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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 8
    Brolo wrote: »
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    Anywhere north of 87 is upstste

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    the best part of visiting my family up there was the crossings between america and canada there did not give a shit

    so I'd get my cousins to be cool for once and we'd walk across a bridge and past some security guards and bam, canada, where we are all old enough to drink.

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited April 8
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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    edited April 8
    Upstate is broadly just a term that means outside of the metro area in my experience. Anyone still commuting in probably isn't properly upstate, and Long Island is of course its own thing.

    I've also never actually lived in New York, this is all Connecticut and Jersey based knowledge of geography.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    It’s funny given there’s a pretty clear zone east of Lake Ontario to Vermont and up to Canada

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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    So what I'm getting here is that nobody knows what is or is not up or down state.

  • TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    So what I'm getting here is that nobody knows what is or is not up or down state.

    It's mostly that people from NYC have a different definition for it than everyone else

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited April 8
    It’s the Adirondacks and everyone else is deliberately missusing it due to regional chauvinism

    I have no qualifications here other than looking at maps

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  • DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    That last map is absolutely wrong, the pop/soda line is absolutely between Buffalo and Rochester.

    Those filthy heathens in Buffalo say pop.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Garland got it all wrong, the actual civil war will be fought along regional differences in how people refer to soda

  • KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Garland got it all wrong, the actual civil war will be fought along regional differences in how people refer to soda

    The soda people and the pop people will eventually come together to smite the folks who call everything Coke.

  • Quantum TigerQuantum Tiger Registered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
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    I hadn't realised that New York state pinches down to capture NYC

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    being from the sticks kinda near Syracuse, I learned pretty quickly to say that I was from "upstate NY," because just saying the state name meant I was from NYC.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
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    I hadn't realised that New York state pinches down to capture NYC

    ::looks at Long Island::

    Hmmm

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
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    I hadn't realised that New York state pinches down to capture NYC

    Really trying to pinch off that Long Island log.

  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    One of those weird products of state boundaries resulting from different european colonies arguing over who was stealing what chunk of land four hundred years ago yeah

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Brolo wrote: »
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    I hadn't realised that New York state pinches down to capture NYC

    Really trying to pinch off that Long Island log.

    Wow I thought I’d be the only degenerate to even think of this joke let alone post it

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Oh no a lot of people think about Long Island as a big piece of shit, don't worry

  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    i went to college in the albany area and i remember when i would drive there, the distance to next thing signs would have all kinds of places with reasonable distances the whole way, then the last one was albany like 2 miles or whatever, and the only other thing they thought was important enough to get on the sign was buffalo at functionally infinity distance away.

    so idk i guess past albany

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Ketar wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Garland got it all wrong, the actual civil war will be fought along regional differences in how people refer to soda

    The soda people and the pop people will eventually come together to smite the folks who call everything Coke.

    As it should be

  • TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Oh no a lot of people think about Long Island as a big piece of shit, don't worry

    Just think of the devastation this would cause for the national population of tennis courts and in-ground swimming pools

  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    I’m one generation separated from New York so I still often hear tale from my mother and my cousin (who’s folks remained) about your fabled “garbage plate”

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  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    Tynnan wrote: »
    sarukun wrote: »
    So what I'm getting here is that nobody knows what is or is not up or down state.

    It's mostly that people from NYC have a different definition for it than everyone else
    I've lived in NYC since '93 (which is when I immigrated to the U.S.). I've never heard the term "Downstate", so I assume it must be something that's used by folks outside of NYC. In NYC, there are basically three categories:
    - NYC, which is the five boroughs
    - Long Island, which is suburbs
    - Upstate, which is every part of New York State that does not fall into the first two categories

  • LadaiLadai Registered User regular
    I have family in New Jersey who refer to Yonkers as upstate New York, which is always funny to me.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited April 8
    Delduwath wrote: »
    Tynnan wrote: »
    sarukun wrote: »
    So what I'm getting here is that nobody knows what is or is not up or down state.

    It's mostly that people from NYC have a different definition for it than everyone else
    I've lived in NYC since '93 (which is when I immigrated to the U.S.). I've never heard the term "Downstate", so I assume it must be something that's used by folks outside of NYC. In NYC, there are basically three categories:
    - NYC, which is the five boroughs
    - Long Island, which is suburbs
    - Upstate, which is every part of New York State that does not fall into the first two categories

    I'm no expert, but I lived in Ithaca for 5 years and this is how I heard the term used. Upstate of course has subregions (Ithaca is both upstate, and the fingerlakes), but upstate makes sense for everything outside of NYC because the state pinches down so far to get to the city. Its like an hour south of everything else in the state.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited April 8
    I used to live in NYC. Clearly the purpose of the term "upstate" is to differentiate the rest of New York from NYC, on account of most people meaning NYC when they say New York. So IMO it's everything north of the Bronx. I could be convinced that it starts a few miles further north than that.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    So what I'm getting here is that nobody knows what is or is not up or down state.

    It's a quantum state thing. You can't measure it except by observing it and your position determines what you observe.

    All of those maps are correct.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    If you mail someone a potato that's a UPStater

    This joke makes a lot of sense and was worth the walk. Unrelated, how many months of sleep deprivation do you need until it starts to make you smarter

  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    Nah, “upstate” is every part of NY that isn’t NYC. Whether that’s north or the city or not.
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    I lived in Ticonderoga for a while. It always amuses but also irks me when people call anything north of the city "upstate".

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    I think it's silly to care about upstate and downstate when everyone knows the real losers are the west coasters.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    more like, best coasters

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  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    If you mail someone a potato that's a UPStater

    This joke makes a lot of sense and was worth the walk. Unrelated, how many months of sleep deprivation do you need until it starts to make you smarter

    I dunno, but I felt pretty dumb yesterday compared to my toddler.

    See, he found one of the little gas-can rectangle jugs of bubble solution we have a while back and likes playing with it. It's sealed and with a cap on it, so like... sure, have a blast swinging it around, go nuts. Every time he was done with it and playing with something else, it would always be left on top of the little trash-can out we had out there. I figured that since he also loves playing with the trash cans and taking their lids off, it didn't mean much, I'd just make sure to check the can when tossing stuff to make sure he wasn't throwing out his "toy".

    Yesterday, though, I saw him putting the bubbles solution back up on the trash can and I realized why he was doing it: The trash can lid had a little rectangular depression in it for aesthetic purposes, and his toddler instincts were that, much like a round sippy cup goes in his round high-chair cup holder, the rectangular bubble solution container must go in the rectangle spot on the trash can. I got out-shape-recognitioned by a 15-month old.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I'm curious, what would people consider the nicest upstate town in New York?

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    I'm curious, what would people consider the nicest upstate town in New York?

    Newark

  • Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    Philadelphia

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Toronto

  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I was going to make a joke about it and get us into a Who's On First but that phrasing genuinely got me confused for a second because I'm so conditioned to think of New York as the city I had to try and hurdle over the idea of "upstate town in New York" and tripped over my own feet doing it as the two feel mutually exclusive in my head

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    If you mail someone a potato that's a UPStater

    This joke makes a lot of sense and was worth the walk. Unrelated, how many months of sleep deprivation do you need until it starts to make you smarter

    I've been wondering why you've been making so many badgood jokes lately.

    It never occurred to me that you are sleep deprived because of the baby.

    Probably because I am sleep deprived because of a baby.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    If talking what's the nicest town in New York other than NYC, I'd probably go Ithaca.

  • TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    If talking what's the nicest town in New York other than NYC, I'd probably go Ithaca.

    I heard it's gorges there

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