Final Fantasy 14 thread: Dawntrail

admanb · October 23

USBPoet wrote: »

I'm currently the lowest level player in my guild at level 50 and every time I hear them talk about a raid fight or duties they're signing up for i feel like im never gonna catch up... such is the plight of the late-to-the-party MMO player...

The difference is that FFXIV content is designed to be far more "eternal" than any other MMO.

BahamutZERO · October 23

also that the progression through the lower level content is still emphasized as important and worth doing and not like, halfway deleted the moment the next expansion or patch comes out like in WoW

Skeith · October 23

Or like Destiny, where it's actually lost to the void for all time.

Jars · October 23

well I can spend my 2 m4 books on twine, get the caster gloves, and be done with caster gear and savage, or I can do potentially 6 more weeks of m4s and get 5 more ilevels on my tank weapon

it feels wrong to trade in books but option 1 looks better

Skeith · October 23

Could sit on the books until the alliance raid drops in a month or so.

Jars · October 24

even just choosing a tank is tough. war is out cause it's boring. pld is extremely comfy but also kind of boring. gnb is the best and I already have a 730 weapon for it but it's so rigid, and drk is kind of in the middle but with some annoying animation cancelling.

Jars · October 26

man parsing can be weird. I ran ex1 a bit on all 3 tanks and got these results:

68% on gnb, 730 weapon. 98.3% gcd uptime, some dot ticks losses on sonic break that are impossible to avoid, 0 other mistakes
61% on drk, 710 weapon. 97.7% gcd uptime, 1 tbn that didn't break and 0 other mistakes
67% on pld, 710 weapon, 96.7% gcd uptime, 3 lost intervenes, 1 triple weave, 2 gcds missed during fight or flight, 10 suboptimal skills during fight or flight

I guess competition is stiffer on gnb and drk than it is pld

Badablack · October 26

Paladin will always be my favorite tank, because it's just a big beefy black mage doing its caster rotation directly into the face of monsters from 5 inches away.

Javen · October 26

kill time and patch is SUCH a huge contributor to parse%

Jars · October 27

bard seems pretty good this expansion, but I always get distracted by song timers and forget about dot timers

also I'm looking at xiv analysis and while I did pretty well for my garbage gear(ilevel 707) and garbage party member dps/kill times it was dinging me for ridiculous stuff, like overwriting a proc when renewing dots. and I hit a training dummy for a bit and I was losing like 40 soul guage trying to get apex arrow to align with 2 minutes. that's a very minimal benefit.

Badablack · October 28

You should tell analysis it doesn't pay your sub

Zython · October 28

Jars wrote: »

bard seems pretty good this expansion, but I always get distracted by song timers and forget about dot timers

also I'm looking at xiv analysis and while I did pretty well for my garbage gear(ilevel 707) and garbage party member dps/kill times it was dinging me for ridiculous stuff, like overwriting a proc when renewing dots. and I hit a training dummy for a bit and I was losing like 40 soul guage trying to get apex arrow to align with 2 minutes. that's a very minimal benefit.

Yeah, the generally agreed upon theorycrafting is that it's better to cap on Soul Voice to use Apex Arrow during the burst window than it is to prevent form overcapping. I think it's also a little better to hold onto Apex to line up with the 1-minute window (i.e. mid-rotation Sidewinder), rather than shooting it at 80. But holding it at cap isn't worth it then.

reVerse · October 28

No cap.

It's giving unoptimize.

Deadass. Facts.

Jars · October 30

damn m3, I must be healing too much or something

I don't think I'm going back into savage until lockouts are lifted though. I realized I'd rather just do m4 and turn the books into m3 books

admanb · October 30

58 was from my third kill and first kill with my static. I'm not sure how much harder I'll be able to push it over our ~6 reclears.

Delzhand · October 31

Don't forget to do the All Saints event and get your Fallout Boy outfit

admanb · October 31

Delzhand wrote: »

Don't forget to do the All Saints event and get your Fallout Boy outfit

*whispers* it's My Chemical Romance

Jars · October 31

I still haven't done it. I have been dicking around with ex2 on bard and I really should stop because it doesn't matter how well you play when you get anywhere from 2.5-5k dps from your party and lately everyone has been a bunch of bufoons

Delzhand · October 31

Gimme a break, it was after my time, emo nerds!

Also the event is super short this year. Takes about 5m.

