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[Anime] of Fall 2024: Aliens VS Spirits, Remakes VS Isekais

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  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    I watched Remake our life, and it maybe hits a little close to home at first, but has an ok ending.

    Then I watched a few more episodes of frieren. It is so weird how one episode can be at a 0 and then the next is balls to the wall 100. Still have around 11 to go, but the trek north has been less interesting since they fought the demons.

  • djmitchelladjmitchella Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    At this point, I am resigned to the fact that I hated JJK so much and for so long, that I am no longer able to recognize if it does something good, because I hate pretty much everything on principle.

    I'm in "Any actual bloody foreshadowing other than the craziest of crazy hypotheticals would have helped this land a lot b etter".

    It's dumb enough i have to laugh.

    I've tried reading JJK twice now and both times got a few dozen chapters in before it lost me; I was curious about what's going on now, though, so I tried reading the most recent chapter to see if I could work out what the fuss is about, and to be honest I couldn't tell. Is there any way to explain what's so surprising about these events without needing hundreds of chapters of backstory?

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    At this point, I am resigned to the fact that I hated JJK so much and for so long, that I am no longer able to recognize if it does something good, because I hate pretty much everything on principle.

    I'm in "Any actual bloody foreshadowing other than the craziest of crazy hypotheticals would have helped this land a lot b etter".

    It's dumb enough i have to laugh.

    I've tried reading JJK twice now and both times got a few dozen chapters in before it lost me; I was curious about what's going on now, though, so I tried reading the most recent chapter to see if I could work out what the fuss is about, and to be honest I couldn't tell. Is there any way to explain what's so surprising about these events without needing hundreds of chapters of backstory?

    Spoilers, obv
    so they're in the final battle against sukuna right now (presumably). Gojo was the favorite character in the series, and sukuna killed him. He's also been killing a ton of other people. Anyway, after sukuna left the body of the main character he's basically been sidelined and useless until very recently, and the new main character was his brother, who was the MC of the one shot (which was made into the movie JJK 0), who was ALSO recently killed by sukuna.

    Except he wasn't killed, they got him out in time barely, and used his ability to steal the powers of one of the other primary bad guys which lets him transplant his brain into other bodies (which, sidenote, also means said bad guy is MC's mom, but that's a while separate things), which he then used to put his brain into Gojo's body, which is now back

  • Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    I guess vague spoilers for the general ambience of JJK
    I am one of the (seemingly) few who really like that damn manga and I think it's in great part because of how it is able to consistently one-up my "jesus christ that is so horrible" meter

    Wow! I thought it couldn't get worse emotionally but it always definitely can!

    Why do I enjoy this? I cannot say.

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    "Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
  • The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    I imagine it's like being in a rocket launch some day where gonna get to space but currently we keep exploding at different parts on the way to and it's fun for me either eay

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    Ok I do think frieren stuck the landing. I got worried over nothing. What a wonderful season

  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    edited May 28
    I'd initially written off JJK s2 when folks said it was bad last year, but the juxtaposition of impressions since then has been kinda fascinating so I might give it a look.

    I've seen the first season, which was fun as hell. And the movie, which was aggressively mid.

    Veldrin on
  • Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    Honestly I LOVED the second season of the anime which is why I'm reading the manga.

    JJK 0 I feel like mostly gives you some characters and context. The internal narrative arc as a movie could've been done better.

    But yeah you should watch season two! For real for real!

    And then just like let go of everything you love from that point on, proactively.

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    "Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
  • Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    Oh also thanks for the Apothecary Diairies recommendation, thread, that was a lot of fun and a very good palate cleanser.

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    "Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    The first half of Season 2 is amazing, and probably my favorite in the show.

    The second half is... unrelenting, I'll give it that.

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  • djmitchelladjmitchella Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Asthariel wrote: »
    At this point, I am resigned to the fact that I hated JJK so much and for so long, that I am no longer able to recognize if it does something good, because I hate pretty much everything on principle.

    I'm in "Any actual bloody foreshadowing other than the craziest of crazy hypotheticals would have helped this land a lot b etter".

    It's dumb enough i have to laugh.

    I've tried reading JJK twice now and both times got a few dozen chapters in before it lost me; I was curious about what's going on now, though, so I tried reading the most recent chapter to see if I could work out what the fuss is about, and to be honest I couldn't tell. Is there any way to explain what's so surprising about these events without needing hundreds of chapters of backstory?

    Spoilers, obv
    so they're in the final battle against sukuna right now (presumably). Gojo was the favorite character in the series, and sukuna killed him. He's also been killing a ton of other people. Anyway, after sukuna left the body of the main character he's basically been sidelined and useless until very recently, and the new main character was his brother, who was the MC of the one shot (which was made into the movie JJK 0), who was ALSO recently killed by sukuna.

    Except he wasn't killed, they got him out in time barely, and used his ability to steal the powers of one of the other primary bad guys which lets him transplant his brain into other bodies (which, sidenote, also means said bad guy is MC's mom, but that's a while separate things), which he then used to put his brain into Gojo's body, which is now back
    oh, interesting -- Yuji still seemed to be the main character at the point I dropped off, so I guess things have moved on a whole bunch since then. Thanks for the explanation!

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Asthariel wrote: »
    At this point, I am resigned to the fact that I hated JJK so much and for so long, that I am no longer able to recognize if it does something good, because I hate pretty much everything on principle.

    I'm in "Any actual bloody foreshadowing other than the craziest of crazy hypotheticals would have helped this land a lot b etter".

    It's dumb enough i have to laugh.

    I've tried reading JJK twice now and both times got a few dozen chapters in before it lost me; I was curious about what's going on now, though, so I tried reading the most recent chapter to see if I could work out what the fuss is about, and to be honest I couldn't tell. Is there any way to explain what's so surprising about these events without needing hundreds of chapters of backstory?

    Spoilers, obv
    so they're in the final battle against sukuna right now (presumably). Gojo was the favorite character in the series, and sukuna killed him. He's also been killing a ton of other people. Anyway, after sukuna left the body of the main character he's basically been sidelined and useless until very recently, and the new main character was his brother, who was the MC of the one shot (which was made into the movie JJK 0), who was ALSO recently killed by sukuna.

    Except he wasn't killed, they got him out in time barely, and used his ability to steal the powers of one of the other primary bad guys which lets him transplant his brain into other bodies (which, sidenote, also means said bad guy is MC's mom, but that's a while separate things), which he then used to put his brain into Gojo's body, which is now back
    oh, interesting -- Yuji still seemed to be the main character at the point I dropped off, so I guess things have moved on a whole bunch since then. Thanks for the explanation!
    (JJK Manga)
    Worth noting this final battle has been going on for dozens of chapters at this point, and much like the Shibuya Incident, any point at which you think a hero could put an end to it, SOMETHING out of left field ruins things and keeps the disaster going on even longer.

    All the character deaths are melding together at this point, and most of them barely even register, since you never know if the character truly died or if Gege's going to come up with some crazy way to bring them back.

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    Please, please, please let the animation for the action be real good.

    Apparently the studio isn't being seen as, well, an optimal choice:
    "Damn. This series would probably have explode if it was given a decent adaptation like JJK was. It's pretty much Dad John Wick and has some of the best action paneling in Jump right now.

    I don't have any faith in that studio."
    "Goddamnit, TMS is animating. There's no hope for this. I'm crushed.

    Shueisha had a smash hit on their hands and decided to throw it away. Fucking unbelievable. "

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    Anyone know what TMS has done? I realize I haven't watched any of their works.

  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    EVERYONE

    https://youtu.be/Bf4XTzeUBHo?feature=shared

    THIS SUMMER

    EVERYTHING

    BECOMES

    DEER

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited May 28
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    Please, please, please let the animation for the action be real good.

    Apparently the studio isn't being seen as, well, an optimal choice:
    "Damn. This series would probably have explode if it was given a decent adaptation like JJK was. It's pretty much Dad John Wick and has some of the best action paneling in Jump right now.

    I don't have any faith in that studio."
    "Goddamnit, TMS is animating. There's no hope for this. I'm crushed.

    Shueisha had a smash hit on their hands and decided to throw it away. Fucking unbelievable. "

    Wait, since when has TMS been considered bad animation?

