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Behold! An Inglorious Un-exalted Return of [chat] Polls!

A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/HimMississippiRegistered User regular
edited November 2023 in Debate and/or Discourse
Exalted is a TTRPG series, originally developed by White Wolf but now being developed by Onyx Path Publishing (the same guys who did nWoD, for those of you who remember that) and published by White Wolf. It's a fantasy game inspired by classic myths and anime, among others, but it very pointedly avoids most standard western fantasy tropes.

In it, you play as demigods known as the Exalted (natch) who have tremendous supernatural power thanks to being given it by one of the deities of the setting, which is called Creation. Which one you are chosen by determines what sort of Exalted you'll be, see below.

Mechanically, it's a Storyteller system game, with point buy. What Exalted is most well-known for is stunting, e.g. describe your character doing something cool, then you get a bonus to do said thing. This is also the game where you throw buckets of d10s.

There's a few limitations to what you can do, mind. You can't resurrect the dead and you can't time-travel, because this game, for all its bullshit, is supposed to be about, in part, choices and consequences. Just because you can do a thing, doesn't mean you should do a thing.

This is a series that is not without controversy, as befitting a White Wolf gameline. The most prominent is probably the series inevitable fixation with orientalism, which is something I don't have the energy to go into right now other than to say that, yeah orientalism is a recurring problem.

The current edition is 3rd, though there exists Exalted Essence, which is a spinoff with all the different splats and a bunch of edges rounded off. Third is… not well liked. Its Kickstarter was huge, but then it took forever to come out. And when it came out, it was clunky and messy, as exemplified by the arcane rules surrounding crafting, and it completely lacked a guide for running the damn game, among other things. And then the developers behind the game were revealed to be abusive assholes. So all the books after the core book have been done by different people, and the big-name splatbooks* at least have been generally well-received. The Lunars book, Lunars: Fangs at the Gate, has been the most notable in this regard for actually bringing a coherent vision to a splat that was added at the last minute in 1e and had been since metaphorically wandering in the wilderness, directionless. The next splatbook to be published is Sidereals: Charting Fate's Course, which is slated to come out this December but already out to backers of its Kickstarter. The one after that is, I think, the Abyssals book.

Have I played it? No. Just like most people interested in this game! :tongue:

Here's a brief overview of the Exalted you can play, theoretically:

SOLARS

Once upon a time, the world was ruled by great and terrible titans known as the Primordials, and the gods were their servants. The primordials were cruel and fickle, and the gods decided they needed to overthrow their masters. But they were unable to fight the titans themselves. So they hatched a plan: they would put some of their divine essence into mortals, and they would fight their revolution for the gods. Leading the charge were the Solars, chosen of the Unconquered Sun, and their ability to reach greatness and then go further beyond. They were the ones who were the god-kings of the world after the defeat of the Primordials, and they lead Creation into a so-called golden age. While it was glorious, it was also terrible, and a cabal of Sidereals and Dragonblooded ended the age of Solars, and most of their exaltations were stored in the Jade Prison. However, the Jade Prison has been destroyed, and Solars are returning to a world that is hostile to them. Solars are exemplars, paragons of humanity and its potential, for good and for ill. They can be just as destructive as they can be benevolent, for the power they wield is great. Will they lead Creation to glory or destruction? Only time will tell.

Play a solar if…

- You're basic
- You're a noob
- You're one of those weirdos who wants to play the STRONGEST option no matter what
- You really want to do a bunch of gonzo shit because you're perpetually stuck in the WAHRBLGARBL SO AWESOME!!! era of the internet.
- You want to meditate on the meaning of great power vs great responsibility as you gaze out on the results of your antecedents hubris and folly and commit yourself to try (perhaps in vain) to be better than them

DRAGONBLOODED

During the Divine Revolution, as it is sometimes called, the five elemental dragons took it upon themselves to forge the armies that would overthrow their masters.

Despite being on paper the weakest Exalt, they are also by far the most numerous, eclipsing anyone else by at least several orders of magnitude. They wield the power of the elements: fire, water, earth, air, and wood.

The Dragonblooded have ruled Creation since the Solars were cast down, and they do so currently through a great empire known as the Realm. It was once ruled by the Scarlet Empress, whose name has been lost to the sands of history. She was the one who used a great manse (basically an artifact-building) in order to save Creation during a time of crisis. However, in the lore of the game, she has been mysteriously gone for five years, leaving a power vacuum in her wake.

