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[Star Wars] Andor is coming back in April, thank fuck
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But then that's true for a lot of CRPGs these days for me, I cannot get my attention span to click with that genre for some reason
My big problem is that throughout all of star wars, probably (I think) the most core principle is that force users/jedi aren't made, they're born.
We have four seasons of Sabine not only explicitly not being a force user, but also several multi episode arcs where they specifically address that she does not have that connection to the force, and she doesn't need it because she's badass enough on her own.
Let cool characters exist outside of Jedi! Just let them fuckin exist!
I'm hopeful that they have her back in her mando armour at the end of ep2, but give that girl back her jetpack.
I also find rosario dawson is just so stiff. Like yeah ahsoka's been through a lot, and she would be serious when she needed to but at the core of the character she was still a positive person, and during her downtime would tend towards light-hearted moments. She shouldn't just be gloomy all the fuckin time.
Eye of Scion, I think.
As in "heir."
You know, to perhaps some sort of national unit.
Give her the jetpack!
For some reason the game feels much more insufferably slow and clumsy than KotOR1.
Also a lot more bleak.
And the only interesting character is Kreia. (Who is so very clearly NOT a Sith. Sith? What's a Sith? Never heard of 'em. MUST you label EVERYTHING?)
Kotor 1's backwater coruscant felt like a more appropriate, if generic for star wars, beginning sequence.
Wild that it's been 20 years since the game first dropped! Still don't think the "you're exploring the galaxy as your own character" vibe that game managed to land (granted didn't play the MMO) has been matched - the trailers for those newer games just give the impression of "hey you like star wars for the running gunning jumping pew pew right?!?!"
Kotor2 starts in the survival horror genre and nothing you know from Kotor1, Star Wars in general, or anything Kreia or Atton says is going to help shed light on what is going on until you get off that station. Then you get to build a crew, all of whom are lying to you but will only reward you when you figure out how to act in line with their real goals, fight badguys and/or Jedi Masters whose goals and conflicts are only vaguely explained, have to deal with several storylines that are unfinished dead ends and pin your hopes on really enjoying Kreia's provocative thoughts on the Lightside/Darkside paradigm and its effects on the mechanics of the video game itself. And yeah, the game can be bleak as hell because even if you're trying to shepherd everyone to a Lightside happy ending, not only do you have to uncover/resolve everyone's tragic backstory, your character isn't really saving the universe so much as finishing a fight they never started, and oh by the way Kreia's always there to tell you exactly how much your good intentions are worth vis a vis unintended consequences.
I like playing Kotor2, and I love the overall idea of it, but if you aren't picking up what it's putting down that game is a messy slog whose sole payoff may end up being Kreia simply telling you you played it wrong.
Even then, she tells you that you killed her the wrong way and she's very disappointed in your failure to learn her lessons.
Oh no, I am talking about the full Darkside version of the late game scene at the Enclave on Dantooine
However if you killed the Jedi Masters when you fought them earlier, there's no one to face at the Enclave and eventually Kreia berates you for being a failure of a student who refused to listen and to learn from her, robbing her of a victory over the Jedi by forcing them to see she was right. She stabs herself with a lightsaber to disable you through the bond and then tells you to wait here and die with all of her dreams. Kreia then leaves and your companions rescue your comatose form.
It's a very different scene if you played that way
Well I would have lost my shit if it was these two: