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[Anime] of Winter 2025: Macross goes Global, Minmei not included, see HG for details

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    It's been a loooooooong time since I saw the original Ranma anime, but the remake feels pretty beat for beat.

    I don't really understand the point of a remake that tells the exact same story in the exact same way.

    Ranma is old. A new series is a way to introduce it to a new generation(s).

  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    Yes, I disagree with the thesis that remakes should always do "something new".

    If creators want to do something new, then they should do their own story, straight up.

  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    Also like, don't get me wrong I'm a nostalgia goblin and love the old aesthetic of anime from before the 2000s, but the new Urusei Yatsura and Ranma look very nice. I found the new UY also to be a little bit less insufferable with the EVERYONE IS SHOUTING as comedy.

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    I think Re:Zero is going on the back burner for a week or so. I don't have the emotional bandwidth to feel feelings or think thoughts right now.

    I'm still not mentally ready and I'm two seasons behind

    Season 2 doesn't quite hit the lowest lows of Season 1, and it is fairly hype.

    This week re zero had a small curveball in that
    Oh turns out it wasn't a case of total failure. Now Subaru has a dragon blood leg that can regenerate, one of the towers probably got retaken by the good guys.

    I'm also have a REALLY hard time keeping all the names straight at this point. Regulus has a ton of wives, many dead. So I am fully onboard with it being an aspect of his witch authority to burn through them like fuel. I know he's been around for nearly 200 years but that is a fucking lot of dead wives. Emelia is not being a damsel and is being smart and proactive, realizing she's in enemy territory and cannot just fight Regulus straight up.

    Red princess candidate is also way WAY deeper of a character than could have been imagined in S1.

    I did end up watching this week.
    The only casualty was Crusch, which was surprising.

    Priscilla's swordsmanship was absurdly well animated compared to normal.

    Subaru managing to impress the merchant with the Kyoto accent impressed me, given how much she was able to exploit him during their first meetings.

    It wasn't a super heavy episode, all things considered. Lots of chess pieces moving around the board to set up the next big plot beat.

    I'm sure the other shoe will drop eventually and Subaru will start looping again.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Even though the 4K isn't out yet, I picked up something close to it on the cheap:

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    Thanks for nothing, Harmony Gold.

    Still looks great, I think. No subtitles, though(which I think the 4k will have?), but it's region free, at least.

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    The Zentraedi dialogue is hard-subbed, I think.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    It's been a loooooooong time since I saw the original Ranma anime, but the remake feels pretty beat for beat.

    I don't really understand the point of a remake that tells the exact same story in the exact same way.

    I agree here. It rubs me the wrong way on a lot of levels, but it's also been a trend in anime for like 10 years now, so it's not exactly new. I understand it a lot more for video games where there are significant technical and usability issues to older games, but less so for shows/movies. Like, if someone made a new Star Wars, but it was just a shot for shot remake of New Hope with CGI instead of puppets/models, or a new Simpsons that was just a re-animated season 1, I can't see how that would be anything but reviled as trying to replace the original, and with characters like Happosai, there are certainly warts that I don't think anybody but shitheels would be too upset if they changed him to obsessing over... I dunno, earrings or hats instead.

    Stuff like the Duck Tales remake or Spiderverse shows that you can absolutely use older franchises with shit-tons of nostalgia bait while making your own thing and telling your own story with a ton of respect for the previous, both existing together. But I suspect that remakes, like the things that get published/adapted because they won popularity contests, get made because it's safe, and for every one genuinely autuer show, there have to be a dozen remakes and two dozen isekai.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Remakes are rarely made for the people who remember the originals.

  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Ranma is so old that making a remake is fine, even without changing the original premise. Stuff like He-Man or Transformers were all about selling toys, so changing those up to have actual stories is far more palatable.

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  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    What dozen remakes though

    Did we really get any proper remakes in last few years outside of Urusei Yatsura and Ranma? Trigun was a full reboot.

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Everyone remembers Muteking, right?

    Right?

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  • BadablackBadablack Registered User regular
    JJK was just a remake of Naruto

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    What dozen remakes though

    Did we really get any proper remakes in last few years outside of Urusei Yatsura and Ranma? Trigun was a full reboot.

    Rurouni Kenshin and Spice and Wolf are both in the last year. Go back further and there's Fruits Basket, Sailor Moon, Dororo, HxH, Kanon, Yamato 2199, etc etc.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Well, that list becomes a lot narrower if you consider them as 'good' remakes.

