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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    Five survivors of the Mel Phillips ring boy scandal are suing WWE and the McMahons after more info came out via the Janel Grant suit earlier in the year https://www.f4wonline.com/news/wwe/lawsuit-filed-against-wwe-vince-mcmahon-on-behalf-of-ring-boy-scandal-survivors/

  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    edited October 23
    Good

    Edit: Just to expound on this, I haven't finished the Vince Netflix doc yet but I was getting angry during that second episode at how quickly the documentary just swept the ring boy stuff under the rug. Like, it's clear WWE still had some say over the final product and it was a Bill Simmons production which meant they were never going to actually take the company to task, but it was still an amazing bit of cowardice.

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  • Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    As many people have pointed out, it's very interesting that the guy seen as key to the company continuing (Pat) is the guy every WWE lifer has said is the only one innocent

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Nirya wrote: »
    Good

    Edit: Just to expound on this, I haven't finished the Vince Netflix doc yet but I was getting angry during that second episode at how quickly the documentary just swept the ring boy stuff under the rug. Like, it's clear WWE still had some say over the final product and it was a Bill Simmons production which meant they were never going to actually take the company to task, but it was still an amazing bit of cowardice.

    Aside from Meltzer correcting the Mania attendance records, talking about Hogan union busting and the Janel Grant case there's nothing in the Netflix documentary WWE wouldn't publish themselves. Everything from the steroid scandal to the ringboy scandal is how WWE would frame it. "Oh we were innocent, it was just this one bad actor. Let's talk about how great it is that we beat Billionaire Ted." Even the episode about Owen's death had less details than the episode of Dark Side of the Ring that came out years ago which would have shown just how unprofessional and unsafe the stunt was and how JR was told "he's dead. We're back on in 3...2...."

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    edited October 24
    It sure was rough seeing Chuckie T in the polo.

    Edit; but not as rough as seeing another Jericho title run wtf are we doing?

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  • Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    ...wasn't expecting the guillotines to first come out on AEW of all things but yeah, fuck up the billionaires!

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited October 24
    Lasbrook wrote: »

    Edit; but not as rough as seeing another Jericho title run wtf are we doing?

    There was speculation when this match was announced that perhaps RoH finally got a tv deal and much like when AEW stated they are using him as an anchor point

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    If Chris Jericho as RoH champ gets RoH tv and him off AEW I'll accept a second title run.

  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    "'No more Chris Jericho please.' Well that's almost a sentence."
    "Can I leave?"
    "Of course, and don't worry there will be plenty of Chris Jericho for you. Nobody's going to take away your precious Chris Jericho."
    "but the note was asking you to-"
    "No, tell Sonjay Dutt I said you could have a free Learning Tree segment. He'll make everything all right, I promise."

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  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    better news: Mystery Wrestling 11 is this saturday, October 27th, and features Stokely Hathaway on commentary

  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    Man, are there any happy stories in AEW right now? Heels hold all the belts, Danielson's gone, BCC is murdering people, Hangman's gone crazy, Swerve is probably getting set up to get beat down by MVP's stable, Jericho is winning, Ospreay's best friend betrayed him, Hook's dad got attacked and he got turned on while trying to get revenge...

    I know eventually faces will rise up, but man, it's a lot of darkness all at once right now. I need a hope spot or two.

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    I'm sort of burning out on the negative AEW stuff as well. It feels like every wrestler/faction is trying to be badass and dark simultaneously. The wrestling is still good - Ricochet vs AR Fox was awesome, and I'm always happy to see Private Party - but the storylines are bleak, and feel like we're in for more bloodbath matches than mimosa mayhams. I'm glad for folks that enjoy that, but think we need some balancing that isn't just fun videos by the Outrunners.

  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    AEW is definitely in the Revenge of the Sith or Empire Strikes Back phase for sure.

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  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    I think the issue is that they have faces right now doing things but I don't care about Darby Allin or Adam Cole.

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    The date is correct but mystery wrestling is actually Sunday, which is annoying because I accidentally double booked myself and will miss the start of it I think.

    Also, my complaint is less about the story and that the booking has gotten incredibly stale. They have been running a ton of squash matches or matches with just incredibly obvious outcomes between established wrestlers.

  • Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    Big E is apparently in a new Stephanie Hsu show called “Laid!”

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  • AlphaRomeroAlphaRomero Registered User regular
    All of this seems to be building to making Orange step up and become a main event guy. I think my only issue is that the light side having people like the Dark Order on it just makes it look weak. I know people like TDO but they've not done anything for a long time and putting them against whatever the BCC is called now is comical. I could see it coming down to Orange, Darby, and maybe even Swerve convincing Hangman to come back to his senses to fight a greater evil.

  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    I still want to see Swerve and Hangman become a very hateful tag team someday.

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  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    All of this seems to be building to making Orange step up and become a main event guy. I think my only issue is that the light side having people like the Dark Order on it just makes it look weak. I know people like TDO but they've not done anything for a long time and putting them against whatever the BCC is called now is comical.

