortably dismissed until such time as some appears.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2023
    So, let's see how many of our programmers on here wind up crying or cringing over FTX's code fraud.

    Like, the fraud was literally written into the code. This does not adhere to Stringer Bell Principles of Programming ("is you committing to git a criminal fucking conspiracy?")

    More here.

    Edit: This truly brings new meaning to "git blame".

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