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People have been getting (IMHO a little too) hype saying that Dandadan is the next JJK. I feel that's setting up expectations that may not be met, because I honestly think Dandadan places as much importance on the romcom and the heart-tugging bits as the battle stuff (and I love it for that). Dandadan doesn't even have power levels!
I dunno, like 3 episodes into dandadan is more interesting than the entire 1st season of JJK. I think I just hated JJK but needed to find out why people were going crazy over it. I also only made it through like 3 episodes of chainsaw man before stopping.
Dandadan is also vastly smarter and more complicated, and has better art than JJK ever did.
Like shit, i enjoyed JJK intially and things, i'm not even a huge Danadan fan, but... comparing them is just kinda oof and werid to me. JJK got severely elevated by a very good anime. Danadan has an already spectular manga.
I dunno, like 3 episodes into dandadan is more interesting than the entire 1st season of JJK. I think I just hated JJK but needed to find out why people were going crazy over it. I also only made it through like 3 episodes of chainsaw man before stopping.
the Chainsawman anime stops quite a bit before the story really shows itself. it's a very slow burn and not really sold as what it is
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The manga for CSM is much snappier than the animes slow burn cinematic style. You'll rush through the start lightning quick.
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I feel like a big part of what made JJK season 1 so popular was the character dynamics, particularly that fantastic ED, and Dandadan is even better at it.
jjk is fine. the anime will be better than the manga at the end of the day because everything post shibuya is just one gigantic nonstop fight for like 180 chapters and it'll look cool animated.
dandadan dogwalks that shit tho...turbo granny low diffs sukuna
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Never really gotten far in JJK to be honest (just up to the ex-Salary man?), but I vaguely remember it as being pretty much supernatural battle shounen with focus on lore/plot and combat.
Dandadan is also vastly smarter and more complicated, and has better art than JJK ever did.
Like shit, i enjoyed JJK intially and things, i'm not even a huge Danadan fan, but... comparing them is just kinda oof and werid to me. JJK got severely elevated by a very good anime. Danadan has an already spectular manga.
I'm a Dandadan fan, so I'm inclined to agree by default, but could you elaborate on how smarter it is?
Is it because of the combat tactics Momo and Okarun employs to beat more powerful enemies? Or the elements that change up the scenario to keep it from being a straight up fight?
JJK is a lot like Hunter X Hunter in that it takes place in a world designed for the sole purpose of having sick magic fights blowing everything up and there's not much beyond that veneer.
The Disneyland of power levels.
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Chainsaw Man is definitely a slow burn, but after a certain point, it hits the ground running, I think the fact that they take their time investing you in the characters beforehand leads to a very good payoff later on.
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I feel like a big part of what made JJK season 1 so popular was the character dynamics, particularly that fantastic ED, and Dandadan is even better at it.
Unfortunately, I think after the Shibuya Incident, people are on to Gege's schtick, that he just builds up characters for him to pluck them away with little fanfare, and it doesn't get better later on.
I feel like a big part of what made JJK season 1 so popular was the character dynamics, particularly that fantastic ED, and Dandadan is even better at it.
Unfortunately, I think after the Shibuya Incident, people are on to Gege's schtick, that he just builds up characters for him to pluck them away with little fanfare, and it doesn't get better later on.
I think Shibuya on its own was fine, and is still well regarded. It’s only after seeing the mush that happens in the rest of the series, and tracing many of the roots back to decisions Gege made during Shibuya, that the flaws in that arc really present themselves. Like, if he’d had a sudden heart attack the day after finishing the Shibuya Incident, and we never found out what came after, I think it would be considered one of the best arcs of modern shonen.
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I feel like a big part of what made JJK season 1 so popular was the character dynamics, particularly that fantastic ED, and Dandadan is even better at it.
Unfortunately, I think after the Shibuya Incident, people are on to Gege's schtick, that he just builds up characters for him to pluck them away with little fanfare, and it doesn't get better later on.
I think Shibuya on its own was fine, and is still well regarded. It’s only after seeing the mush that happens in the rest of the series, and tracing many of the roots back to decisions Gege made during Shibuya, that the flaws in that arc really present themselves. Like, if he’d had a sudden heart attack the day after finishing the Shibuya Incident, and we never found out what came after, I think it would be considered one of the best arcs of modern shonen.
I loved Hidden Inventory, and really wasn't that into Shibuya. The fights were cool, but there was no heart behind them, just 'here's random thing that happens, to make absolute sure other thing can't go right'.
