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[AI Art] Continues to be The Torment Nexus

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I don't honestly mind most of those features. Painting them all as AI is pretty dumb, but it's all.. fine?

    Changing the pictures is really dumb, of course. People who don't like their family having goofy faces don't understand the joy of life.

    We're back to pre-photography portraiture hung in the main gallery

    It isn't about capturing what your family is, it's about presenting your view of what your family should be to the world

    All displays of wealth and including objects that are metaphors for how important the subject is

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Some people just like having nice photos or artwork of their family and think they're neat, I think universally assuming that any sort of nice professional family photo/painting is meant primarily as a display of wealth is probably too harsh an assumption to bring to any home you're willing to visit socially.

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    (The main gallery in my analogy is social media

    Do whatever in your house)

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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    edited September 2023
    milski wrote: »
    Some people just like having nice photos or artwork of their family and think they're neat, I think universally assuming that any sort of nice professional family photo/painting is meant primarily as a display of wealth is probably too harsh an assumption to bring to any home you're willing to visit socially.

    We get a family phot session done once a year by a professional. Usually around the holidays to try and get some extended family in as well. It's just nice to have a classy record of time passing and this system gives decent odds that we'll have a photo of at least every grandparent and most aunts, uncles and cousins that are reasonably up to date. We also hang plenty of amateur photos taken by whoever throughout the year as well, mostly of the kids being cute or silly.

    Before now I'd never heard of anyone saying having pictures of your family hung was some kind of wealth display.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Rolling Stone has a good, long article entitled These Women Tried to Warn Us About AI.
    “There were no Black people — literally no Black people,” says Gebru, who was born and raised in Ethiopia. “I would go to academic conferences in AI, and I would see four or five Black people out of five, six, seven thousand people internationally.… I saw who was building the AI systems and their attitudes and their points of view. I saw what they were being used for, and I was like, ‘Oh, my God, we have a problem.’”
    “I’ve been yelling about this for a long time,” Gebru says. “This is a movement that’s been more than a decade in the making.”
    Buolamwini, whose book Unmasking AI comes out in October, was invited this summer to speak to President Biden at a closed-door roundtable about the power and risks of AI. She says she talked to Biden about how biometrics — the use of faces and other physical characteristics for identification — are increasingly being used for education, health care, and policing, and she raised the case of Williams and his wrongful imprisonment. She talked, too, about the seemingly benign use of facial recognition in public places like airports; TSA is using it now in dozens of cities. This type of public facial recognition has already been banned in the European Union because it was deemed discriminatory and invasive.
    Noble’s research for Algorithms of Oppression [: How Search Engines Reinforce Racism] started a few years earlier, when she used the search engine to look up activities for her daughter and nieces. When she typed in “Black girls,” the results were filled with racist pornography.

    “That was like pulling one thread that’s poking out of a sweater,” she says. “You’re like, ‘If I could fix this, then I can move on to something else.’ But I started pulling it and the whole sweater unraveled; and here I am a decade later, and it’s kind of still the same.”
    [...]Twitter’s image-cropping algorithm, it turned out, focused more on the faces of white women than the faces of people of color. Then Chowdhury and her team ran a massive-scale, randomized experiment from April 1 to Aug. 15, 2020, looking at a group of nearly 2 million active accounts — and found that the political right was more often amplified in Twitter’s algorithm. The effect was strongest in Canada (Liberals 43 percent versus Conservatives 167 percent amplified) and the United Kingdom (Labour 112 percent versus Conservatives 176 percent).

    “Who gets to be the arbiter of truth? Who gets to decide what can and cannot be seen?” Chowdhury asks about that experiment. “So at the end of the day, the power of owning and running a social media platform is exactly that. You decide what’s important, and that is so dangerous in the wrong hands.”