    Every good team needs a Krillin and/or Yamcha

  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPvDb2HF8M

    Was watching this the other day, and I'd all but forgotten about how Raw and Smackdown used to have separate PPVs after the original brand split.

    With the way they're running PLEs now with only five matches each, I wonder if returning to that idea would be a good idea at all?

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    Five matches in three hours is insane to begin with.

    There is so much wasted time on these shows.

  • Dyvim TvarDyvim Tvar Registered User regular
    So obviously there's a lot of positives to Zacky boy being the IWGP champ, but I think the biggest is that he'll finally be able to afford a phone with a data plan again now that he's getting the champion's share of the purse.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    AEW uploaded a "Thank You Bryan!" video with highlights on his 2021-2022 stuff. It's 7 fucking hours long and labeled "part 1". Good lord!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_obXJsFGuo

    I had no idea Danielson worked AEW Dark as a luchador named Infinito (jump to 1:58:10).

    Also, nunchuck wielding John Silver didn't get talked about enough.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    AEW uploaded a "Thank You Bryan!" video with highlights on his 2021-2022 stuff. It's 7 fucking hours long and labeled "part 1". Good lord!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_obXJsFGuo

    I had no idea Danielson worked AEW Dark as a luchador named Infinito (jump to 1:58:10).

    Also, nunchuck wielding John Silver didn't get talked about enough.

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    I like to imagine that Infinito is old school lucha, never removing his mask, and that Ray Jazz guy has no idea that he wrestled against the possibly the greatest wrestler of all time.

  • GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I had no idea Danielson worked AEW Dark as a luchador named Infinito (jump to 1:58:10).

    And he was slotted right in the middle of the card. That's bonkers.

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  • SproutSprout Registered User regular
    Man, I miss Dark.

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »
    Man, I miss Dark.

    Based on what reports from people who would know alot of the AEW staff also misses it. and it sounds like it was a necessary evil to lose to get the last TV deal so I bet with Rampage going away it comes back in some form.

  • DHSDHS Chase lizards.. ...bark at donkeys..Registered User regular
    MCMG are the new WWE tag champs after beating G.o.D. is a true sentence that didn't make a lot of sense a year ago

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  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    Props to Gunther for pulling an A+ heel move and interrupting Cody's music right at the 'WOAH' crowd sing-along part. Instant heat, and allows for maximum heel smuggery.

    I'm honestly surprised more heels don't try this.

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    Speedball/Vikingo is a match of the year candidate for sure and I liked Bound for Glory through the main event, Jordynne/Masha, which was definitely for sure the main event and I won't think about or acknowledge what came after as canon because it was all a nightmare I had. Yep.

  • GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    Everyone should get to see Speedball live at least once.

  • KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    edited October 27
    Saw Collision live tonight. I had an excellent seat directly on-camera so if you knew what to look for you could've seen me making an ass out of myself, booing MxM and flipping off Rush. Nothing untoward or vulgar, just playing along with the show.

    Unfortunately there was a complete prick in the front row with a sign disparaging Anna Jay who was constantly harassing the wrestlers, especially the women. I was hoping he'd get thrown out but I don't believe it came to pass. There was also a medical emergency in the stands above me during the first RoH squash match, so if you see a bunch of people looking away from the ring that's why.

    I left before the main event of the RoH taping but it was
    a Ring of Horror match with a bunch of Halloween props.
    The Infantry also had a great match that was almost enough to wake the crowd up after three and a half hours of wrestling. I understand why they tape these shows after the live events but it really burns the crowd out.

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  • KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    https://youtu.be/Qsw3FDtHGUk?si=b-BEGyS82cFfi94

    There was a flyer taped up in the lobby with a QR code that linked to this video. I completely forgot about it until just now, but if you enjoy this sort of thing, here you go.

  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited October 27
    The script and delivery on that newsreel are epic. I especially liked the little throw away in the Japan segment: "...revealed an affair with Stan Hansen..."

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    I don't understand why tgey don't do RoH and Rampage before Dynamite/Collision, because those shows can't follow an actual main event.

  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited October 27
    I guarantee you, this episode will not go the way you think it will. Please don't skip it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trGFu4dWLYY

    Sadly, the thumbnail spoils it a bit.

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  • AlphaRomeroAlphaRomero Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    I don't understand why tgey don't do RoH and Rampage before Dynamite/Collision, because those shows can't follow an actual main event.

    Probably harder to get as full a crowd for ROH as the main shows.

    Harley somehow is even more beautiful in face paint? Not sure how.

    ANyone know why Erica Lee hasn't been with the Outrunners? I liked her manic energy.

  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    We’re in the first match of mystery wrestling, a 20 man rumble in memory of Future Lightning London.
    So far the entrants have been Freddy, Jason, Two Ghostfaces, Two Michael Meyers and Santa

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    edited October 27
    Unfortunately Jay Lethal is in match two but it’s over now.

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