    Like, did their pedigree drop off somewhere? They’ve been around forever, their 90s output was gorgeous, and while I haven’t seen Angel Dust yet, I rewatched Shinjuku Private Eyes and that looked fantastic

    [EDIT: wait no right, City Hunter is sunrise, but I think TMS is connected in some way to them?]
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    Please, please, please let the animation for the action be real good.

    Apparently the studio isn't being seen as, well, an optimal choice:
    "Damn. This series would probably have explode if it was given a decent adaptation like JJK was. It's pretty much Dad John Wick and has some of the best action paneling in Jump right now.

    I don't have any faith in that studio."
    "Goddamnit, TMS is animating. There's no hope for this. I'm crushed.

    Shueisha had a smash hit on their hands and decided to throw it away. Fucking unbelievable. "

    TheOfficeMichaelNo.gif

    Anyone know what TMS has done? I realize I haven't watched any of their works.

    Assuming there’s not some other TMS, it’s Tokyo Movie Shinsha, in which case their pedigree is decades long. Lupin, Detective Conan, basically every 90s western cartoon you loved as a kid when they Good Animation Studio was on call for an episode.


    in the last decade or so, you’ve got The Woman Named Fujiko Mine, Lupin Parts 4 through 6, both seasons of Megalobox, the Doctor Stone adaptation, etc.

    That’s why I’m baffled that people would think TMS is bad animation.

    EDIT:

    https://youtu.be/bTK_-Id7MZY?feature=shared

    are these people high?

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    Please, please, please let the animation for the action be real good.

    Apparently the studio isn't being seen as, well, an optimal choice:
    "Damn. This series would probably have explode if it was given a decent adaptation like JJK was. It's pretty much Dad John Wick and has some of the best action paneling in Jump right now.

    I don't have any faith in that studio."
    "Goddamnit, TMS is animating. There's no hope for this. I'm crushed.

    Shueisha had a smash hit on their hands and decided to throw it away. Fucking unbelievable. "

    TheOfficeMichaelNo.gif

    Anyone know what TMS has done? I realize I haven't watched any of their works.

    From what I gather, it's less that they're bad per se, and known for being a workhorse studio that just churns stuff out without much in the way of real effort.

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    That, the Sakamoto Days fans are hyped for all the action that's happening that they want a major studio to animate it, maybe?

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    Please, please, please let the animation for the action be real good.

    Apparently the studio isn't being seen as, well, an optimal choice:
    "Damn. This series would probably have explode if it was given a decent adaptation like JJK was. It's pretty much Dad John Wick and has some of the best action paneling in Jump right now.

    I don't have any faith in that studio."
    "Goddamnit, TMS is animating. There's no hope for this. I'm crushed.

    Shueisha had a smash hit on their hands and decided to throw it away. Fucking unbelievable. "

    TheOfficeMichaelNo.gif

    Anyone know what TMS has done? I realize I haven't watched any of their works.

    a lot of big deal stuff in the distant past, but in more relevant recent work I recognize the fruits basket remake, dr. stone, undead unluck, and rent-a-girlfriend.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    Anything short of the most prestigious studio in the biz is of course a disaster and can only mean that the adaptation will be trash.

  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited May 28
    Zek wrote: »
    Anything short of the most prestigious studio in the biz is of course a disaster and can only mean that the adaptation will be trash.

    That’s definitely the vibe I’m getting reading the thread the quotes are from

    Meanwhile, again TMS has put out some of their best work in year after year.

    https://youtu.be/BYB-o0m5llE?feature=shared
    https://youtu.be/7FoGW169OIs?feature=shared
    https://youtu.be/9oTIuknrMB4?feature=shared
    https://youtu.be/hwFNoegRUcI?feature=shared
    [I’m assuming these jump cuts are by the uploaders? I still need to check out the UU anime; also lord I didn’t realize how fast that adaption consumed chapters going by some of these uploads]
    That, the Sakamoto Days fans are hyped for all the action that's happening that they want a major studio to animate it, maybe?

