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[Honkai Star Rail] Acheron arrives, cuts fools.

ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
edited March 29 in Games and Technology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s40um2x_Ks

Hoyo gacha hell part... 5? 6? I dunno, this one's pretty good!


The free guy!
https://youtu.be/-UZ0n2Tqiyw

The crazy one!
https://youtu.be/RC6wQ-75uQU

The bro!
https://youtu.be/PhqU5X_sMPA

Links:
Character reviews and tier lists from Prydwen. Take these with a grain of salt, there are few characters in the game who can't be useful in some content or other.

Keqing Mains' HSR page. These folks do the math and don't review every character. No tier lists either. But if you want in depth analysis, you won't find better.



Frands!

eMoander | 600322115
Fencingsax | 600748892
Feldorn | 600597269
Reynolds | 600028763
Kyanilis | 600006983
Aegis | 601104050
initiatefailure | 600347186
Doctor Detroid | 601751578
CorriganX | 601194223
Madican | 600385760
abotkin | 600833656
Polarite | 600108588
Shadowfire | 600332676
AshtonDragon | 602140368
Raiden333 | 603657025
Tofystedeth | 602398694[/quote]

Remember all, this is a gacha. If you're prone to gambling issues or just don't like that kind of game, that's totally cool. Please be well!

SPOILER INFO
Every update brings new story content. For the first week after a content update, mark all story spoilers.

And let's not get in the habit of posting story leaks from the test servers either. Character kits are fine, but the story spoilers we really don't need here.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    You can't fix her

    But maybe you can make her worse

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    MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Does my pity carry over from the previous thread?

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    FryFry Registered User regular
    Ok, Topaz, Clara, Gepard, Ratio (all rentals) got the job done to get SS for the event. 46 stacks. I guess March just really is that bad.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Mirkel wrote: »
    Does my pity carry over from the previous thread?

    It's a gacha. All we can get is pity.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Fry wrote: »
    Ok, Topaz, Clara, Gepard, Ratio (all rentals) got the job done to get SS for the event. 46 stacks. I guess March just really is that bad.

    ...My high score is 61 using Gepard, Topaz, Ratio, March (all rentals except Gepard, not that it matters for him - I don't have the other three leveled enough).

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    Final fantasy is ruining my “play the minimum amount to keep daily/weekly jade currency” star rail life

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    MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Final fantasy is ruining my “play the minimum amount to keep daily/weekly jade currency” star rail life

    If you take a two week break, you'll trigger the return event when you come back. It's not like there's anything going on right now, some food event starts tomorrow but I doubt it'll be anything special. I certainly plan to do it again, getting a portion of the missed stamina banked is pretty great too.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    I finally found the last section I needed in the "final" zone of current Penacony.

    Damn thing was literally not on the map and is hidden between a teleport point that is also not on the map until you find it. So of course the remaining chests and birds were hidden there.

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    AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    I am bracing myself for an inevitable onslaught of March fanart on twitter tomorrow. The first March 7th since release!

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I have one more main unlock and like 3 quests (plus literally all of the path point quests) left in swarm disaster and I am working on the clear stage at disruption level 6 quest and learned the annoying way that they mean specifically the final stage. i really wish they would have clearer language on this stuff.

    also with the final boss at disruption 10 my party was getting 2 shot. like full health to ~20% attacks

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    The damage enemies do on the two bonus modes so far is pretty ridiculous if you didn't pull Fu, and also luck into all the good defensive blessings. Doing them with just Luocha was very frustrating.

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    FryFry Registered User regular
    I have picked up from Reddit that you want to have two sustains, and have a whole bunch of defensive blessings. Stuff that gives you shields, the one that gives you a big damage reduction if you're at full HP, etc. And then also have a big pile of offense from somewhere.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    It's pretty disappointing that we didn't get a free March 7th today, or her new skin became available or anything. There's nothing in game at all. There's an event on the main Hoyo site for an avatar and theme and stuff to use there, but that's it.

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    FryFry Registered User regular
    Heh. The DoT Pure Fiction, I can get 40k on the front half with Black Swan and Kafka, but then struggle to just barely get 10k on the back half (with Herta and whatever else I can throw together). Awkward

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Hah, more leak stuff
    New Acheron E6 seems positively nutty. Basically gives her rainbow damage. Total whalebait. Though she also got her E1 moved into her base kit, so she should be stronger now at E0 too. Solid character to pull for and then possibly pull for again on reruns if you're not a space whale looking to max her out right away. Large power spikes at E2 and E6 make pulling for dupes over time feel better.

