GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
edited August 29
So far I don't hate this, it feels like one of the most Star Wars ass Star Wars games we've seen in a while...
...but insta-fail stealth garbage in 2024 can go jump off a cliff. This mechanic was tired when it was common, it's extra tired now. Especially when the game puts an emphasis on it.
The facial animations are bad...like Mass Effect Andromeda bad, but I can look past that. The parts of the game where I am just playing Hannah Solo shifty, but good hearted, scoundrel are great and very fun.
The patch hit on Tuesday, the early access day. Players who got the game earlier than that needed to restart.
I started playing on Tuesday with the day one patch and I've already passed the blocking issue.
The "news" about the patch seems like a bunch of nothing to me.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
That's where we are as an industry. People want to be mad about things, so every news item is blown up. To be fair some of the these companies deserve the skepticism, but equally people's ability to parse nuance seems worse than ever.
I, for one, am having a great time with it. It probably helps that I enjoy stealth gameplay. So far (about 4 hours in) I think it has a lot of cool systems, though I'm sure the Ubisoft-gameplay loop will make certain systems lose their luster the more I play.
The game drips with Star Wars atmosphere - there have been a ton of random environmental events (e.g., stormtroopers shaking down a merchant) and setpieces that are very immersive, IMO. And Kay looks perfectly fine. I'd even say she's pretty good-looking (don't understand that toxic criticism at all), it's just her hair that's a bit of a mess, but that fits the character (and looks nicely 70s period). My personal review score so far would be around an 85. Well worth a month of Ubisoft+.
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
I've played the first three hours and it really scratches a lot of itches. I also like that the game isn't pure 100% unadulterated map icon vomit, which is something I largely expect from a Ubisoft game. The gameplay mechanics are fairly solid, with some light uncharted like platforming mixed in with some cover based shooting. The stealth is a little janky, but I somewhat expect that unless it's from one of the masters from the genre but you have a surprising number of tools for it and it gives you more as you progress. The outdoor areas are really impressive and I love how greasy and slimy the various cities feel - as is appropriate. Also how large these cities are, they don't feel like your usual open world truck stop with a handful of buildings but have quite a lot going on.
I am largely working with the Crimson Dawn to begin with mostly for shitting on the Pikes, because they are all a bunch of fishy assholes and if there is one thing I know about fish it's that I don't drink water anymore as they fuck in it.
My one question though: What monster put interact on R3????
People are chomping at the bit for this to be a flop, because Star Wars fans are extremely weird people now.
There is likely some of this but I think it dilutes legit criticism. I've been watching videos because I have interest in this game. I have seen enemies just letting the protagonist just shoot them in the head over and over again, a couple people falling through the world, and stealthing right in front of enemies like you are invisible.
This is all technical and hopefully it will be fixed by the time I buy it after a price drop or two. It seems a little janky but I played Elex and enjoyed it so meh.
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
edited August 29
A lot of that is already fixed in the day 1 patch.
Most notable was the bug where enemies on speedbikes couldn't do anything other than vaguely drive in your direction and then stop to do nothing in particular. Having read/seen the same reviews, I got a bit caught out.
I've played the first three hours and it really scratches a lot of itches. I also like that the game isn't pure 100% unadulterated map icon vomit, which is something I largely expect from a Ubisoft game. The gameplay mechanics are fairly solid, with some light uncharted like platforming mixed in with some cover based shooting. The stealth is a little janky, but I somewhat expect that unless it's from one of the masters from the genre but you have a surprising number of tools for it and it gives you more as you progress. The outdoor areas are really impressive and I love how greasy and slimy the various cities feel - as is appropriate. Also how large these cities are, they don't feel like your usual open world truck stop with a handful of buildings but have quite a lot going on.
I am largely working with the Crimson Dawn to begin with mostly for shitting on the Pikes, because they are all a bunch of fishy assholes and if there is one thing I know about fish it's that I don't drink water anymore as they fuck in it.
