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  • DabbleDabble It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    I grew up in an evangelical cult, so my view on religion tends to be fairly poor.

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  • GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    I think it's usually called the Heavenly Host.

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  • NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    Yes I find it wierd. Thing is, it ain't the Jesus part, it's the being super wierd into a thing so much that they have to bring it up/display it all the time. Jesus, sports, politics, pop musicians, anything. It's fine and good to be super into things, I could tell you quite about about Venus flytraps and Bigfoot and alien abductions but none of that is my identity. My identity is how I treat people in my life.

    Ultimately this comes down to my philosophy that people in general will be who they are and do what they are going to do and religion is factored post hoc. The church folks helping the homeless? Odds are they'd still do that, church or no church.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    I mean the people you're surrounded by and the communities you're a part of are absolutely going to have some amount of influence on you, who you become, who you want to become, all of that

    obviously there are folks out there who want to do evil and use religion as a justification, but the religious or other community groups you're part of affect you just as much as any other cultural factor

    like I'm not entirely convinced the church folks helping the homeless would necessarily think to do that, or wouldn't necessarily do it on the organized scale they do, if they didn't consider it a core tenet of their religious community. just like there are plenty of "religious" folks who hate the LGBTQ+ community because they have deep-seated homophobia, misogyny, etc. and they use their religion to justify it, but there are also plenty of folks who learned those beliefs from their (distorted) religious teachings

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited April 10
    i am not religious and don't believe in any god but i'm also still incredibly catholic

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  • CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Nobeard wrote: »
    Yes I find it wierd. Thing is, it ain't the Jesus part, it's the being super wierd into a thing so much that they have to bring it up/display it all the time. Jesus, sports, politics, pop musicians, anything. It's fine and good to be super into things, I could tell you quite about about Venus flytraps and Bigfoot and alien abductions but none of that is my identity. My identity is how I treat people in my life.

    Ultimately this comes down to my philosophy that people in general will be who they are and do what they are going to do and religion is factored post hoc. The church folks helping the homeless? Odds are they'd still do that, church or no church.

    The thing is, Evangelicalism explicitly teaches that you are to be a Christian first and basically everything else second. Even human. Especially human.

    The "old, sinful nature" - sometimes, poetically, the "old Adam" - i.e., the inborn human nature with its messy drives and selfish* desires - is, according to Luther, to be daily drowned** and replaced by the "new nature" that desires only to serve Jesus. But you have to kill it again every day because the damn thing won't stay dead.

    Why, yes, Evangelicals are traditionally mistrustful of (secular) therapy and such dangerous concepts as "loving yourself" and "listening to your body" and "processing your emotions," why do you ask?

    *I don't see "selfish" as a bad thing necessarily, but Evangelicalism definitely does
    **in the waters of baptism, you see

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    I think this church is okay

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yiq4ocwQJs

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  • ProlegomenaProlegomena Frictionless Spinning The VoidRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    I inherited a little medal that purportedly contains a bit of Anthony of Padua's robe, the patron saint of lost things (also my confirmation saint, because he seemed like a really cool guy), and I keep it in my wallet and I've never lost my wallet so that's a thing to think about.

    I've never lost my wallet either, that's a powerful medal you've got there

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  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Ive never understood the young earth creationists insistence that God couldn’t possibly done the Big Bang, or evolution. Youre telling me an all powerful God could not possibly create the laws of gravity, physics, quarks, black holes, and all the other things our minds can barely comprehend? That he placed rules that allowed species to change incrementally over millions of years? That instead, God decided to just make the world in six days 6000 years ago, and then he needed to take a day off because it was a lot of work.

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  • Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    I think if there’s one god he probably doesn’t need worship, certainly not daily or even weekly. I think that bit is for the church.

    I think what god wants most of all is crabs, and he’s just coasting now.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    to be honest I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that they have this idea that science and scientists are in the business of trying to disprove God and the divine, so they just have a kneejerk reaction to disbelieve and try to disprove anything that contradicts or questions the word of God

    they'd probably still be trying to disprove the heliocentrism of our solar system but that one's pretty much a lost cause for them at this point. evolution and especially the Big Bang have enough plausible doubt (in their minds) that they can still try to worm their way out of accepting them

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  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 10
    I believe in Jesus because image size got fixed on the forums, that surely must be an act of divinity

    checkmate atheists

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Dilige, et quod vis facRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    Anzekay wrote: »
    I believe in Jesus because image size got fixed on the forums, that surely must be an act of divinity

    checkmate atheists

    About that ...
    Lanz wrote: »
    incredibly disappointed in you all for not posting instead extremely small images

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    Lanz wrote: »
    WAIT A SECOND

    Y’ALL

    Y’ALL?!?!

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    Tox wrote: »
    Wait Lanz so you didn't post a giant emoji??

    Nope, it’s 15x16px
    It's now reverse-broken on mobile.

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    reVerse wrote: »
    I really fuckin' hated CCD when I was a kid, that's like, evening bible classes, it sucked

    I got in trouble because I would draw totally awesome Diablo 2 angels on the bible workbook they gave you

    Why'd that get you into trouble? Were they secret satanists, opposed to angels and the Heavenly horde? Or were they the wrong kind of angels?

    edit; The Heavenly Horde doesn't sound right. Hoard, like dragons? But Satan is a dragon. The Heavenly whore perhaps? Do they have those in Heaven? If not, they should.

    big swords, mostly.

    Do they not know Michael?

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    It’s not weird to me when people younger than I am (almost 40) are invested in a religion, especially in today’s climate. There’s a lot of fear and pain in the world right now, like physical violence and sickness and economic pain and destitution.