    Perhaps not surprisingly, when Elon Musk took over Twitter in 2022, Chowdhury’s team was eliminated.
    Gangadharan co-founded Our Data Bodies, a nonprofit that examines the impact of data collection on vulnerable populations. In 2018, a member of her team interviewed an older Black woman with the pseudonym Mellow who struggled to find housing through the Coordinated Entry System, which Gangadharan explains functions like a Match.com for the unhoused population of Los Angeles. Caseworkers would add her information to the system and tell her that she was ineligible because of a “vulnerability index” score. After appealing several times to no avail, Mellow cornered a city official at a public event; the official greenlighted a review to get her placed.

    “I’ve been really concerned about the inability of humans generally, but members of marginalized communities specifically, to lose the capacity to refuse or resist or decline the technologies that are handed to them,” Gangadharan says.
    There are a few things they all want us to know: AI is not magic. LLMs are not sentient beings, and they won’t become sentient. And the problems with these technologies aren’t abstractions — they’re here now and we need to take them seriously today.

    “People’s lives are at stake, but not because of some super intelligent system,” Buolamwini says, “but because of an overreliance on technical systems. I want people to understand that the harms are real, and that they’re present.”

    Honestly, reading the article makes me think about climate change and the destruction of privacy rights. People have been sounding the warning bells for years about these issue while those profiting continually deny there are any issues, until such a point where they seamlessly pivot and say it's too late to address the issues raised, it's happening whether you like it or not, you should have said something earlier, and anyway we're the only ones who can solve it so do what we tell you.

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    The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Its part of why I've gotten so mad about this shit before. Because the stuff these women have been raising is the dark side, the end state of all of this generative crap.

    Its not human. It's not intelligent. Its a machine vomiting out pureed shit.

    Humans are already amazing at shutting down their empathy and turning a blind eye, we don't need to make it easier

    Ideas hate it when you anthropomorphize them
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    GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Some people just like having nice photos or artwork of their family and think they're neat, I think universally assuming that any sort of nice professional family photo/painting is meant primarily as a display of wealth is probably too harsh an assumption to bring to any home you're willing to visit socially.

    We get a family phot session done once a year by a professional. Usually around the holidays to try and get some extended family in as well. It's just nice to have a classy record of time passing and this system gives decent odds that we'll have a photo of at least every grandparent and most aunts, uncles and cousins that are reasonably up to date. We also hang plenty of amateur photos taken by whoever throughout the year as well, mostly of the kids being cute or silly.

    Before now I'd never heard of anyone saying having pictures of your family hung was some kind of wealth display.

    It’s not “having family photos” that is the weird thing, it’s only having photos where everything is 100% staged and airbrushed and “perfect”. It’s also probably more suspicious to those of us who group in toxic families that were obsessed with presenting the perfect image to everyone around them while being utterly broken and sad.

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    One of my friends confided within our group that she felt like a bad mother every time she saw Facebook updates of somebody we all went to university with, because their kids seemed much better behaved

    Another friend pointed out that the last time she saw them, Kid 1 was bleeding from being bitten by Kid 2, but for some reason that moment wasn't chosen for the highlight reel

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    One of my friends confided within our group that she felt like a bad mother every time she saw Facebook updates of somebody we all went to university with, because their kids seemed much better behaved

    Another friend pointed out that the last time she saw them, Kid 1 was bleeding from being bitten by Kid 2, but for some reason that moment wasn't chosen for the highlight reel

    Some people forget just how manufactured an instagram or facebook feed is with families.

    I post stuff of taking the baby places and when she's mostly smiling. I don't post anything about where she spit up on me and then I change her and poop is coming out of the front and back of the diaper.

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Hm. Looks like Getty dipped its wick into Generative AI as well. Pretty calculated move to give its v. Stability lawsuit some stakes. We'll see if there's any backlash.

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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    One of my friends confided within our group that she felt like a bad mother every time she saw Facebook updates of somebody we all went to university with, because their kids seemed much better behaved

    Another friend pointed out that the last time she saw them, Kid 1 was bleeding from being bitten by Kid 2, but for some reason that moment wasn't chosen for the highlight reel

    Some people forget just how manufactured an instagram or facebook feed is with families.