    Personally, I love seeing that Sailor Moon Crystal is worse than dead, it's forgotten. Merch has almost universally shifted to focus on the classic series, and the world is better for it.

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  • KayuraKayura Registered User regular
    In the case of Ranma, a remake seems valuable to me because a.) it didn't even get close to the manga ending originally and b.) the later eps of that original series were Not Great, animation-wise. So at least the second of those issues can be addressed here.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    FCD wrote: »
    In the case of Ranma, a remake seems valuable to me because a.) it didn't even get close to the manga ending originally and b.) the later eps of that original series were Not Great, animation-wise. So at least the second of those issues can be addressed here.

    To be fair about the manga,
    you could say it doesn't have an ending either. heyo

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  • KayuraKayura Registered User regular
    True, though I would still like to see some of the characters from later chapters, like Herb and Saffron.

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    I do wish they had adapted the rest of Trigun's manga with the original Nightow designs before doing the offshoot reboot.

    No shame on the reboot existing, it's just not what I was looking for yet.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    What dozen remakes though

    Did we really get any proper remakes in last few years outside of Urusei Yatsura and Ranma? Trigun was a full reboot.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    That's not a remake of the original tv show. Instead it is adapting the original novels more faithfully.

    More faithful attempts at adaptions after the first one makes anime only changes have happened for decades.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    That's not a remake of the original tv show. Instead it is adapting the original novels more faithfully.

    More faithful attempts at adaptions after the first one makes anime only changes have happened for decades.

    So are you saying the new Ranma and UY are remakes of the original TV shows, not new adaptations of the manga?

  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    That's not a remake of the original tv show. Instead it is adapting the original novels more faithfully.

    More faithful attempts at adaptions after the first one makes anime only changes have happened for decades.

    So are you saying the new Ranma and UY are remakes of the original TV shows, not new adaptations of the manga?

    Ranma definitely follows the manga and not the original anime.

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  • Fig-DFig-D SoCalRegistered User regular
    I have only vague memories of watching the first Ranma 1/2 dubbed in Spanish as a wee little Fig, but the new show is moving at a pace that aged anime curmudgeon me can appreciate. They remade Ranma 1/2 for me, personally, so I can appreciate the awkward relationship hijinks that missed me as a child. You can watch it too, I guess.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited November 2024
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    That's not a remake of the original tv show. Instead it is adapting the original novels more faithfully.

    More faithful attempts at adaptions after the first one makes anime only changes have happened for decades.

    So are you saying the new Ranma and UY are remakes of the original TV shows, not new adaptations of the manga?

    Haven't watched either, can only comment on what I know. I'm also not invested in this really I'm just talking about the explicit reason why DNT was made, which the creators have come out and said.

    This isn't really a new phenomenon (making a show again) and it's kinda weird that it's being talked about as if it suddenly popped up out of nowhere recently.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    That's not a remake of the original tv show. Instead it is adapting the original novels more faithfully.

    More faithful attempts at adaptions after the first one makes anime only changes have happened for decades.

    So are you saying the new Ranma and UY are remakes of the original TV shows, not new adaptations of the manga?

    Haven't watched either, can only comment on what I know. I'm also not invested in this really I'm just talking about the explicit reason why DNT was made, which the creators have come out and said.

    This isn't really a new phenomenon (making a show again) and it's kinda weird that it's being talked about as if it suddenly popped up out of nowhere recently.

    Okay well your post read as though you were correcting me on something.

  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    What the hell, I actually didn't know the Kenshin remake came out last year and is in S2 now. Does this thing have zero marketing?

  • localhjaylocalhjay Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    What the hell, I actually didn't know the Kenshin remake came out last year and is in S2 now. Does this thing have zero marketing?

    Yeah Bec the guy who made it is a pedo

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    What the hell, I actually didn't know the Kenshin remake came out last year and is in S2 now. Does this thing have zero marketing?

    It does, but the sort of people you probably talk about anime with are ignoring it because *looks at mangaka*

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    What the hell, I actually didn't know the Kenshin remake came out last year and is in S2 now. Does this thing have zero marketing?

    It has anti-marketing, because the Kenshin author was revealed to be a pedophile. Kept me from watching, or reading the sequel series set in Hokkaido.