    Aventurine also got a slight nerf to his shield strength, but nothing major, still pulling for him.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Hah, more leak stuff
    New Acheron E6 seems positively nutty. Basically gives her rainbow damage. Total whalebait. Though she also got her E1 moved into her base kit, so she should be stronger now at E0 too. Solid character to pull for and then possibly pull for again on reruns if you're not a space whale looking to max her out right away. Large power spikes at E2 and E6 make pulling for dupes over time feel better.

    Aventurine also got a slight nerf to his shield strength, but nothing major, still pulling for him.
    So Acheron is literally Raiden Shogun from Genshin in that regard then. Solid at C0, C2 unlocks most of her power, C6 makes her beyond broken.

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    AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    Eidolons beyond E1 for limited characters do not exist, as far as I'm concerned. The upcoming 5*s both look quite good to me at E0, though, so I'm very much considering both of them.

    My decisions are very likely going to come down to "What banner is Gallagher on?" and "Is Sam going to be playable in patch 2.2?"

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited March 9
    I think if you really like a character and you have a solid base of characters already, pulling eidolons on reruns makes perfect sense to me

    It's also why I have E2 Daniel

    I could see if you are the Big Acheron Fan, getting her E6 over like four banners or something

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Eidolons beyond E1 for limited characters do not exist, as far as I'm concerned. The upcoming 5*s both look quite good to me at E0, though, so I'm very much considering both of them.

    My decisions are very likely going to come down to "What banner is Gallagher on?" and "Is Sam going to be playable in patch 2.2?"
    Gallagher will be these next two banners, which will be the Aventurine/Acheron patch. You will also get a four-star selector some time next patch that will have Gallagher on it.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited March 9
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I think if you really like a character and you have a solid base of characters already, pulling eidolons on reruns makes perfect sense to me

    It's also why I have E2 Daniel

    I could see if you are the Big Acheron Fan, getting her E6 over like four banners or something

    Yeah. I pulled for C2 Yae in Genshin on that logic - I use her a ton just because she's so good for just going fire and forget.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Gonna be regretting that E1 Silver Wolf I accidentally got for a while. Unless Acheron makes her suddenly more useful...

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I think if you really like a character and you have a solid base of characters already, pulling eidolons on reruns makes perfect sense to me

    It's also why I have E2 Daniel

    I could see if you are the Big Acheron Fan, getting her E6 over like four banners or something

    This is why I have C6 Childe.

    And I'll eventually get E6 Kafka.

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    ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    The funniest thing about Acheron is that her favorite sustains are Gepard and... Fire Trailblazer.

    She does seem kind of fun, and I don't really consider her team building requirements THAT severe since others like Kafka, Swan, or Ratio have similar issues. She looks to me like Kafka 2.0. Certainly good, but until her perfect partner shows up, like Swan to Kafka, in the form of a Nihility sustain, she's not going to really pop off.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Wondering how Acheron counts Guinaifen's defense debuffs since they stack up on enemy turns.

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I think if you really like a character and you have a solid base of characters already, pulling eidolons on reruns makes perfect sense to me

    It's also why I have E2 Daniel

    I could see if you are the Big Acheron Fan, getting her E6 over like four banners or something

    How broken is E2 Danny?

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    AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Wondering how Acheron counts Guinaifen's defense debuffs since they stack up on enemy turns.

    My understanding now (given that everything is subject to change before release) is that it doesn't work like you'd hope. Black Swan's arcana is similar; they only count when you use an ability to apply them.

    It's honestly kind of a mystery to me why that one preservation LC does work. It's so confusing that I wouldn't recommend anyone leveling it up until Acheron releases and the interaction is confirmed to still work.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    LD50 wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I think if you really like a character and you have a solid base of characters already, pulling eidolons on reruns makes perfect sense to me

    It's also why I have E2 Daniel

    I could see if you are the Big Acheron Fan, getting her E6 over like four banners or something

    How broken is E2 Danny?

    He's very strong, but kind of hilariously he actually makes his SP problems worse in a way, since you immediately spend his doodads on a free attack so his next turn you gotta spend 3 SP again.