Edit: there are a few google image search results that corroborate my claim! (even if the entire first row was the Fallout mascot because apparently it's Fall Out Boy anyway)

Javen · October 31

Jars wrote: »

damn m3, I must be healing too much or something

I don't think I'm going back into savage until lockouts are lifted though. I realized I'd rather just do m4 and turn the books into m3 books

Yeah 3 was the drag for me too; and that top parse was actually very early in the tier; before I was even close to getting best in slot. Most of my parses at current max item level are actually much lower

Jars · October 31

I hate pfing 3 too. I follow the positioning for the video strat and it doesn't seem to matter, I'm always out of position or popping my fuse at the wrong time or some bullshit. it's stupid. at least in m2 I can just join a clock group.

Javen · October 31

3 is definitely the most annoying fight of the tier imo because almost every mechanic lets you kill other players

Jars · November 3

good time to sell your faux leaves, my incitatus whistle sold for 18m almost immediately

Lucid_Seraph · November 3

so this was only my second time doing this raid, and my first time on healer; please watch me and my co-healer have a serious Pacific Rim style Jaeger drift moment during that final heal check. You can see us dropping Exocog & Bene on two different people at exactly the right moment, it's pretty great.

https://www.twitch.tv/lucid_seraph/clip/StylishGloriousGorillaTBTacoLeft-E34NEHrqbsCaKRDM

SabreMau · November 7

Raid mount done being collected:

Now all that's left are three Twines and five swords and then I can be done with PLD BiS and start thinking about casually gearing other jobs

SCREECH OF THE FARG · November 7

you frighten me

AngelHedgie · November 8

SabreMau wrote: »

Raid mount done being collected:

Now all that's left are three Twines and five swords and then I can be done with PLD BiS and start thinking about casually gearing other jobs

You know, the first step is admitting you have a problem.

And speaking of touching grass, Yoshida has come up with a novel way of telling the player base with their new camping gear collab.

Yes, camping gear. In real life.

Sir Fabulous · November 11

Min ilvl static started on our first Ultimate last weekend.

71 pulls so far, broken down by phase reached:

Garuda: 35
Ifrit: 18
Titan: 17
Lahabrea: 1

And so far I'm topping the charts!
Of who has died earliest and most often.

AngelHedgie · November 11

Sir Fabulous wrote: »

Min ilvl static started on our first Ultimate last weekend.

71 pulls so far, broken down by phase reached:

Garuda: 35
Ifrit: 18
Titan: 17
Lahabrea: 1

And so far I'm topping the charts!
Of who has died earliest and most often.

The floor must be tanked.

Sir Fabulous · November 11

I also constructed this graph of our progress.

I hope it is intuitive.

DarkPrimus · November 11

AngelHedgie wrote: »

SabreMau wrote: »

Raid mount done being collected:

Now all that's left are three Twines and five swords and then I can be done with PLD BiS and start thinking about casually gearing other jobs

You know, the first step is admitting you have a problem.

And speaking of touching grass, Yoshida has come up with a novel way of telling the player base with their new camping gear collab.

Yes, camping gear. In real life.

They used official Coleman camping supplies in FFXV.

gavindel · November 12

Judging by the square enix earnings report, i think its safe to say that (1) FFXIV is the tentpole holding the company up, and (2) that tentpole is sagging. With 7.1 tomorrow I wonder if we will see a course correction or doubling down on Dawntrail's issues.

Talk to Wuk Lamat to find out

Jars · November 12

geez I didn't even know 7.1 was tomorrow. definitely going to do the new alliance raid on tank first and eat up those vuln stacks

Grey Ghost · November 12

What would a course correction look like in this scenario

Grey Ghost · November 12

Actually I guess I would ask what are generally seen as the problems with this expansion and what they can reasonably change

People might complain about the story but that is going to be a small portion of the total time they will spend playing all the content of any given expansion

Jars · November 12

probably memory hole wuk lamat. though I agree with you that the story is a week or two worth of content and raids and various other content that you spend much more time on is very good

admanb · November 12

Grey Ghost wrote: »

What would a course correction look like in this scenario

Travel back in time and release another expansion during the pandemic and then follow it up with your epic-arc-ending expansion.

There’s no “course correcting.” The lightning of ShB/EW can’t be re-bottled.

Polaritie · November 12

Yeah, they wrapped up the entire arc since ARR basically... just no way to match that with Dawntrail.

Kevin Crist · November 12

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9b42b2425f3a680caea3281ccd65c99677cb00e2

DRK buffs, BLM nerfs.

I might just level and gear WHM this patch.

admanb · November 12

BLM was buffed.

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