My one question though: What monster put interact on R3????
Yeah, I've waffled a bit on whether to play with gamepad or keyboard+mouse (where interact is E) because of that. And totally agree with your other points!
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
Thank goodness I have a controller that has shoulder buttons I use for L3 and R3!
Yeahhh Sabacc is great. I usually don't care for minigames at all, but I really like this. It's similar in presentation to poker in the Red Dead games, in that every single thing is animated, modeled, textured, and voiced, so it looks completely convincing.
As mentioned, you can cheat. There are actually 3 cheating methods, but I only have the one.
There is also a very slight collection/deck building angle. You don't modify the cards in the deck, but rather a set of 3 "shift tokens" you choose before each game. You can use each token once per game, only on your turn, and they all have different effects. From a simple "draw free this turn" to "the specified opponent must discard 2 chips" to more specific but rewarding effects. There's a whole set to collect. You can buy them at shops, get them as a one-time reward from certain Sabacc tables, and probably many other ways.
There are special tables to find, gambling dens to sneak your way into, and unique opponents.
I've already cleared out the first planet, and I'm excited to play more on other planets.
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
It's well worth noting there is a hilarious trophy in game for playing Sabacc against a specific opponent:
Lando and you have to beat him by cheating while you're at it
People are chomping at the bit for this to be a flop, because Star Wars fans are extremely weird people now.
It’s also people who really hate Ubisoft for some of their business practices. They’re not my favorite company, but they’re competent at making games. I’m just really glad we’ve got a new Star Wars game. EA has been squatting the IP, barely doing anything with it for such a long time!
People are chomping at the bit for this to be a flop, because Star Wars fans are extremely weird people now.
It’s also people who really hate Ubisoft for some of their business practices. They’re not my favorite company, but they’re competent at making games. I’m just really glad we’ve got a new Star Wars game. EA has been squatting the IP, barely doing anything with it for such a long time!
'Business practices' is a strange way to say multiple sexual harassment cases they tried to bury.
People are chomping at the bit for this to be a flop, because Star Wars fans are extremely weird people now.
It’s also people who really hate Ubisoft for some of their business practices. They’re not my favorite company, but they’re competent at making games. I’m just really glad we’ve got a new Star Wars game. EA has been squatting the IP, barely doing anything with it for such a long time!
'Business practices' is a strange way to say multiple sexual harassment cases they tried to bury.
yea this is why I wont be picking up this game (that and Warframe has its hooks deep into me .. again) EA needed to not be the sole dev/publisher for Star Wars games.. I am still pissed at them (for many many things... and I dont buy their games anymore either) Star Wars:Squadrons. Was it too hard to turn on bots for your team if you didnt have a full squad of 5.
People are chomping at the bit for this to be a flop, because Star Wars fans are extremely weird people now.
It’s also people who really hate Ubisoft for some of their business practices. They’re not my favorite company, but they’re competent at making games. I’m just really glad we’ve got a new Star Wars game. EA has been squatting the IP, barely doing anything with it for such a long time!
'Business practices' is a strange way to say multiple sexual harassment cases they tried to bury.
I was talking about charging extra for multiple versions of their games and their cookie cutter approach to open world gaming. I didn’t say anything about the culture of sexual harassment and abuse fostered by their shitty leadership.
Open world game AI is, I suspect, never going to be good. But the AI of NPCs on vehicles in general is notably bad. I've often caused multi vehicle pileups because they don't want to path around my parked speeder.
I don't quite get how David Jaffe missed how to use Nix in the stealth sections. You have to use Nix at the very beginning and the game brings it up.
I am begining to wonder if he is an idiot.
If you have Disney+, you get some free tail wrappings for Nix. It makes his tail glow.
Wild, because Nix is probably the strongest stealth tool in her arsenal for much of the game. Refusing to engage with him would make stealth significantly harder than it needs to be.