    Sparkle is a bigger priority for him than E2 honestly.

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    LD50 wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I think if you really like a character and you have a solid base of characters already, pulling eidolons on reruns makes perfect sense to me

    It's also why I have E2 Daniel

    I could see if you are the Big Acheron Fan, getting her E6 over like four banners or something

    How broken is E2 Danny?

    He's very strong, but kind of hilariously he actually makes his SP problems worse in a way, since you immediately spend his doodads on a free attack so his next turn you gotta spend 3 SP again.

    Sparkle is a bigger priority for him than E2 honestly.

    Him with sparkle and with E2 seems hella broken. He'll have so many turns and will never need to run speed. Do you think that it would be better to pair him with Tingyun or with Ruanmei? Or just do both and don't bring a sustain at all?

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    Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited March 9
    Having a really shitty week. Keep pulling shit while begging the gacha to give me Sparkle so I can get my theoretic monoquantum QQ-god team off the ground (where QQ is at E5, was planning on buying her E6 from the Starlight shop after I rolled Sparkle up in case I rolled her). But one of the main reasons I've been having a shitty week is that I've been working crazy overtime hours. So I say fuck it, I'll buy a 10-pull.
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    ...well I guess it's time for Mono-Quantum to leave the station like a railgun.

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    ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
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    Polaritie wrote: »
    Wondering how Acheron counts Guinaifen's defense debuffs since they stack up on enemy turns.

    My understanding now (given that everything is subject to change before release) is that it doesn't work like you'd hope. Black Swan's arcana is similar; they only count when you use an ability to apply them.

    It's honestly kind of a mystery to me why that one preservation LC does work. It's so confusing that I wouldn't recommend anyone leveling it up until Acheron releases and the interaction is confirmed to still work.

    I think things need to be specifically tied to an action resolving. So things like arcana being inflicted from enemies just entering the field don't count, but an enemy summoned and having arcana inflicted on them as part of the summoning does. Firekiss takes place at the start of a turn, not at the resolution. So if it did add a stack, then an enemy taking a single turn would theoretically be able to add a stack at both the start of their action and the end if they're one of the ones that has a self-debuff (one of the new mobs does this). So Trend does work as it's part of the action resolution, and I would expect that Firekiss WOULD work if you detonated a burn with Kafka for example. It is undeniably pretty jank regardless.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    That makes sense as an explanation I guess. Dunno who that means works best for adding the debuffs then.

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    Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    Mono Quantum is officially online and hilarious.

    Sparkle feeds skill points to Quingque like the hungry gremlin she is and buffs her.
    Silver Wolf makes every enemy weak to quantum while simultaneously debuffing and shredding defense.
    Fu Xuan keeps the party at nearly full health while also boosting Crit.
    QQ launches nukes.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Both Ting and Ruan Mei are great for E2 Daniel

    I will say, E2 Daniel mucks up Ting's skill buff timing a bit because he burns it out faster with extra free turns

    I tend to prefer Ruan Mei slightly

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Ting is great for Cooler Daniel because of her battery mainly. Being able to top off for a triple action Ultimate with E2 is stronk

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Hoo boy. They've revealed the first of the next set of characters.

    5 Star, Physical Harmony
    Robin

    Whyyyyy another Harmony so soon

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Hoo boy. They've revealed the first of the next set of characters.

    5 Star, Physical Harmony
    Robin

    Whyyyyy another Harmony so soon
    They better have something real interesting planned for her considering that's going to be the third 5* harmony we're ultimately getting in Penacony.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited March 12
    Drip marketing too.
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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Can you please spoiler that. I know there's people still working through the story in this thread and it's why I used a spoiler tag in the first place.

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    AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    It's going to be difficult to avoid spoilers for something posted on their official twitter.
    That being said, in concern for spoilers, I am absolutely going to avoid public comments sections for this one.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Robin kit leak stuff
    She is another full party buffer.

    Her skill gives a Tingyun style attack boost to the entire party and a small action forward on her turn while it's active.

    When she ults she becomes unable to act, lowers her own aggro, and gives a huge party speed buff that also affects summons.

    She also applies Bleed with her attacks thanks to one of her major traces.

    She's going to be very good for Kafka/Swan, and a side grade to Ruan Mei elsewhere probably.

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