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[Black Myth: Wukong] The journey based on the Journey to the West
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Black Myth: Wukong is a 2024 action role-playing game developed and published by Game Science, playing very similar to the recent God of War entries.
It is based on the classical Chinese novel, Journey to the West, here's a quick 11 part primer for the unfamiliar. To sum it up even further, it reads like a proto-shonen manga plot: Overpowered protagonist, monster of the week and more.
Teaser Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xGiPUeevCMFinal Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzyMLoSwYvk
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They really do! No sounds like it!
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The game is beautiful and the combat feels really good. It has kind of a Bloodborne "always be on offense" thing going on, which I like. It's also nice that you don't lose experience or progress when you die, so it's less stressful overall.
The author of that article is now backpedaling and claiming she actually wasn't talking about the devs but rather the community she claims they foster. Actual Chinese women have also started pointing out that those quotes by IGN were either taken out of context or completely mistranslated.
So for example, the one about wanting to hire more people and "get licked until I can't get an erection" is actually an idiom that roughly translates to: "I was getting so much flattery and people brown-nosing me, it was difficult to focus on the actual game development process." Which is not what the IGN translation indicated at all.
It should also be pointed out that the translator IGN used, Khee Hoon Chan, has a history of racist comments and has started telling people to pirate the game if they want to play it. Rather odd for someone working in the gaming industry.
I just past chapter 1 and the end of chapter animation shorts are pretty top-notch too
The only thing I wish we got was a more vocal protagonist
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I'd say anyone saying they hate an entire race of people is certifiably racist. Going out on a limb, I know.
Only if you completely ignore all the context of why. Funny how you're doing that while at the same time trying to make up context for why the devs aren't disgusting pieces of shit.
I feel like you're getting overly emotionally invested without bringing any evidence to the table. You can feel free to provide context as well, but there's a very clear difference between "this was clearly a mistranslation and here's the evidence" and someone saying "I hate this race of people" in clear English. That said, if you're going to be antagonistic about this topic without actually wanting to engage in a discussion, then I think we can agree you've already made up your mind and so we should just move on.
Given said author has been subjected to massive hate campaigns (By guess who, gamer gate idiots, again) for daring to bring this stuff up, i'm going to need extensive sources to actually justify your points.
To the translator issue: They aren't fucking wrong, and I say that as a white person. The toxicity of gamergate alone the moment any kind of diveristy is brought up is more than evidence of this. So fuck on out of here with your silly gooseshit.
And oh hey, some more research indicates that Game Science is still pulling "No comments" on this stuff, rather than give actual answers and discussions.
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/action/black-myth-wukong-sexism-controversy-interview-no-comment/
Or their creepshow speculator of the streamer restirctions.
https://www.wired.com/story/black-myth-wukong-streaming-controversy/
So... again, fuck off with your silly gooseshit.
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Why does this sealion keep barking.
Again, this is very toxic language and unnecessarily so. If this is your angle of approach, then I think we really can just agree to move on. Because the fact is that if PC Gamer and Wired (both of which are using the IGN piece as their reference instead of their own research as the basis of their allegations) are coming at the devs about unsubstantiated claims, then quite frankly I see no reason why the devs should engage in that power dynamic by giving these outlets something they can further take out of context since they're already approaching this issue in bad faith.
As for the author being subjected to hate campaigns in the West, I'm not sure what that has to do with devs on the other side of the world who are choosing, as you yourself said, to stay out of the discussion by stating "No Comment."
Very mature.
But yes, us being unwilling to fall for your silly goose shit and calling it out it's being immature.
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I've yet to insult you once during this entire thread, yet you've accused me of crying and silly goose shit and told me to fuck off just for bringing your attention to something that you apparently weren't aware of prior to said thread. Now, if you want to actually show me evidence that people putting these translations in their proper context are arguing in bad faith, by all means I'll certainly read and watch it. But so far, you haven't. You've linked articles that go back to that same piece whose translations have already been shown to be - at best - poorly translated and at worse maliciously so, by someone who has repeatedly said she hates an entire race.
I'm sorry but who's being silly here?
The only form of "evidence" you've bothered to link is an idiot who has a 2 month account on youtube and is making the same kind of videos as right wing grifters about SBI. That's not evidence, that's telling on yourself.
If that's allowed to exist, I don't see any reason the knockoff DBZ game can't as well.
What makes this person an idiot? Do you have counter-evidence from someone who speaks Mandarin who can disprove what she's saying?
I would guess the rest of the sentence directly following the word "idiot", but that's just me. Reading through a whole post. Like a loon.
You mean the rest of the post that defaulted to knee-jerk reactions (attacking content creators based on vague, baseless allegations of them being 'grifters' instead of addressing anything they actually said)? Was that a serious answer?
