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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    I personally miss Marv Albert, but his last year he was making mistakes like every other play, it was clear his time was done.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    hubie is the best national color announcer because he’s the only person who actually watches basketball or knows anything about it.

    he’s not great just because he’s so old, but i’ll listen to 100 hubie games before one reggie miller or stan van gundy game. every time svg tries to host a podcast about some personal gripe he has in the middle of the third quarter i wanna throw myself off a bridge.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    I will admit his analysis is still excellent often, just in the moment when I made that post he had a serious drawl to his tone meanwhile I was coming off an intensity level that deeply upset my dog.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    Personally, im always here for some Van Gundy. I do think that Jeff got overly grumpy, to the point where it felt like he didnt really enjoy the game anymore sometimes, but i also thought he was funny and more thoughtful than anyone else. Stan is still great, imo.

  • marajimaraji Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    Jebus314 wrote: »
    Boston getting in their awful shooting game early this round. 22% from three, 41% from the floor.

    Cleveland deserves some credit for playing inspired defense, but I'm starting to understand the criticism of Mazzulla in this thread. Boston erased an early deficit in the second by scoring 18 in the paint and they still decided to try and shoot themselves out of the next deficit from long range.

    Mazzula also never seems to have any ideas about what to do as a game progresses - he doesn’t call time outs at good spots, he doesn’t call or draw up plays to exploit the flow of the game. He basically just relies on his talent to figure it out for him… and Boston has a ton of talent, but they revert to chucking threes when it’s late. It’s been a problem since Stevens, but he had much better in-game coaching and less raw talent to work with.

    It’s no coincidence that this Boston team had its best result so far with Udoka - he seemed to be able to handle talent (and the egos that come with it) than Stevens, and was much better in-game than Mazzula.

    Maybe they can overcome that this year, but any team going against the Celtics has a chance if they can make the Celtics have to work for it. Make their plan run into trouble and if the fallback threes don’t go in at a high rate you have a better chance than you’d think looking at stats and numbers.

  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    maraji wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Jebus314 wrote: »
    Boston getting in their awful shooting game early this round. 22% from three, 41% from the floor.

    Cleveland deserves some credit for playing inspired defense, but I'm starting to understand the criticism of Mazzulla in this thread. Boston erased an early deficit in the second by scoring 18 in the paint and they still decided to try and shoot themselves out of the next deficit from long range.

    Mazzula also never seems to have any ideas about what to do as a game progresses - he doesn’t call time outs at good spots, he doesn’t call or draw up plays to exploit the flow of the game. He basically just relies on his talent to figure it out for him… and Boston has a ton of talent, but they revert to chucking threes when it’s late. It’s been a problem since Stevens, but he had much better in-game coaching and less raw talent to work with.

    It’s no coincidence that this Boston team had its best result so far with Udoka - he seemed to be able to handle talent (and the egos that come with it) than Stevens, and was much better in-game than Mazzula.

    Maybe they can overcome that this year, but any team going against the Celtics has a chance if they can make the Celtics have to work for it. Make their plan run into trouble and if the fallback threes don’t go in at a high rate you have a better chance than you’d think looking at stats and numbers.

    Mazzula's inability to make in-game adjustments is very apparent. It's probably his biggest weakness.

  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    I'm sad my team lost at basketball. On the positive side, everyone will just focus on Boston losing. And we definitely didn't play our best game -- not as stressed about it as I thought I might be.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited May 10
    If I'm a Boston fan, I am thoroughly unimpressed by Tatum's post game comments in the presser as well. Dude didn't hold himself responsible for his awful shooting at all and the comparison to the lone Miami win the previous series isn't very strong. Miami set a franchise record going 23/43 from downtown that game, but Cleveland went a much more normal 13/28 last night.

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  • TicaldfjamTicaldfjam Snoqualmie, WARegistered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    If I'm a Boston fan, I am thoroughly unimpressed by Tatum's post game comments in the presser as well. Dude didn't hold himself responsible for his awful shooting at all and the comparison to the lone Miami win the previous series isn't very strong. Miami set a franchise record going 23/43 from downtown that game, but Cleveland went a much more normal 13/28 last night.

    If Rick Carslie was coaching them instead of Indiana, Celtics are winning the whole thing.

    Instead, Mazzula has a Deer in Headlights look, Everytime. Should let Jrue Holiday be player -coach instead.

  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    If I'm a Boston fan, I am thoroughly unimpressed by Tatum's post game comments in the presser as well. Dude didn't hold himself responsible for his awful shooting at all and the comparison to the lone Miami win the previous series isn't very strong. Miami set a franchise record going 23/43 from downtown that game, but Cleveland went a much more normal 13/28 last night.

    pretty sure Celtics fans have a love/hate relationship with Tatum. they were absolutely destroying him after the 2022 Finals.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    I didn't watch much of that series or any of the pressers then so I can't comment on how consistent last night's compares to any in the past. All I can say is how surprised I was not hear anything remotely critical of himself or his team. It's not hard to say "We need to be better" or "I need to make more shots", but there wasn't even a semblance of accountability. They're probably talented enough to take the East anyway, but they should be terrified of whoever comes out of the West.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited May 10
    Honestly, they are so vastly overtalented compared to the Knicks that they would probably win, but it seems like its impossible to just come out there chill and in cruise control against a team like that. Like, just their energy, intensity, and that MSG crowd would wake up or overwhelm any team.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited May 10
    Everyone is more talented than the Knicks right now with Randall out and Anunoby only having one arm (oh and one hamstring now, of course)

    ….except Jalen Brunson is unstoppable and the Villanova crew just wins

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    edited May 10
    and lately Celtics been garbage at home in the playoffs. they forced game 7 last year after being down 3-0 in their gym and got completely demolished.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    And frankly that Miami team had less talent than half of the East this year. Like I love Bam and Jimmy, but they were both pretty banged up and never should have gone as far as they did.

