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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    Someone on a podcast somewhere joked that the twins who wrote Stranger Things were the twins from Good Charlotte and I walked around for a while believing that this was true.

  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    I think Abrams seems to have a bigger presence in nerd cultures since he rebooted both Star Trek and Star Wars movie series.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Someone on a podcast somewhere joked that the twins who wrote Stranger Things were the twins from Good Charlotte and I walked around for a while believing that this was true.

    THIS IS THE ANTHEM THROW ALL YOUR HANDS UP

  • rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Stranger things does have a hell of a cast though.

    Even the parts that don’t work as well can be fun to watch because of that.

  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    S4 of Stranger Things has a pretty great new character and an absolutely sick needle drop. Although I guess it's not really a needle drop. Anywho, it's pretty dope

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Stranger Things has been going for nine years?

    Netflix is not good at making television shows. Plus the stars all got famous and it’s hard to schedule em all now with how big the cast is.

    9 years but only 4 complete seasons with the 5th still in production.

    This... This does seem like a weird thing to even allow for the continuation of a television show.

    How did we get here, when it used to be that a TV actor usually starred in one movie a year (which was almost always filmed during the summer, when their show wasn't actively in production).

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    I don't hate Stranger Things, and have found myself enjoying it quite a bit here and there, but (and I say this with every bit of baggage you'd like to infer) it feels like the most JJ Abrams-ass show that JJ Abrams never made.

    I say this with as much care as possible, but you folks have got to try to move beyond the shadow of Mr. Abrams.

    A singular artist who you don't care for shouldn't have this much pull on your creative passions.

    What's interesting is that he does suck and does do harm, but that stuff doesn't get talked about nearly as much as two mediocre movies in a franchise with a non-zero number of mediocre movies already

    Like the massive, go-nowhere development deal at HBOMax. Not only did he take up 14 slots on a development slate, he burned the time and talent of everyone who got sucked into those 14 blackholes. Hundreds of people wasting time and resources, because he overextended and couldn't relinquish control. Burned it all rather than loosen his grip.

    HBOMax was doing a lot of interesting stuff when they debuted, and then their content pipeline got clogged, and Abrams was the blockage. We'll literally never know what could've been, because the industry retraction is so severe that the money may never flow like that again in our lifetimes.

    But it isn't as funny or as easy to complain about that as "Somehow, something something returned"

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    Stranger Things has been going for nine years?

    Netflix is not good at making television shows. Plus the stars all got famous and it’s hard to schedule em all now with how big the cast is.

    9 years but only 4 complete seasons with the 5th still in production.

    This... This does seem like a weird thing to even allow for the continuation of a television show.

    How did we get here, when it used to be that a TV actor usually starred in one movie a year (which was almost always filmed during the summer, when their show wasn't actively in production).

    Longer seasons kept actors employed longer. Actors want to be working, they want to be out there, getting attention. If the show isn't giving them enough work/attention, they have to go get it elsewhere.

    But streaming just keeps refusing to make television, and then all these knock on problems happen.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Stranger Things taking so damn long to come out was a big part of why I lost interest.

    I didn’t like the show enough to wait so long between seasons.

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Late, but started watching The Last of Us

    It's remarkable how severely my anxiety increased the instant
    a dog
    appeared on screen. Bad showmakers, don't do that!

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    That’s why I have the Does the Dog Die app on my phone and I try to update it with information when I watch weird obscure shit nobody watches

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited October 1
    Season 4 of Stranger Things would have been better if they had actually committed to
    killing off Max.

    The only character they were actually willing to kill for real is the abusive, racist step brother.

    The fact that they actually showed her getting boneitis'd really surprised me. And then of course they backpedal almost immediately.

    SirToasty on
  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    I don't hate Stranger Things, and have found myself enjoying it quite a bit here and there, but (and I say this with every bit of baggage you'd like to infer) it feels like the most JJ Abrams-ass show that JJ Abrams never made.

    I say this with as much care as possible, but you folks have got to try to move beyond the shadow of Mr. Abrams.

    A singular artist who you don't care for shouldn't have this much pull on your creative passions.

    What's interesting is that he does suck and does do harm, but that stuff doesn't get talked about nearly as much as two mediocre movies in a franchise with a non-zero number of mediocre movies already

    Like the massive, go-nowhere development deal at HBOMax. Not only did he take up 14 slots on a development slate, he burned the time and talent of everyone who got sucked into those 14 blackholes. Hundreds of people wasting time and resources, because he overextended and couldn't relinquish control. Burned it all rather than loosen his grip.

    HBOMax was doing a lot of interesting stuff when they debuted, and then their content pipeline got clogged, and Abrams was the blockage. We'll literally never know what could've been, because the industry retraction is so severe that the money may never flow like that again in our lifetimes.

    But it isn't as funny or as easy to complain about that as "Somehow, something something returned"

    I don't know how I had never heard of this. It forms an infuriating pair with Sony "12 Live Service Games" Interactive Entertainment, that's for sure.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited October 1
    Season 4 of Stranger Things gave us this

    https://www.youtube.com/QnxbNd74UCU

    Jragghen on
  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Anyway, my Stranger Things hot take:

    Every season has been quite good, but in different ways. Season 1 was probably the best because it came out of nowhere, and while I appreciate and enjoy everything we've gotten, in later seasons some of the characters it felt like they didn't know what to do with them. I feel like the series would have been better off being a time-capsule 1980s based anthology series where each season was a self-contained story, allowing them to go into different casts and also produce seasons faster.

