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A [debate] thread for symmetry’s sake

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Final Fantasy Legends II.

    I think it was 2.

    Whichever one the only way to increase your HP was to get hit and stuff. Keep those mechanics in place and drive modern players mad.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I think 8 would benefit the most from a FF7R style glow up.

    FF6 is a close one but between the two I feel there is more meat on the bones of FF8 to be expanded upon. I feel that FF6 is just more complete as is.

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Zavian wrote: »
    DEBATE: If there were to be another Final Fantasy game remake (like FF7R), which entry would you like to see get remade? And would you like it to be in the form of one single game or split like FF7R?

    Maybe I'm a basic bitch, but 6

    I know the temptation would be to split off World of Ruin, but I think part of its efficacy is that the world ends and the story IMMEDIATELY continues, so I'd kind of prefer to keep it one contiguous experience

    I’d agree 100% for a bunch of reasons, but a modernized take on the opera scene with the kind of energy that VII:R has would be enough to lock in my choice.

    Also, it’s got my favorite soundtrack of any FF game, and I’d love to see that get a glow up.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    remake final fantasy 8 and get real teens to voice the characters

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    remake final fantasy 8 and get real teens to voice the characters

    I’m imagining them all sounding like the Mutant Mayhem turtles now and yeah, you might be winning me over.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    remake final fantasy 8 and get real teens to voice the characters

    I’m imagining them all sounding like the Mutant Mayhem turtles now and yeah, you might be winning me over.

    this is exactly what i was picturing

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    webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    I wouldn’t mind a ff6/chronotrigger update in the vein of octopath traveler. I love that 16bit+ style.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I dream of a FFVI remake that makes it look kind of like FFIX

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Final Fantasy Legends II.

    I think it was 2.

    Whichever one the only way to increase your HP was to get hit and stuff. Keep those mechanics in place and drive modern players mad.

    They remade that particular one already as a DS or 3DS game and it completely eliminated that aspect IIRC

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    miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    let's get some more final fantasy demakes going, actually

    https://youtu.be/Bfjsr7dAKoU?si=e_w2tGIVKH7tZuIv

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    remake final fantasy 8 and get real teens to voice the characters

    Remake Final Fantasy 8 and have the whole thing just be a whole Riverdale's worth of sexy teens

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    anyone who doesn't rank 8 at least third place is an absolute lunatic with a madman's dream

    edit: the soundtrack alone

    Maybe I'm a Lion

    Don't be Afraid

    Balamb Garden Theme

    The Man with the Machine Gun

    The Landing is also an all-timer.

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    KupiKupi Registered User regular
    Final Fantasy has a reputation for incomprehensible plots that I don't think it entirely deserves.

    But I have never seen someone stream a first play-through of Final Fantasy 8 that didn't wind up with a reaction something like...
    ???????

    ????

    ??? ??? ???

    What?

    ??

    What?!

    Around the third disk. It is genuinely badly written, and only saved in my estimation by the usual Final Fantasy production values and scenes like "Motorcycle cavalry charge from one airborne child soldier academy to another".

    My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Honestly I feel like people that didn't have that same reaction of utter confusion at the plot of FF7 are lying to either me, themselves, or the both of us. FF8's plot isn't incomprehensible, it's just very stupid in the final 15% or so.

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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    edited October 2023
    the main villain of 8's evil plot is my favorite of all the FFs

    edit: also the Junction system was rad

    Depressperado on
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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited October 2023
    I loved the design of sorceress Adel, like a giant badass kind of slanesh style sorceress
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    A lot of the summon designs in FF8 are my favourite in the series, they were ornately florid but not as overdesigned as they tended to get with later FF games.