    That’s the weird part about the reaction, because TMS is like one of the biggest and most established studios. It’s like Complaining Sunrise (god I don’t wanna call it by its new name man…) isn’t a good studio just because it’s not MAPPA or MADHOUSE

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the same studio that's doing Apothecary Diaries also responsible for Berserk '97? (Re: the good one)

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited May 28
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the same studio that's doing Apothecary Diaries also responsible for Berserk '97? (Re: the good one)

    Both are Nippon TV, yeah

    EDIT: wait no, that’s broadcaster, double checking studio to see

    EDIT: okay yeah, OLM did both, specifically Team Iguchi for Berserk, and Apothacary is a joint OLM/Toho production

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    a difference of 25 years means a lot though, like the studio name's the same but it's definitely mostly different people after that long.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Undead unluck's adaptation is pretty good, it just got zero penetration because Disney doesn't advertise their anime gets at all

  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    edited May 28
    Undead Unluck adaptation suffers a lot because of a high amount of unnecessary flashbacks, that ruin the high pace of the manga. I honestly recommend watching the anime with the finger on the speed up button whenever we see something that does not need reminding us about.

    And it is a shame, because high pace is one of the strenghts of the manga's story.

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  • djmitchelladjmitchella Registered User regular
    Lanz wrote: »
    Assuming there’s not some other TMS, it’s Tokyo Movie Shinsha, in which case their pedigree is decades long. Lupin, Detective Conan, basically every 90s western cartoon you loved as a kid when they Good Animation Studio was on call for an episode.

    Yeah, my first thought was "oh, the folks that did the best-looking episodes of Tiny Toon Adventures/Animaniacs" -- which was a long time ago, and in a different context, but, still, they definitely come with a bunch of positive associations for me. (edit: hang on, they did _Akira_, and that's not enough?)

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    The last episode of Kaiju No. 8 had lots of "oh, that's why they got Production I.G." levels of hype.

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  • archivistkitsunearchivistkitsune Registered User regular
    Wondering how much of the anti-TMS sentiment is a result of people either demanding perfection or to eager to throw every failing at the feet of the studio.

    No one is going to get a perfect track record, the more work a studio puts out, the higher the odds are that they are going to get a dud. Sometimes that is on them, but sometimes it's out of their hands. Some series are really hard to adapt well into an anime format, be it a movie, OVA or standard TV seasons. Sometimes the fans are just being too damn unreasonable and a decent or good adaption just gets panned by the fandom and doesn't have the appeal, that you get a bunch of anime fans who find it as a hidden gem later on. Sometimes the people distributing the work fuck the studio over, point in case what Disney has been getting up to.

    Hell, IIRC the author does get to input on the adaption and that alone can hose over an adaption, depending on a combination of things with the author.

    Also I have to wonder how much of the angst is driven more by "I don't like this art style and I'm butthurt that the studio stuck with it for it's adaption!" I tend to disagree, I'd argue a studio that is trying to do a great job at adapting someone's work, should incorporate the art style; especially, if the original source material is a manga. The art style is almost always going to be part of the appeal a manga has because I know I'm not the only one that has passed up on some stuff that sounded interesting because I really didn't care for the art style.

    I haven't seen all their stuff, but from what I have seen and based on the overall reception. It seems like TMS is a fairly solid studio and people are being unreasonable here. Sakamoto Days probably has a very good shot of getting a very solid adaption.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Mill wrote: »
    Hell, IIRC the author does get to input on the adaption and that alone can hose over an adaption, depending on a combination of things with the author.

    this depends a lot on the individual production

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 28
    People complained about the CSM adaptation to high heaven for some stupid reason, but I loved it and Fujimoto was heavily involved.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Lanz wrote: »
    EVERYONE

    https://youtu.be/Bf4XTzeUBHo?feature=shared

    THIS SUMMER

    EVERYTHING

    BECOMES

    DEER
    I have no idea WTF this is but the banana joke at the end killed me

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    is a wacky comedy of some sort, I am going to guess based on a 4 koma-format gag manga

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Lanz wrote: »
    EVERYONE

    https://youtu.be/Bf4XTzeUBHo?feature=shared

    THIS SUMMER

    EVERYTHING

    BECOMES

    DEER
    I have no idea WTF this is but the banana joke at the end killed me

    Well, I found the OP:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB9lhfJeu2U

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  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    I believe there was also a Nausicaa joke near the beginning of that PV.

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  • darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited May 28
    BECOME AS DEER

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  • IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost This is also my fault Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »

    RIDE ON! (RIDE ON!) RIDE ON!

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    was it "ride on" or "right on"

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    ah I see

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