    I post stuff of taking the baby places and when she's mostly smiling. I don't post anything about where she spit up on me and then I change her and poop is coming out of the front and back of the diaper.

    For one thing most of the time you're busy dealing with the crisis instead of taking pictures of it. For another, most kids probably aren't adorable when they decide the proper place to store their burrito in between bites is on top of their head.
    Mine is though imo

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    GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    edited September 2023
    Getty can’t get enough of that AI-ussy

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Oh, speaking of algorithms and the death of privacy, 404 Media has a chilling report on a TikTok account using "off the shelf" facial recognition technology to dox people for the sake of amusing their followers.
    404 Media is not naming the account because TikTok has decided to not remove it from the platform. TikTok told me the account does not violate its policies; one expert I spoke to said TikTok should reevaluate that position.

    The TikTok account, conversations with victims, and TikTok’s own lack of action on the account show that access to facial recognition technology, combined with a cultural belief that anything public is fair game to exploit for clout, now means that all it takes is one random person on the internet to target you and lead a crowd in your direction.
    Shortly after, the facial recognition TikTok account responded to the original video with their own. The video shows the user taking several screenshots of Matthew. Then they opened a website called Pimeyes that lets anyone run facial recognition searches. They uploaded the screenshots, selected Matthew’s face from the photos, and hit search.
    [...]Judging by the content of the videos, there is no public interest in uncovering and blasting Matthew or the others’ identities. There aren’t any examples of wrongdoing by the targets being unmasked. Rather, the TikTok account did so in part because they were asked to by people in its comments[...]
    Ben Rathe, a spokesperson from TikTok, told me TikTok has reviewed the account and concluded it does not violate the social network's terms of use. This is because in TikTok's eyes the account is only using publicly available information, rather than information which may be considered private such as a phone number.

    One expert I spoke to pushed back against TikTok's assessment of the account. Danielle Citron, a Jefferson Scholars Foundation Schenck Distinguished Professor in Law at the University of Virginia School of Law, said “TikTok’s TOS [terms of service] bans doxing and this strikes me as precisely the kind of disclosure of public information that breaks context and raises risk of harm—economic and physical as well as mental.” Citron said that although the law may not cover this combination of facial recognition outing and personal information that is available online, “it is an error of the highest order given the way information travels and work and given expectations of obscurity.”

    The idea that someone's likeness is "public information" and therefore there are no restrictions on running it through facial recognition algorithms is a terrifying argument to make.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Shutterstock is breaking new ground in what technically counts as being paid

    https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/30/how-much-can-artists-make-from-generative-ai-vendors-wont-say/
    “Contributors will receive a share of the entire contract value paid by customers licensing data sets,” Shutterstock writes on its website. “Contributors whose content was used to train [models] will be compensated for the role their IP played in the development of the original models, as well as through royalty payments tied to future generative licensing activity.”

    What’s the exact proportion, though? And what might that “additional compensation” look like? It’s anyone’s guess.

    The best estimate we have is from stock photographer Robert Kneschke, who took it upon himself to survey 58 other photographers how much they were paid from Shutterstock’s Contributors Fund and factor in the size of their portfolio to calculate averages.

    Kneschke’s survey found that the average revenue from the Contributors Fund was $0.0078 per image while the median was $0.0069 per image. Assuming those numbers are accurate, a photographer with around 2,000 images would make roughly $15 — not exactly an earth-shatting amount.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular

    i'm sorry, it's just funny how well this image captures the rush into generative AI tools with so little thought about consequences

    https://www.404media.co/bing-is-generating-images-of-spongebob-doing-9-11/

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Lanz wrote: »

    i'm sorry, it's just funny how well this image captures the rush into generative AI tools with so little thought about consequences

    https://www.404media.co/bing-is-generating-images-of-spongebob-doing-9-11/

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