Open world game AI is, I suspect, never going to be good. But the AI of NPCs on vehicles in general is notably bad. I've often caused multi vehicle pileups because they don't want to path around my parked speeder.
I don't quite get how David Jaffe missed how to use Nix in the stealth sections. You have to use Nix at the very beginning and the game brings it up.
I am begining to wonder if he is an idiot.
If you have Disney+, you get some free tail wrappings for Nix. It makes his tail glow.
Wild, because Nix is probably the strongest stealth tool in her arsenal for much of the game. Refusing to engage with him would make stealth significantly harder than it needs to be.
Yeah. He posted a review about how the game is awful because of the stealth. Then he quickly took it down and complained about how the game didn't make it obvious. It does.
People are chomping at the bit for this to be a flop, because Star Wars fans are extremely weird people now.
I was telling some friends a few weeks ago that if PlayStation made this game? Preorder. EA? Microsoft? Bethesda? Preorder.
But Ubisoft? ...eh. They make a lotta open world games, but they don't make 'em fun. I haven't loved one since Black Flag or Far Cry 3.
But Kotaku's review I figured fuck it, I've avoided buying Ubigames for a half decade, I'll give 'em a shot.
And right after I'd completed a quest where - well, on my way to the quest I went through a market and I leaned on the bar of a speakeasy and overheard a password. Then I talked to all the merchants just to meet 'em, and paid off some stormtroopers that were hassling a bacta seller.
The quest would take me into hostile territory, so I went down a back alley nearby and there was another merchant selling stuff for the Crimson Dawn, who I'm in good with, but only to people who knew the password I just learned. Then I pushed through a little gap behind his store into the hostile zone. I snuck past the Pykes and into a storage room holding the blaster part I needed, and there was also a hot tip - a fix was in on the next fathier race - but whatever, I report my success and start to head back to my ship.
As I trot down a street I've been up before, I remember - there's a gambling den just here. I remember the fix, and lay down the biggest be I can. A trophy pops - win your first fixed fathier race - and fuck.
I think I love a Ubisoft game. Also I love it when a guard sees you and you go "behind you!" and then hit 'em with a stun shot and you gain experience towards the next tier of the Bartender Expert's Fast-Talk ability.
And then I hop on my speeder and jet off across the rolling plains.
Fuck.
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...but insta-fail stealth garbage in 2024 can go jump off a cliff. This mechanic was tired when it was common, it's extra tired now. Especially when the game puts an emphasis on it.
The facial animations are bad...like Mass Effect Andromeda bad, but I can look past that. The parts of the game where I am just playing Hannah Solo shifty, but good hearted, scoundrel are great and very fun.
It kind of blew up in Ubisoft's face.
They botched the early access because the new patch requires PS5 players to start over.
I started playing on Tuesday with the day one patch and I've already passed the blocking issue.
The "news" about the patch seems like a bunch of nothing to me.
The game drips with Star Wars atmosphere - there have been a ton of random environmental events (e.g., stormtroopers shaking down a merchant) and setpieces that are very immersive, IMO. And Kay looks perfectly fine. I'd even say she's pretty good-looking (don't understand that toxic criticism at all), it's just her hair that's a bit of a mess, but that fits the character (and looks nicely 70s period). My personal review score so far would be around an 85. Well worth a month of Ubisoft+.
I am largely working with the Crimson Dawn to begin with mostly for shitting on the Pikes, because they are all a bunch of fishy assholes and if there is one thing I know about fish it's that I don't drink water anymore as they fuck in it.
My one question though: What monster put interact on R3????
There is likely some of this but I think it dilutes legit criticism. I've been watching videos because I have interest in this game. I have seen enemies just letting the protagonist just shoot them in the head over and over again, a couple people falling through the world, and stealthing right in front of enemies like you are invisible.
This is all technical and hopefully it will be fixed by the time I buy it after a price drop or two. It seems a little janky but I played Elex and enjoyed it so meh.