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  • marajimaraji Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    If I'm a Boston fan, I am thoroughly unimpressed by Tatum's post game comments in the presser as well. Dude didn't hold himself responsible for his awful shooting at all and the comparison to the lone Miami win the previous series isn't very strong. Miami set a franchise record going 23/43 from downtown that game, but Cleveland went a much more normal 13/28 last night.

    I’m not a fan of any particular NBA team anymore, but I still enjoy the games and watching these amazingly talented guys do amazing things. However, I live in the Celtics market so they’re the players I see the most and hear the most about.

    That press session by Tatum was both hilarious and very representative of what he values and how he thinks about his role at his job.

  • wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    Tatum doesn't like driving to the basket even though that's the only thing that ties the rest of his game together.

    He's obsessed with stupid fade aways and step-back 3's and he's just not very good at them. I think I saw a stat that he was 22-88 from 3 in their last 31 home playoff games in which their record is 14-17

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  • marajimaraji Registered User regular
    wazilla wrote: »
    Tatum doesn't like driving to the basket even though that's the only thing that ties the rest of his game together.

    He's obsessed with stupid fade aways and step-back 3's and he's just not very good at them. I think I saw a stat that he was 22-88 from 3 in their last 31 home playoff games in which their record is 14-17

    Absolutely. The team did really well in a few games this season when they decided to “make a statement” about how they can win in different ways and they started going inside more.

    He tends to fall back to those shots when things are already going poorly, and he also tends to disengage from the game at the same time - which just makes things worse and compounds into that stat line.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    so its gonna be coach bud that draws the assignment to somehow make the sun work? lol

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    so its gonna be coach bud that draws the assignment to somehow make the sun work? lol

    looks like you were right

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    Oh God. Don't Tell Dl they are right about something. I'm worried they will evolve Pokemon style into something even more horrible and fearsome.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited May 10
    It's too late
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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    oh shit
    Josh Hart follows this thread
    https://x.com/sny_knicks/status/1788956679452676554

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    oh shit
    Josh Hart follows this thread
    https://x.com/sny_knicks/status/1788956679452676554

    Heh yeah I saw that.

    That's the key to any good conspiracy though, right? The NBA is simultaneously powerful enough to rig games at will for decades and decades, with billions of dollars on the line while keeping it mostly covered up, but also weak and incompetent enough that they haven't managed to push the Knicks over the finish line since the 70s and somehow let the San Antonio Spurs wind up with 5 titles and a generational international superstar in the process.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    edited May 11
    they literally rigged the draft for the knicks on television once lol, idk man.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    I love that theory. The Knicks had a 50/50 chance to win the lottery, and then they win "it must be rigged!" Nevermind there was no real mechanism for how it could happen (i know the frozen envelope, bent corner theories. None make sense without rummaging)

  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Clearly the NBA loves Cleveland which is why it rigged the number one pick for them 4 times in like 12 years.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    1/7 not 50/50

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    1/7 not 50/50

    Oh, you're right! That was the first year it wasnt 50/50. My bad.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    donte divincenzo superstar
    Congrats on MVP Nikola but I really think Donte Divincenzo deserved it more

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited May 11
    So the wolves just gonna give em one?
    Score really should be 41-43 right now though

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    So the wolves just gonna give em one?
    Score really should be 41-43 right now though

    Nuggets shooting 57%, 58% on 3s. Murray being super efficient right now.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    TelMarine wrote: »
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    So the wolves just gonna give em one?
    Score really should be 41-43 right now though

    Nuggets shooting 57%, 58% on 3s. Murray being super efficient right now.

    Who?
    #illegitmatepoints

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    The bench needs to come through and maintain the lead >24 points for this win to count

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    The bench needs to come through and maintain the lead >24 points for this win to count

    27 point delta

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    Two Curry-esque "throw the ball completely away to nobody" passes for the Thunder so far, which is uncharacteristic and makes me sad.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    This game has been so underwhelming even the announcers are expressing surprise at its "sleepy"-ness

  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited May 11
    DJJ with a legendary flop to end the half. SGA lightly hits him in the shoulder with an elbow, which he responds to by grabbing his face and staying on the floor for a minute, before slowly limping off. Not a technical on review, and the sequence ends with DJJ laughing at his own theatrics.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    Watching lanky ass Chet chase Lively around to try and foul him felt like it should have some Benny Hill music.

  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    big win for the Mavs. can Luka make it through the whole series? getting beat up.

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