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2024 Challenge Coin Returns!

Dave247Dave247 Melbourne, AustraliaRegistered User regular
edited July 12 in PAX Australia
Voting is now open! Vote your your favourite design to be minted into a coin!
https://forms.gle/TdMbKrN9T9z2xBai9


It's been a bit of a will I won't I behind the scenes if I would pick up the mantle of making a challenge coin for Aus, not helped by the added pressure how I would be the first show since after covid to do so and as my first time as a newcomer. But I made a plan (which is listed below) and have started the first step of that plan, so I guess you can say I am committed now.
Yes this is all very early to start preparing, but I want to leave myself more than enough time to get everything done as I know I would struggle if put under the wire to rush and get it done on top of my other life commitments.

So the way this is all going to work, is that I have three possible and potential ideas that could be made into a coin for the year, and will be paying an artist friend Dokucchito create a rendition of each (It's totally not an excuse to throw money at them I swear). Once they are all competed, as per past years there will be a vote for people to choose which is their favourite and the winner will ultimately be the one that is minted into a coin. I didn't feel comfortable in my own photoshop abilities to go at it alone, and the added benefit of using an art for the early stages is being able to create practically anything you could want.

My idea is to have a theme of sorts that the coin design follows, and what better theme than whatever the current year’s show theme is! I don;t believe that has been done before either with any of the past coins.
However, this year with the theme being PAX anniversary made it a little tricky to work with, as unlike 80s VHS or Space in the past two years, there isn't an obvious design to follow. That was until I came to the realisation that it's basically just a throwback theme, which also suits how this will be restart of challenge coins, as there's a good deal of history there with past coins that can be used for it. So without further ado...

Design 1
Starting off from the very beginning. I dug deep and found a image of the very first PAX West Challenge coin, that was luckily backed up on the wayback machine from the PAX wiki, and wanted to do a homage to that, but in a Aus style.
  • First up, obviously the Space Needle doesn't work for Aus, so instead it will be a skyline of Melbourne, looking across the river at the CBD buildings as that is arguably the most iconic "Melbourne" shot we have.
  • For the opposite side, as a good 10 years have passed since this coin was minted, the 3DS will be updated to a Switch console instead, in the same hand held up pose.
  • And around the side, the coin will obviously say Aus and Melbourne, and not Prime as that would be silly. Along with using NULLUS ANXIETAS as the Latin phase as the previous Aus coins all have.
Completed design:
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Design 2
Keeping with the theme but moving forward in time a few years, I thought to look back on the first Aus challenge coin from 2015. But this one has proved more challenging, as like with the first design, I would like to change some things so it not to just be a reprint of the same coin as that would be boring.
For the tram side, perhaps the pollywoodise boat witht he MCEC wording above it? That's the only thing I can think of that would be different while still remaining in the same vein.
That just leaves the other side, and... as I was typing this, I just had the perfect idea for it. @fishfishmonkeyhat tells me the duck is from an iconic Aussie NES game, so keeping with the iconic Aussie animal game, there's only one that I can think of which I'm sure you know what it is too. And that is the duck from Untitled Goose game. Or for our not copyrighted purposes, just a regular goose. But with those three lines next to his head, I bet everyone will be able to hear that annoying honk just from looking at the picture.
As for the tag line, I suppose there is "Peace was never an option" but that would require changing the pose for the goose to be holding a knife, though I suppose there is also the original pose of standing on an axe in a stump that could be used too.

The completed design had some changes from the inital idea, due to the boat being so, well, big, we decided not to include the MCEC sign as the fear is it would have been too messy with too much going on. I hope you all still like the finished look though!

Completed design:
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Lastly for posterity, here is a link that has images of every single past PAX challenge coin.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210119183214/wiki.paxcommunity.net/paxwiki/Challenge_Coin

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    fishfishmonkeyhatfishfishmonkeyhat Freelance Pin Man Newcastle, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    I fully support handing this over to @Dave247 fwiw and will help where I can.

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    qazerboiqazerboi Registered User regular
    New coins? I'm in for this YAY!
    Bin chicken? With VR goggles? OK i'm just being silly.