  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited November 2024
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    That's not a remake of the original tv show. Instead it is adapting the original novels more faithfully.

    More faithful attempts at adaptions after the first one makes anime only changes have happened for decades.

    So are you saying the new Ranma and UY are remakes of the original TV shows, not new adaptations of the manga?

    Haven't watched either, can only comment on what I know. I'm also not invested in this really I'm just talking about the explicit reason why DNT was made, which the creators have come out and said.

    This isn't really a new phenomenon (making a show again) and it's kinda weird that it's being talked about as if it suddenly popped up out of nowhere recently.

    Okay well your post read as though you were correcting me on something.

    Your post was just the latest and also was talking about a show I know about. It was more of a side comment really.

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  • NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    That's not a remake of the original tv show. Instead it is adapting the original novels more faithfully.

    More faithful attempts at adaptions after the first one makes anime only changes have happened for decades.

    That's a decent point, actually. For instance, I don't know that I'd consider the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings movies to be "remakes".

    ...Or the David Productions JJBA Stardust Crusaders, for that matter.

  • CantideCantide Registered User regular
    I think of anime adaptations as more like remasters than remakes, if that makes sense. Generally the anime only deviates from the manga when it has to, e.g. is in danger of catching up, and V2 anime like Ranma 2024, DBZ Kai, FMA Brotherhood, etc. are focused on creating a product that is more like the original manga, not less.

  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    I'll take remakes of good shows instead of new isekai shows any day.

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    Counts on if it's a good remake or not, cause I think I'd take a new but not terrible isekai over something like Sailor Moon Crystal

  • djmdjm Registered User regular
    Latest One Piece, is this the first time we've had a "previously on One Piece" reminder of who someone is?
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    Normally it feels like characters just show up and we're meant to recognise them, no matter how many hundreds of chapters it's been since we last saw them, so it was nice to have a bit of help for once -- I just don't remember this ever happening before.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Latest One Piece, is this the first time we've had a "previously on One Piece" reminder of who someone is?
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    Normally it feels like characters just show up and we're meant to recognise them, no matter how many hundreds of chapters it's been since we last saw them, so it was nice to have a bit of help for once -- I just don't remember this ever happening before.

    No, it happened ALL THE TIME during the Revelry arc. Because people were making their first non-art page appearances in 500 chapters

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    Aw, just found out that You and I Are Polar Opposites is ending in less than two weeks.

    Manga continuing past high school challenge: Impossible

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2024
    Oshi no Ko ended with chapter 166 today (ENDING SPOILERS):
    *spits* Another terrible ending from Akasaka Aka. Dude just needs to commit to a ~2000 chapter series like KochiKame that never ends.

    I guess it's about living with your grief, putting on a brave face, and turning your pain into illuminating the darkness in other's lives, when your own life has no hope of escaping that same darkness.

    I am honestly in no fucking mood for such a message given current events and *gestures broadly at everything*

    There were a bunch of banger arcs, only to see it end as a fart in the wind. Nobody wins!

    E: Someone on Reddit encapsulated my feelings pretty well:
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    I've made this comparison before and it feels even more apt now; this ending is like the Bad End one gets after picking the wrong choice in a visual novel.

    It's got it all; a drawn-out gratuitously painful death for the MC (complete with him taking a moment to openly criticize the wisdom of his final choice, as if he's hinting to players what to do differently on the next playthrough! All we're missing is the Taiga Dojo) followed by one chapter of misery porn and a final chapter speedrunning through (some of) the remaining loose ends in the most perfunctory way possible.

    When I read this I don't feel like I'm watching the culmination of a four-year journey. I don't feel like I've watched the final beat of an unfolding tragedy. I feel like I need to go through my previous save files to find the dialogue choice that lets me see the Good Ending.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Latest One Piece, is this the first time we've had a "previously on One Piece" reminder of who someone is?
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    Normally it feels like characters just show up and we're meant to recognise them, no matter how many hundreds of chapters it's been since we last saw them, so it was nice to have a bit of help for once -- I just don't remember this ever happening before.

    No, it happened ALL THE TIME during the Revelry arc. Because people were making their first non-art page appearances in 500 chapters

    Think Dorry and Brogy also got one.

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    It seems like his editor is not doing his job. I'm not sure which way but given they're 0 for 2 here I'm gonna say it's bad calls regardless

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