  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    I think Abrams seems to have a bigger presence in nerd cultures since he rebooted both Star Trek and Star Wars movie series.

    Weirdly, I wasn’t even thinking of those when I made the comparison. More of the Super 8 flavor of wide-eyed but aimless nostalgia Abrams.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I love Super 8 so much.

  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    I love Super 8 so much.

    It’s a real good time! Probably my favorite Abrams thing if we aren’t counting Fringe.

    But he did nail the Fringe theme song.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I love Super 8 so much.

    It’s a real good time! Probably my favorite Abrams thing if we aren’t counting Fringe.

    But he did nail the Fringe theme song.

    I love turning up the surround sound and watching the train crash scene.

  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    I've been marathoning the 2004 The Batman, something I'm familiar with but I don't think I saw much past season 1. Overall it's fine so far, I like a jovial Bruce and the designs of the rogue's gallery and the Batmobile are between fun and "at least they did something different".

    Anyway in this episode the Joker traps people who wronged him in a theatre. He doesn't restrain anyone, barring gluing their shoes to the floor. His plan is to use a raygun that traps his victims into stone playing cards.

    Now, if you're wondering, "why don't people take their shoes off?" one of the detectives does realise this a minute into being captured, but is told by his partner to not do anything rash... before she does the exact same thing shortly after and gets carded. Please show up soon Commisioner Gordon.

  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited October 1
    tynic wrote: »
    I'm genuinely not sure why there hasn't been more buzz here around slow horses, I've been watching it from day one. In the best tradition of Le Carré, with all that implies.

    But it's got 10 Emmy noms, so I guess someone must be paying attention.

    Probably because it’s on Apple TV.

    I like the series! It’s exciting! It’s well acted!

    But yet I keep forgetting about it because it’s on Apple TV and because of this I’ve only watched for episodes.

    Blake T on
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Stranger Things 4 really felt like "The writers have no idea what to do with 3/4ths of these characters, and they are also contractually required to have them in every episode."

  • SchadenfreudeSchadenfreude Mean Mister Mustard Registered User regular
    edited October 1
    Jonathan Byers is a creep.

    Schadenfreude on
    Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe
  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I think JJ Abrams comes off poorly a lot because of how he seems to be trying to imitate Steven Spielberg without being anywhere near as good as him.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 1
    Apple TV

    THAT’s why I hadn’t heard of Slow Horses

    I need to find someone’s I can borrow so I can watch more of The Silo.

    Raijin Quickfoot on
  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    Only Murders continues to be great.

    (today’s episode)
    Especially Zack’s quick scene in the hospital.
    “Like a Capri Sun!!”

  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    edited October 2
    Brett Gelman doing wacky hijinks to Russians was hard enough to stomach before Brett Gelman started sharing his thoughts and feelings.

    Gustav on
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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Oh no what did Brett Gelman say

  • NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Oh no what did Brett Gelman say

    He's deeply pro-Israel, in the worst way

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
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    maybe its time to just stop making the show

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Brolo wrote: »
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    maybe its time to just stop making the show

    This post brought to you from the year 2005

  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    I thought they'd retired that years ago? Did they bring it back?

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2
    Reservation Dogs show runner Sterlin Harjo has a new protect coming on FX.


    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/reservation-dogs-sterlin-harjo-next-fx-series-1236019408/

    Raijin Quickfoot on
  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    is there really any un-mined humor left in the strangle gag?

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    is there really any un-mined humor left in the strangle gag?

    Was there ever any humor in it to begin with? I don’t remember ever not feeling kind of uncomfortable when Homer strangled Bart

  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Reservation Digs show runner Sterlin Harjo has a new protect coming on FX.


    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/reservation-dogs-sterlin-harjo-next-fx-series-1236019408/

    And the cast includes Kaniehtiio Horne, fuck yeah.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    I don't like Stranger Things a ton, in part because calling it an "original" series feels like a stretch for me personally

    I don't think it improves any on the Amblin films it's indebted to. I'd rather just toss one of those on than watch the very expensive, not especially deft fanfiction version

    I totally get that it's different strokes for different folks but I don't think it's fair to not consider the show an original series just because it shares some DNA with Amblin films. There's tons of heavily referential work out there that I don't think people are that critical of - things like the X-Files, The Simpsons, etc.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    I don't like Stranger Things a ton, in part because calling it an "original" series feels like a stretch for me personally

    I don't think it improves any on the Amblin films it's indebted to. I'd rather just toss one of those on than watch the very expensive, not especially deft fanfiction version

    I totally get that it's different strokes for different folks but I don't think it's fair to not consider the show an original series just because it shares some DNA with Amblin films. There's tons of heavily referential work out there that I don't think people are that critical of - things like the X-Files, The Simpsons, etc.

    Everyone's line on what's "homage" and what's "lifting" is different, and Stranger Things happens to fall on the wrong side of mine

    I don't think they're bad people or that people who like the show are fools or whatever, I just don't think the show improves sufficiently on the source material for my tastes

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    If I like it it's good and if I don't like it it's bad, it's very simple

  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Lets wrestle this out. Like they do in The Postman.

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