Most notable was the bug where enemies on speedbikes couldn't do anything other than vaguely drive in your direction and then stop to do nothing in particular. Having read/seen the same reviews, I got a bit caught out.
One question: how’s the sabacc gameplay? Is it fun? Deep? Or is it dumb and boring?
And you can cheat with your cat!
As mentioned, you can cheat. There are actually 3 cheating methods, but I only have the one.
There is also a very slight collection/deck building angle. You don't modify the cards in the deck, but rather a set of 3 "shift tokens" you choose before each game. You can use each token once per game, only on your turn, and they all have different effects. From a simple "draw free this turn" to "the specified opponent must discard 2 chips" to more specific but rewarding effects. There's a whole set to collect. You can buy them at shops, get them as a one-time reward from certain Sabacc tables, and probably many other ways.
There are special tables to find, gambling dens to sneak your way into, and unique opponents.
I've already cleared out the first planet, and I'm excited to play more on other planets.
'Business practices' is a strange way to say multiple sexual harassment cases they tried to bury.
yea this is why I wont be picking up this game (that and Warframe has its hooks deep into me .. again) EA needed to not be the sole dev/publisher for Star Wars games.. I am still pissed at them (for many many things... and I dont buy their games anymore either) Star Wars:Squadrons. Was it too hard to turn on bots for your team if you didnt have a full squad of 5.
Edt: Ok. It looks like I have to pay attention to light to get the beat. Listening to the rythum is not doing it.
I am confused on how to slice terminals. I will look it up.
I am begining to wonder if he is an idiot.
If you have Disney+, you get some free tail wrappings for Nix. It makes his tail glow.
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Wild, because Nix is probably the strongest stealth tool in her arsenal for much of the game. Refusing to engage with him would make stealth significantly harder than it needs to be.
Yeah. He posted a review about how the game is awful because of the stealth. Then he quickly took it down and complained about how the game didn't make it obvious. It does.
Probably just a typo of clip, as in video clip
Yeah. It was. I thought people would have realized it when I posted the video clip.
This is Star Wars, though, where we've had Luuke Skywalker
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It took until this for me to notice there was a typo. I was confused about how people here could possibly not understand what a "clip" is.
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That definitely doesn't seem to happen.
He's not the only one I've read/seen talking about AI problems but the released game with recent patch seems to work.
I was telling some friends a few weeks ago that if PlayStation made this game? Preorder. EA? Microsoft? Bethesda? Preorder.
But Ubisoft? ...eh. They make a lotta open world games, but they don't make 'em fun. I haven't loved one since Black Flag or Far Cry 3.
But Kotaku's review I figured fuck it, I've avoided buying Ubigames for a half decade, I'll give 'em a shot.
And right after I'd completed a quest where - well, on my way to the quest I went through a market and I leaned on the bar of a speakeasy and overheard a password. Then I talked to all the merchants just to meet 'em, and paid off some stormtroopers that were hassling a bacta seller.
The quest would take me into hostile territory, so I went down a back alley nearby and there was another merchant selling stuff for the Crimson Dawn, who I'm in good with, but only to people who knew the password I just learned. Then I pushed through a little gap behind his store into the hostile zone. I snuck past the Pykes and into a storage room holding the blaster part I needed, and there was also a hot tip - a fix was in on the next fathier race - but whatever, I report my success and start to head back to my ship.
As I trot down a street I've been up before, I remember - there's a gambling den just here. I remember the fix, and lay down the biggest be I can. A trophy pops - win your first fixed fathier race - and fuck.
I think I love a Ubisoft game. Also I love it when a guard sees you and you go "behind you!" and then hit 'em with a stun shot and you gain experience towards the next tier of the Bartender Expert's Fast-Talk ability.
And then I hop on my speeder and jet off across the rolling plains.
Fuck.
Yeah. I am wondering if this was a pre-patch or early build thing. Either that or someone messed with the game settings.