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    PDP11PDP11 Registered User regular
    edited May 28
    A few thoughts on coins:
    1. The Wayback Machine does not show every PAX Australia Challenge Coin as it is missing two limited release coins.
      • In 2017 there was a 5 Year Anniversary coin for Enforcers. For the third coin I would suggest another Enforcer coin. Catch is the additional workload if there are two series (General Public plus Enforcer coins) to distribute, etc. If you do produce an Enforcer coin I would suggest it follows a similar design/layout as the existing coin. These coins were only produced as a colour coin and there was no bronze look variant.
      • The other limited release coin was just a minor variant and can be ignored.
    2. Flinder Street Station clocks featured one year, maybe time for another train related issue.
      • Puffing Billy (possibly on the Trestle bridge, or just the steam engine).
      • Tait Electric train (Red Rattler), see Steamrail Victoria website https://steamrail.com.au/about
      • One of Steamrail Victoria's steam, diesel or electric engines. They are a volunteer group so they may be able to provide some suitable images, etc.
      • Images of the underground either current or those under construction
    3. Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG). Chance of a copyright issue with this one.
    4. Beach/ocean related theme
      • Philip Island penguins
      • Brighton Bathing Boxes
      • A beach scene
      • Station or St Kilda Piers
      • Surfing related scene
    5. Victoria Market
    6. Melbourne or Monash University e.g. the Ming Wing (otherwise known as the Menzies Building)
    7. The Australian Synchrotron (Melbourne)
    8. Board game, Minatures, or RPG/LARP related scene

    I'm not really in favour of the basic Melbourne skyline as that could represent any other city in the world with 'box' like skyscrapers. I would suggest replacing the skyline with an individual building that is iconic to Melbourne. Previous years it has been Jeff's Shed, etc. The first PAX Aus was held at the Melbourne Showgrounds and that maybe more suitable if you wish to show the beginnings of the Melbourne show.

    fishfishmonkeyhat should have a complete set of the PAX Australia coins. Worst comes to the worst I could attempt to take some photos of the set of PAX Aus coins. Catch is I don't normally read this forum.

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    Rachelguy72Rachelguy72 TX, USARegistered User new member
    Would love to get in on this!

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    RavendRavend Registered User regular
    edited May 28
    Hurry up and take my money....

    Some (in jest in part) suggestions

    Truck stuck under a bridge (a very common event just down from jeff's shed)

    The Bourke St Clam Purse (https://www.timeout.com/melbourne/art/the-public-purse) - iconic image know by most that go to Melbourne.

    Polly Woodside Ship (right next to Jeff's Shed) - has been used by vendors before in PAX tie-in's. Easy to make a Pirate themed coin - https://www.nationaltrust.org.au/places/polly-woodside/

    PAXAUS 2024 where the 2024 is upside down (or the AUS part of the PAX is..), or the globe, where Southern hemisphere is on top (ie Australia) :) - or a play on the distance - "Australia - a short trip if you can Teleport"

    Bin Chicken vs Drop Bear - personally think that would make a cool look, given our previous Drop Bear. - could even one per side - with text along the rim saying "Pick a Side/Team" or "Who will win" (with PAXAUS text on the other side etc.

    Something along the lines of ARSE - because sticking a word like that on a coin is so Australia ( https://spaceaustralia.com.au/ ) - Although "Bugger" would work well too :) EDIT: or even similar to my user image from a suggestion a few years ago.

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    SKOoOTASKOoOTA Ascot Vale, Australia.Registered User regular
    @Ravend Love the truck stuck under the Montague Street Bridge suggestion, that's a real niche Iconic Melbourne reference right there.

    Another Iconic Melbourne sculpture, Vault, the yellow peril.

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    I also thought about Atari HQ in Oakleigh and the Atari House in Albert Park, some classic 80's Melbourne gaming history.

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    Former Atari HQ pays homage to one of Atari’s most popular videogames, Space Invaders.


    Former Atari House, Queens Road, Melbourne
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    Dave247Dave247 Melbourne, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited May 28
    Hello everyone and thanks for your input! I'm loving what I am reading and they will all be very helpful for both the third and second design, as I kinda would like to make some more changes to it so one side is not just the same thing again. Hmm... replacing the tram with the pollywoodise boat and still having the MCEC name above it could work. I'll give it some more thought in case I come up with anything else before passing it over to the artist.

    You're all also just in time to see the completed first design! I hope you all like it as much as I do. Dokucchi always manages to blow me away with the work she does.
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    So with that all done it will be onto the second design now. I'll only wait a day or so before committing to an idea with the artist, as I don't want to wait too long as I run the risk of forgetting about it.

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    Dave247Dave247 Melbourne, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    PDP11 wrote: »
    A few thoughts on coins:
    1. The Wayback Machine does not show every PAX Australia Challenge Coin as it is missing two limited release coins.
      • In 2017 there was a 5 Year Anniversary coin for Enforcers. For the third coin I would suggest another Enforcer coin. Catch is the additional workload if there are two series (General Public plus Enforcer coins) to distribute, etc. If you do produce an Enforcer coin I would suggest it follows a similar design/layout as the existing coin. These coins were only produced as a colour coin and there was no bronze look variant.
    I'll have a look to see what I can find about the 2017 coin. My only concern would be how many Enforcers would go for it, but if it's only some minor changes then it wouldn't be that much extra hassle.