Watching Ranma for the first time... I think his real curse is that he gets fully soaked in cold water multiple times every day. And just as often people keep pouring boiling water on his head without warning.
It feels like Dandadan author likes his characters and enjoys writing about them, and them growing up through interactions with each other.
On the other hand, Gege feels nothing for his characters and uses them only as tools necessary to show cool fights and convoluted rules of his battle system.
i don't even disagree exactly but calling chainsawman a slow burn is very funny
like yeah i guess the gas station explosion started comparatively slowly
If one's invested in Denji from the jump like I was, it probably doesn't feel like it, but if one gets put off by his personality traits and don't realize it's building to something, I could see it being not their cup of tea.
I don't watch Regular Show - why is Dandadan often compared to it?
The mundane first half quickly morphs into a fantastical second half. The main characters in Regular Show might start an episode planning a surprise birthday party, for example, but after a series of unlikely events they'll somehow be fending off ghosts and aliens for the climax.
Never really gotten far in JJK to be honest (just up to the ex-Salary man?), but I vaguely remember it as being pretty much supernatural battle shounen with focus on lore/plot and combat.
Dandadan is also vastly smarter and more complicated, and has better art than JJK ever did.
Like shit, i enjoyed JJK intially and things, i'm not even a huge Danadan fan, but... comparing them is just kinda oof and werid to me. JJK got severely elevated by a very good anime. Danadan has an already spectular manga.
I'm a Dandadan fan, so I'm inclined to agree by default, but could you elaborate on how smarter it is?
Is it because of the combat tactics Momo and Okarun employs to beat more powerful enemies? Or the elements that change up the scenario to keep it from being a straight up fight?
There's no real depth to anything going on in JJK. It's just Powerfights: The Manga. Sometimes you get cool stuff, sometimes it's jsut what you're in the mood for, but there's not really al ot of depth other htan AND NOW THEY FIGHT go on. There's complexity, sure, but not really depth. and Gege just isnt that interested in exploring the depth he could have.
By comparison, DDD is pulling actively on both mythology and UFO lore (actually @Local H Jay you read/watched Danadan yet? I think you'd get a real kick out of it!), and doing some fairly crazy deep dives. The characters are actual characters - one of the best bits of JJK was when the main trio got to just... interact, and it yeeted that pretty violently. DDD's built it's cast up, and ubilt their interactions up.
Bakarina / "I am the villainess and all paths lead to doom" has been having too much, I dunno, actual _plot_ recently, so it was nice to have the latest chapter go back to basics:
Honestly....it should have just stayed "done." It was amazing lightning in a bottle, didn't overstay its welcome, and was tons of fun. The sequel is just.... The same jokes, again, attempting to build and add more cast, and it just feels so soulless and pointless.
I don't watch Regular Show - why is Dandadan often compared to it?
The mundane first half quickly morphs into a fantastical second half. The main characters in Regular Show might start an episode planning a surprise birthday party, for example, but after a series of unlikely events they'll somehow be fending off ghosts and aliens for the climax.
yeah its this.
i recently read a post about dandadan theorizing a character was a vampire. at first i thought "there's zero indication vampires exist in this setting, this is stupid". but then a moment later i realized "it would be way weirder if vampires didn't exist. everything exists in this setting"
I don't watch Regular Show - why is Dandadan often compared to it?
The mundane first half quickly morphs into a fantastical second half. The main characters in Regular Show might start an episode planning a surprise birthday party, for example, but after a series of unlikely events they'll somehow be fending off ghosts and aliens for the climax.
I'd argue that it's the other way around - the short term might have sick fights and wacky adventures - but the long term arcs are about things like growing up, finding who you are, figuring out what's actually important to you.
People have been getting (IMHO a little too) hype saying that Dandadan is the next JJK. I feel that's setting up expectations that may not be met, because I honestly think Dandadan places as much importance on the romcom and the heart-tugging bits as the battle stuff (and I love it for that). Dandadan doesn't even have power levels!
That seems unfair. Dandadan is good
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People have been getting (IMHO a little too) hype saying that Dandadan is the next JJK. I feel that's setting up expectations that may not be met, because I honestly think Dandadan places as much importance on the romcom and the heart-tugging bits as the battle stuff (and I love it for that). Dandadan doesn't even have power levels!
Fern's still pissed they tried to kill her boytoy. At least she's not trying to provoke a war with the Empire anymore.
And so we get a nun/mage duel.
The use of the fireworks was a smart move.