Play a dragonblooded if…
- You always wanted your super sentai series to have a little bit of Game of Thrones in it
- You believe in the power of fambly
- You really, really love Avatar: the Last Airbender
- You kinda want to play the villain, but aren't really an edgelord
- You want to look back at the life that you knew and the promises made by your friends and family and superiors and the comfortable future you'd have, and decide that leaving it all behind will be worth it, in the end

LUNARS

Play a lunar if
- You're a furry

SIDEREALS
Play a Sidereal if
- Your favorite TV show is The Office (UK)
- You want to have a mechanic for putting on your Customer Service Face
- You're really into Confucianism

ABYSSALS

Play an Abyssal if
- You really would rather be playing Vampire: the Masquerade

INFERNALS

Play an Infernal if
- You want to be an edgelord, but a different sort of edgelord than an Abyssal
- You want to summon your personal demons from your increasingly complicated soul structure and then have them do stuff in the real world

ALCHEMICALS

Play an Alchemical if
- You relate to Data from TNG a little too much

GETIMIANS
Play a Getimian if
- You really like isekai

LIMINALS
Play a Liminal if
- You really like body horror

EXIGENTS
There's a bunch of small gods in Creation, and sometimes they ask the Unconquered Sun if they could pretty please exalt somebody. Thus comes the Exigents.
Play an Exigent if
- You have a random idea that doesn't really fit into any of the above categories

MORTALS
I guess you can play them too

OTHERS
Basically exist in developer interviews at this point

So, who's your favorite? And why is it chanus?

*: Er, faction or exalted-type books? Each one needs a complete book because of the setting details associated with them and also each has a shitton of discrete charms you can buy as you gain XP.

edit: fuck, I pressed enter instead of tab maybe I shouldn't do this at twelve in the morning, jfc

double edit: maybe I'll finish this post in the morning, this was a lot of work

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Solars
    Solars sounds like it might involve space

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    A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/Him MississippiRegistered User regular
    i literally yelled at my screen when i fucked up and posted without meaning to

    why do things have to be hard

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2023
    Solars
    I think this is very funny

    Edit: Ok I went back to read you had something thought out and you put effort in it so it’s less funny in that context. Sorry!

    Honk on
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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    were there supposed to be more poll options? because if so don't worry about it you've got the dragonblooded in there thats all you need

    i assume

    they have a good name at any rate

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Dragonblooded
    You got to "Dragonblooded" and, as a kobold, you clearly knew it was the best and only option so your subconscious said ship it

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    whenever I google a kobold post i don't understand and end up at the white wolf wiki, i know its gonna be extra crunchy

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited November 2023
    Im skimming through this Boogie2688 documentary, jesus this is something else.

    Ive never seen someone manage money so badly

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    DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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    LucedesLucedes might be real Registered User regular
    Dragonblooded
    Sidereals, but of the two options actually in the poll...

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    i've never been a consistent viewer of boogie's videos, but maybe once or twice a year i'd check in on his channel to see what new phase was happening. highlights i remember:

    -francis, the dew
    -talk about abusive childhood
    -talk about daily pain from health issues and morbid obesity
    -marrying someone
    -getting bariatric surgery
    -his wife eventually leaving him
    -him getting all his teeth replaced with implants
    -him leaning hard into centrism
    -him regularly lamenting his loss in popularity, blaming sharing his opinions, 'i know i'll probably lose fans for this, but'
    -internet celebrity boxing match
    -some other youtube personality showed up on his doorstep in a way that made boogie feel unsafe so he pulled his gun and fired a warning shot? which led to legal charges

    i think those are all the boogie things i remember

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Exalted is the crunchiest TTRPG I've been involved in playing and I think I might have liked it more if I hadn't joined like four sessions in with my friends and had spent some time reading the rules before hand and not trying to pick them up as we played, especially since a bunch of the other players never picked up on the rules.

    I did love that the GM put a big focus on describing what you were doing to get the bonus and make the action seem more exciting.

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited November 2023
    The main part is he has a compulsion to spend. Before he (49) met his 20 year old girlfriend he spent 200k on escorts in 3 years, lost 600k in crypto and about to lose his house cause he never paid it off when he had all that cash.

    One of the main parts of the doc is showing his expenditures and its out of control.

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    So following the Nano talk of last chat I'm struggling, as I kind of expected with having a four month old to take care of, but I did toss what I wrote the first two days in the trash and start fresh Saturday and I'm up to 2k now I like what I'm working with so I don't expect to finish anything by the end of the month, but I think I'll have a good base to work with.

    Going for a Supernatural Investigator story in a fictional version of Europe that is heavily influenced by the last two movies I watched: Haunting in Venice and The Nun

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    PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    So following the Nano talk of last chat I'm struggling, as I kind of expected with having a four month old to take care of, but I did toss what I wrote the first two days in the trash and start fresh Saturday and I'm up to 2k now I like what I'm working with so I don't expect to finish anything by the end of the month, but I think I'll have a good base to work with.