    Religion gives answers or coping mechanisms for those things and people take comfort in that. The worst and (in America at least) most prevalent versions of that also gives people targets for their pain and anger. It’s just kind of a win/win for them.

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    I spend a lot of time around younger people with a diverse array of religous beliefs and cultures and I'm not a weird freak about it. It's really easy. Just be normal.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    I spend a lot of time around younger people with a diverse array of religous beliefs and cultures and I'm not a weird freak about it. It's really easy. Just be normal.

    I don't think anyone is being a weird freak? but ty for the condescension

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    I dunno. Being weird little freaks is an important part of the belief systems of many posters here.

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  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    I'm against organised religion because as a pathologically disorganised person I find it deeply othering

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  • LucedesLucedes Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    i'm a devout agnostic, but like, sometimes a good ritual is fun even if its effects are unknowable or irrelevant.

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    What is even weirder to me though is when people younger than me smoke (cigarettes specifically)

    I just assumed there was enough information and messaging out there that kids would just...not start smoking anymore but kids are still stupid I guess

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    What is even weirder to me though is when people younger than me smoke (cigarettes specifically)

    I just assumed there was enough information and messaging out there that kids would just...not start smoking anymore but kids are still stupid I guess

    sometimes you just want to microdose suicide

    people do shit knowing how bad it is all the time. people drink and alcohol is literally poison

    edit: I smoked because ♪ I'm hoping for an early death, and I need to cling to something.

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    God, the act of smoking is so good. Every part of smoking is great except for the cancer part.

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Ive never understood the young earth creationists insistence that God couldn’t possibly done the Big Bang, or evolution. Youre telling me an all powerful God could not possibly create the laws of gravity, physics, quarks, black holes, and all the other things our minds can barely comprehend? That he placed rules that allowed species to change incrementally over millions of years? That instead, God decided to just make the world in six days 6000 years ago, and then he needed to take a day off because it was a lot of work.

    From my experience this stems from the interpretation that the Bible is the literal word of God. No metaphor or anything. What is written down is exactly what was said and what was done. I'm not super sure where this belief came to be because, historically, I don't think that's always been the case.

    But the young warth creationists stem from that core idea. Somebody somewhere did the "math" on the Begats part of the Bible (a list of generations in the Bible's Old Testament that appear in Genesis 5 and the books of 1 and 2 Chronicles) and somehow worked it out to be around 6 or so thousand years between Adam and Christ, plus the 2000 or so since Jesus. Wham bam the earth is 6 to 10 thousand years old and man kind walked amongst dinosaurs based off one vague mention of a leviathan in Job or something.

    Couple that with any mention of time scales that might allow for the plausibility of that dirty old evolution to occur and that's how you get that particular brand of faith. Luckily, I think it may have fallen back out of fashion. I don't see as much of it as I did maybe 10 or so years ago.

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    cursedking wrote: »
    God, the act of smoking is so good. Every part of smoking is great except for the cancer part.

    God yeah smoking rules and it makes you look cool, too.

    We gotta get our scientists working on making cigarettes not full of cancer. I want to smoke an airplane or in a restaurant next to children again. If people want to bring their screaming asshole child into a brewery I want to blow a hot ball of nicotine smoke right into their dumb little faces.

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  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited April 10
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    Juggernut wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    God, the act of smoking is so good. Every part of smoking is great except for the cancer part.

    God yeah smoking rules and it makes you look cool, too.

    We gotta get our scientists working on making cigarettes not full of cancer. I want to smoke an airplane or in a restaurant next to children again. If people want to bring their screaming asshole child into a brewery I want to blow a hot ball of nicotine smoke right into their dumb little faces.

    Unfortunately our lungs are intended for breathing earth air and basically anything else you put in them they aren't going to be super happy

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Ive never understood the young earth creationists insistence that God couldn’t possibly done the Big Bang, or evolution. Youre telling me an all powerful God could not possibly create the laws of gravity, physics, quarks, black holes, and all the other things our minds can barely comprehend? That he placed rules that allowed species to change incrementally over millions of years? That instead, God decided to just make the world in six days 6000 years ago, and then he needed to take a day off because it was a lot of work.

    From my experience this stems from the interpretation that the Bible is the literal word of God. No metaphor or anything. What is written down is exactly what was said and what was done. I'm not super sure where this belief came to be because, historically, I don't think that's always been the case.

    But the young warth creationists stem from that core idea. Somebody somewhere did the "math" on the Begats part of the Bible (a list of generations in the Bible's Old Testament that appear in Genesis 5 and the books of 1 and 2 Chronicles) and somehow worked it out to be around 6 or so thousand years between Adam and Christ, plus the 2000 or so since Jesus. Wham bam the earth is 6 to 10 thousand years old and man kind walked amongst dinosaurs based off one vague mention of a leviathan in Job or something.

    Couple that with any mention of time scales that might allow for the plausibility of that dirty old evolution to occur and that's how you get that particular brand of faith. Luckily, I think it may have fallen back out of fashion. I don't see as much of it as I did maybe 10 or so years ago.

    Yeah, these yahoos' brains would break reading the original Hebrew, considering that it's full of puns, wordplay, and metaphor out the ass.

    Just in the account of God making man in Genesis 1, you have Adam being made from adama, the Hebrew word for loam or fertile soil, there's also the vestiges of Juadism's henotheistic lineage to be found in the full text of the 1st Commandment, Ruth exposing feet (biblical allusion number 389 to sex), etc...

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    get me some menthols and scratch tickets

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