The fact that the nun didn't know about Fern's speed makes me wonder how detailed her dossier is...and exactly how much Denken told the Empire about what went down back home.
Frieren might not have wanted to be pulled into this fight, but...nobody fucks with her kids.
Unlike Minus or Serie, Frieren is acutely aware of her own mortality - which may very well make her a bigger threat than the shadow warriors think (and they already think she's a major one.)
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Like shit, i enjoyed JJK intially and things, i'm not even a huge Danadan fan, but... comparing them is just kinda oof and werid to me. JJK got severely elevated by a very good anime. Danadan has an already spectular manga.
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the Chainsawman anime stops quite a bit before the story really shows itself. it's a very slow burn and not really sold as what it is
dandadan dogwalks that shit tho...turbo granny low diffs sukuna
I'm a Dandadan fan, so I'm inclined to agree by default, but could you elaborate on how smarter it is?
I'm happy with the CSM anime but after seeing Look Back in theaters, I'd have loved something in that style
The Disneyland of power levels.
Unfortunately, I think after the Shibuya Incident, people are on to Gege's schtick, that he just builds up characters for him to pluck them away with little fanfare, and it doesn't get better later on.
I think Shibuya on its own was fine, and is still well regarded. It’s only after seeing the mush that happens in the rest of the series, and tracing many of the roots back to decisions Gege made during Shibuya, that the flaws in that arc really present themselves. Like, if he’d had a sudden heart attack the day after finishing the Shibuya Incident, and we never found out what came after, I think it would be considered one of the best arcs of modern shonen.
I loved Hidden Inventory, and really wasn't that into Shibuya. The fights were cool, but there was no heart behind them, just 'here's random thing that happens, to make absolute sure other thing can't go right'.
It feels like Dandadan author likes his characters and enjoys writing about them, and them growing up through interactions with each other.
On the other hand, Gege feels nothing for his characters and uses them only as tools necessary to show cool fights and convoluted rules of his battle system.
The difference in tone is staggering.
like yeah i guess the gas station explosion started comparatively slowly
It felt like a lot was going on without much actually happening. I got bored very, very quickly.
If one's invested in Denji from the jump like I was, it probably doesn't feel like it, but if one gets put off by his personality traits and don't realize it's building to something, I could see it being not their cup of tea.
The mundane first half quickly morphs into a fantastical second half. The main characters in Regular Show might start an episode planning a surprise birthday party, for example, but after a series of unlikely events they'll somehow be fending off ghosts and aliens for the climax.
There's no real depth to anything going on in JJK. It's just Powerfights: The Manga. Sometimes you get cool stuff, sometimes it's jsut what you're in the mood for, but there's not really al ot of depth other htan AND NOW THEY FIGHT go on. There's complexity, sure, but not really depth. and Gege just isnt that interested in exploring the depth he could have.
By comparison, DDD is pulling actively on both mythology and UFO lore (actually @Local H Jay you read/watched Danadan yet? I think you'd get a real kick out of it!), and doing some fairly crazy deep dives. The characters are actual characters - one of the best bits of JJK was when the main trio got to just... interact, and it yeeted that pretty violently. DDD's built it's cast up, and ubilt their interactions up.
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Honestly....it should have just stayed "done." It was amazing lightning in a bottle, didn't overstay its welcome, and was tons of fun. The sequel is just.... The same jokes, again, attempting to build and add more cast, and it just feels so soulless and pointless.
yeah its this.
i recently read a post about dandadan theorizing a character was a vampire. at first i thought "there's zero indication vampires exist in this setting, this is stupid". but then a moment later i realized "it would be way weirder if vampires didn't exist. everything exists in this setting"
I'd argue that it's the other way around - the short term might have sick fights and wacky adventures - but the long term arcs are about things like growing up, finding who you are, figuring out what's actually important to you.
That seems unfair. Dandadan is good
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Oh, so it's better than JJK?
And so we get a nun/mage duel.
The use of the fireworks was a smart move.
The fact that the nun didn't know about Fern's speed makes me wonder how detailed her dossier is...and exactly how much Denken told the Empire about what went down back home.
Frieren might not have wanted to be pulled into this fight, but...nobody fucks with her kids.
Unlike Minus or Serie, Frieren is acutely aware of her own mortality - which may very well make her a bigger threat than the shadow warriors think (and they already think she's a major one.)
Comment auto translated from Japanese "the kick digs deep into the groin, making it look like a fatal blow"
And let's just say it's shaping up to be the second biggest crashout to happen this November, good god this shit blows
What was the first? JJK ended last month.