    The only thing that really confused me in 7 was the whole cloud/Zack thing. That was so bizarre I just blocked it from my brain

    Also in an ideal world I’d love 8 to get remade since that’s my jam, and I love it so much, but I’d also be happy if they took a sledgehammer to its story and really made some changes. Like I love the world and characters and music and such, but man, do whatever you need to with the plot and pacing and maybe jettison the secret aliens controlling the school or whatever they were and focus more on the politics and plots of rival mercenary schools

    9 remake with a fantastic art style that evokes the kind of hewn and painterly water colour vibe of the PlayStation one would be fantastic

    Prohass on
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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I dream of a FFVI remake that makes it look kind of like FFIX

    Just makes me think of that polygonal tech demo from way back

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Are we still talking about Light and Tangy chips?
    Any flavour that doesn't mention an actual ingredient has got to be good

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    GrudgeGrudge blessed is the mind too small for doubtRegistered User regular
    Barbecue flavour then because it references an activity.

    Also Ranch I guess, because that is a building?

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I'll usually go for a salt and vinegar, given the option

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    My favorite chip flavor is

    Salt

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    DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Ketchup

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    remake final fantasy 8 and get real teens to voice the characters

    Remake Final Fantasy 8 and have the whole thing just be a whole Riverdale's worth of sexy teens

    literally named squall jughead when remastered came out

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    ChallChall Registered User regular
    Kupi wrote: »
    Final Fantasy has a reputation for incomprehensible plots that I don't think it entirely deserves.

    But I have never seen someone stream a first play-through of Final Fantasy 8 that didn't wind up with a reaction something like...
    ???????

    ????

    ??? ??? ???

    What?

    ??

    What?!

    Around the third disk. It is genuinely badly written, and only saved in my estimation by the usual Final Fantasy production values and scenes like "Motorcycle cavalry charge from one airborne child soldier academy to another".

    It's one GF Michael. What could it cost,
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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    remake final fantasy 8 and get real teens to voice the characters

    Remake Final Fantasy 8 and have the whole thing just be a whole Riverdale's worth of sexy teens

    literally named squall jughead when remastered came out

    7656367.jpg
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    ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular
    HOT TAKE: I don't like plain potato chips, they're too basic

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I don't like flavored chips

    They are too intense

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Now you both need to fight to the death

    Or kiss

    One of the two

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Not if they've had any flavor blasted chips I won't

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Lays are too greasy, but the wavy version is ok. Ruffles are better.

    Utz beat them both.

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    remake final fantasy 8 and get real teens to voice the characters

    Remake Final Fantasy 8 and have the whole thing just be a whole Riverdale's worth of sexy teens

    literally named squall jughead when remastered came out


    Both properties involve magic and time travel!!

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    ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Now you both need to fight to the death

    Or kiss

    One of the two

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Kupi wrote: »
    Final Fantasy has a reputation for incomprehensible plots that I don't think it entirely deserves.

    But I have never seen someone stream a first play-through of Final Fantasy 8 that didn't wind up with a reaction something like...
    ???????

    ????

    ??? ??? ???

    What?

    ??

    What?!

    Around the third disk. It is genuinely badly written, and only saved in my estimation by the usual Final Fantasy production values and scenes like "Motorcycle cavalry charge from one airborne child soldier academy to another".

    Having watched various clips of CDawgVA playing through it recently, yeah checks out.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Zavian wrote: »
    HOT TAKE: I don't like plain potato chips, they're too basic

    Put em on a sandwich

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    I don't like flavored potato chips cause they make my hands dirty

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    ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular
    Zavian wrote: »
    HOT TAKE: I don't like plain potato chips, they're too basic

    Put em on a sandwich

    i keep hearing theyre great on gyros; there's some greek places near me that serve them that way so I'll need to try it

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I like a small quantity of most flavored potato chips. But if I'm getting a full bag, I just want plain (or salt and pepper, when available).

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    ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular
    im kind of inclined in my head canon to just consider sea salt potato chips to be my default 'plain'

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    I prefer my plain chips wavy, but I was at a sports bar saturday that made their own chips and then covered them with bacon, blue cheese, balsamic vinegar, and scallions and they were amazing.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    I can fuck with a salt and vinegar chip, but that's the only flavor I go for. I find a lot of chip flavors too sweet.

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