Is it really so difficult for some people to actually just look at the evidence and assess this issue critically? Because it seems pretty cut and dry to me. Rebekah Valentine from IGN wrote a defamatory article based on no evidence she provided beyond maliciously mistranslated posts by someone who (1) is an actual racist and (2) encouraged her followers to commit the criminal act of software piracy. We also know outlets like PC Gamer, Wired, Screen Rant, Dot Esports, The Guardian and others ran with this story based solely on that single IGN piece. Rebekah, again the original author, has since been slowly trying to cover her ass by walking back some of her talking points. First she said Game Science had a pervasive culture of sexism and misogyny (again, based on social media posts that used idioms specific to a culture she's completely unfamiliar with and which native Mandarin speakers have repeatedly put into context as having to do with the development and marketing of the game and not a sexist or misogynistic culture), and now she's saying she actually has "no idea" if the studio is sexist and so she's making it more about the 'community' she feels has formed around the game.
And we know IGN has been gradually trying to distance themselves from the article as well because ever since its publication they've only released pieces having to do with guides and play tips and specs related to Black Myth: Wukong and nothing more related to the alleged sexism. Seems odd for IGN to be so enthusiastically promoting a game whose company it at one point accused of the things people here are now saying qualifies the devs as "scumbags" and "abusers".
2. CEOs set the tone for their companies. For example, Illumination employs Glenn McCoy, a former political cartoonist that is pretty damn homophobic, transphobic, and racist. But McCoy is just one guy working there. He’s not the CEO or any leadership. So that isn’t setting a tone for the culture at Illumination. But if the CEO is saying juvenile things and misogynistic ideas, then it’s likely employees with similar ideas are likely to work there or express said ideas. The fish rots from the head, etc. etc.
3. This does not mean the entire developer is this way. People are trying to make ends meet, and I’m sure we’ve all worked for at least one shitty corporation to keeps our heads above water. And while you may be willing to starve for your principles, I imagine you don’t want to drag your family into that.
4. White colonialism has a…history to say the least, and hating “white people” carries a different context than similar statements about other races. It’s a shorthand for the hegemony and resulting culture that gives white tastes overweighted sway. His statements specifically mention privilege, which should hint at more than just an irrational hatred of a race. Also, this is an Asian guy criticizing other Asians so he’s clearly not an Asian Supremacist or whatever the hell you want to call it. The scope of this in particular exceeds that of a G&T thread, but no the dude ain’t racist. And I’m so white I legally have to warn people to put on sunglasses before I enter a room, so take that as you will.
5. Threads for games are not safe spaces to adore the game, nor are they firing ranges to dunk on it. You don’t have to stop discussing this, but at some point you have to get the discourse going forward. If you’re stuck on the translation then you’re at an impasse and need to move on.
It's honestly, gameplay wise, not much like either. It's fast paced so it would be closer to Sekiro sure. But it's more like a traditional fast paced action game than any kinda soulslike.
And far far farrrr less difficult.
It's like take bonfires and a healing jug and throw them on a fast paced action game with skill trees. That's this game.
The leveling up is interesting. There are different stances with different moves and playstyles, different spells that you can also level up, and just what feels like a lot of variety. I'd say it's a bit like HFW with its skill trees in that regard? You kill things, you level up, you get a skill point. You can also craft/buy weapons and armor.
I also heard someone describe the game as kind of one long boss rush, and they're not wrong. There are almost as many bosses and minibosses as there are regular enemies, it feels like.
I was playing last night and the gameplay finally clicked and I got past a couple roadblocks. Went back and cleaned the clocks of a few bosses that had been giving me grief.
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It's got some challenge and no difficulty levels and expects you to use the mechanics.
But just not on the level of what souls games usually do.
Still expect a game that's really all about high paced boss fights that kill you in a few hits. But you will probably still one shot them more often than not unless you didn't get to heal first then maybe you need 2-3 goes. But nothing too crazy that I've seen so far.
Yeah, I was watching a stream and the plot is incomprehensible. Fighting a dragon on a frozen lake, win that fight. MC is walking away, gets ambushed by a monkey with wings. Suddenly MC is pensive and is struck down without fighting back. Then you turn up in a jail, without comment. It's like one of those "do a whole season of anime in one game campaign" games, but about a famous book instead.
Some cool visuals and shit.
But this is a gameplay experience first all the way.
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Story wise I think you can put it together but watching the Overly Sarcastic summary series couldn't hurt.
Well, I'm only at Chapter 2 but I think you are a reincarnation or maybe clone of the Monkey King encountering the aftermaths of the original story. There isn't much of a narrative so far but what there is is explained far more overtly than any Dark Souls I would say.
Like do you need to have read Pinocchio to understand Lies of P? I would say not, but there are references and thematic elements that are a lot clearer if you have.