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    Uncle KakaUncle Kaka Registered User regular
    To be brutally honest, I am just happy this is happening. Showed the spoiler design to the missus and she squealed in delight.
    Is there an intent to do a bronze only and a colour version? IF doing colour, I would suggest doing the full laquer of the 17/18 coins

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    PDP11PDP11 Registered User regular
    edited May 30
    The 5 Year Anniversary Enforcer coin was a totally different design to any other PAX coin. Easiest change would be to get the old design drawings updated with just the event count changed for 2024. I do have a complete set of every PAX Aus coins released but I don't know the forum photo limits here. I'll have to hunt for the gear for my new PC to take the coin photos, don't hold your breath waiting for the photos. If I get my act together I might post the coin photos to Wikimedia.

    I would also support the full laquer finish. Unfortunately photos are not going to show the improvement the full laquer treatment brings to the coins.

    Regarding the Atari buildings. Of the two photos the only one to consider is the Oakleigh 'flying saucer' building.

    Regarding the in jest suggestions. I like the idea in the form of a coat of arms with a Drop Bear against a Fighting Kangeroo (with Boxing Gloves). Instead of text how about a crocodile positioned around the bottom edge. Unwritten is what other country eats its coat of arms (emu and kangeroo).

    If you really want to go back into Melbourne's gaming convention history, PAX Australia was preceeded by Phantastacon (starting 1981) and Arcanacon (Starting 1983). Google for details.

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    simmosimmo Melbourne AustraliaRegistered User new member
    I've always missed the coin discussion. I'm so excited to see it happening!
    I'm always a fan of any antique finish for challenge coins.
    Enamel can be tricky for some suppliers, but luckily you can often do a QA pass before signing off on a full run.

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    Dark KingDark King Registered User regular
    I've long favoured using the Royal Exhibition Building for the challenge coin.

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    Dave247Dave247 Melbourne, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Alright I've locked in the second design with the artist, will let you all know of the result soon enough.

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    Dave247Dave247 Melbourne, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Second coin design is done! Some changes were made to the original idea, due to the boat being so, well, big, we decided not to include the MCEC sign as the fear is it would have been too messy with too much going on. I hope you all still like the finished look though! I personally think Dokucchi really outdid herself with the boat.
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    I'll take a few days to think over what the third design should be, based on what people have suggested here in the thread, and will give an update when I've locked in it.

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    zerzhulzerzhul Registered User, Moderator mod
    ooOOOooo these are so pretty!

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    Dave247Dave247 Melbourne, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Uncle Kaka wrote: »
    To be brutally honest, I am just happy this is happening. Showed the spoiler design to the missus and she squealed in delight.
    Is there an intent to do a bronze only and a colour version? IF doing colour, I would suggest doing the full laquer of the 17/18 coins
    Sorry for the delay in responding to this. I've just been focused on getting one thing at a time so to not overload my brain.

    Yes both options will be available. The designs are in colour as they can can simply be stripped away as needed when passed over to the company. As for the company, I am set on using KidderCorp which is the same that fishfishmonkeyhat made use of as they offer a lot of benefits where I don't see a reason to change.

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    Dave247Dave247 Melbourne, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Just letting everyone know that the third design has been locked in. It took some brainstorming having to come up with something entirely on my own, but I eventually landed on one side being the Royal Exhibition Building, and the other a bin chicken/ibis dressed as Link, with some minor modifications to some of the symbols so Nintendo doesn't sue me. WIll post again with the finished result.

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    Dave247Dave247 Melbourne, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    So I have a bit of bad news, the artist had some personal things come up and isn't able to complete the third design, so rather then try to find someone else, I've decided to just scrap the third design and just keep to the two that have already been done. This is also because when I first started all this, I had this idea of that it was important to have a vote during the community consultation process, but later when I started, I looked back over the old threads and I couldn't find any reference of such a thing being done, and @fishfishmonkeyhat couldn't remember anything like that being done either, so I have no idea where I got this idea from. I think I might have ended up making it more complicated for myself unnecessarily. It was too late to change anything though by that point as I had already committed to it. 😅

    So instead we'll just move on to the voting process. I've created a simple Google form where you can pick between one or the other design for which you would prefer to see minted into a coin. I haven't decided exactly how long to keep the form open for as we are still running ahead of schedule. It will be for a few weeks at least. I'll give warning when I'm going to close responses. In the meantime i'll reach out to Kiddercorp with a few questions I want to ask them.

    Here's the link to the form, which I will also include in the first post. Feel free to share the link around to whoever, even to people who aren't able or interested in purchasing a coin themselves can still get involved if they want to.
    https://forms.gle/TdMbKrN9T9z2xBai9

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