    Going for a Supernatural Investigator story in a fictional version of Europe that is heavily influenced by the last two movies I watched: Haunting in Venice and The Nun

    Good luck i hope it is fun!

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    PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    edited November 2023
    I and an architect friend of mine are both kamiroing right now as well. If you don't spend any money while being highly overpaid it accumulates quite a lot. I think he did a little work when his favorite coffee shop needed to expand their building but otherwise he's pulling down one shift at a bar and that's it.

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Solars
    Very sorry Athenor, sounds like you have really been there for your dad for a long time.

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    A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/Him MississippiRegistered User regular
    The options were supposed to be:

    - Solars
    - Dragonblooded
    - Lunars
    - Sidereals
    - Abyssals
    - Infernals
    - Alchemicals
    - Getimians/Liminals/Exigents/Etc.
    - mortals ftw no gods no kings
    - Chanus

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    A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/Him MississippiRegistered User regular
    I have to call it a night, sorry y'all

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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    Dragonblooded
    Inside you there are two chats

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Im skimming through this Boogie2688 documentary, jesus this is something else.

    Ive never seen someone manage money so badly

    two minutes in and he lost $600,000, nearly his entire life savings, to crypto

    dear god

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2023
    i'm watching some of this documentary and it's so gratuitous. of course the director has editorial power so the fact that he had interview footage with one of these escorts and chose to include the bits about boogie's enormous body and all his rolls and how it took her a while to find his dick and she regrets sleeping with him, etc

    given the access boogie gave to the director- i assume he's hoping this will somehow revitalize his career? what a bizarre tone this movie has so far

    'sleeping with boogie is one of the reasons i quit sex work'

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Solars
    I'm trying to recall what my Exalted character was from over a decade ago.....

    I think, maybe, Lunar?

    I was primarily a Werewolf player after all.


    But I vaguely, vaguely recall a Child of Apollo character?

    So maybe Solar? In a totally opposite my usual "I would prefer to be an NPC" character....

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    I’m in Belgium

    planning on being more waffle than man by the end of the week

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Solars
    I don’t think I have any sympathy in store for a john losing his life savings.

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    joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    his name is francis

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Me, one hour after waking up, pretty much every single day: "I want to go back to bed."

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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    I'm back from Nepal/Japan, and last night I managed to wake up at 3pm.

    I've set an alarm, hopefully I don't turn around and wake up at 4pm today.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Tav wrote: »
    I’m in Belgium

    planning on being more waffle than man by the end of the week

    The chips at the chip museum In Brugges are to die for

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    GrudgeGrudge blessed is the mind too small for doubtRegistered User regular
    I'm more of a classic sword & sorcery kinda guy, not really into this modern superhero fantasy stuff

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Oh man this Bus Strike hah I just realized the Grey Cup (CFL championship) is in two weeks and we're hosting, lets see if the City is stupid enough to let that week go by without transit.

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    LucedesLucedes might be real Registered User regular
    Dragonblooded
    Grudge wrote: »
    I'm more of a classic sword & sorcery kinda guy, not really into this modern superhero fantasy stuff

    good news, it's basically xianxia with other influences

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    marajimaraji Registered User regular
    Dragonblooded
    I’m dragonboooded, check it and see
    I bet this chat thread hits 103!
    C’mon baby we could post more than that,
    Dragonblooded, dragonblooded!

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
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    good lord

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited November 2023
    Tav wrote: »
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    good lord

    Bruv, you may need new pants or at least a new belt.

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    marajimaraji Registered User regular
    Dragonblooded
    The options were supposed to be:

    - Solars
    - Dragonblooded
    - Lunars
    - Sidereals
    - Abyssals
    - Infernals
    - Alchemicals
    - Getimians/Liminals/Exigents/Etc.
    - mortals ftw no gods no kings
    - Chanus

    The moral of the story is to always put Chanus first, in defiance of tradition.

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    MimMim I prefer my lovers… dead.Registered User regular
    I am sleepy.

    I am at work.

    I am god.

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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    I am sleepy.

    I am at work.

    I am god.

    Hey God, it’s me, Margaret

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    @Tav if you're in Ghent: https://visit.gent.be/nl/cuberdons are delicious and can't really find them anywhere else.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    The body does not want to do the anything today.

    I mean I'm still going to work, but under extreme protest!

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    marajimaraji Registered User regular
    edited November 2023
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    A couple of folks in my old wow guild were friends with Boogie irl. I lost touch with them around 2012, which looks like it was before he went off the deep end. What I remember them saying is that Francis was a struggle for him, and that he had a hard time reconciling that character being the thing driving his success and wanting to get himself healthier and more than just a spectacle.

    Sounds like he pushed people away and became unmoored to reality.

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