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[Stargate] Watchalong Thread - Chevron Locked! S2E05-S2E06 to Watch! Spoiler beyond!
MorganV
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First, the most basic start. Stargate was a 1994 scifi movie starring Kurt Russell and James Spader about the discovery of a gate that allows transport to another world. It was then adapted for television keeping some basics of the story, including the names of two of the protagonists (now played by Richard Dean Anderson and Michael Shanks) though the personality of O'Neill does change some, but expanding it much further, making it one of the longest running sci-fi franchises of all time.
I'm assuming most people know that, but I wanted a basic opening statement in case someone not familiar wanders in.
OK, after seeing a lot of discussion in Streaming Services, and wanting to talk about Stargate, I'm gonna try an experiment. Read through a couple of weekly watches (Game of Thrones thread was fun, even when the show wasn't). And really enjoyed the concept.
So, here's what I'm thinking. Each week (and the thread title will change to indicate where we're at) those who want, will watch a couple episodes and then spend time talking about it. Nothing is fully locked in stone yet, so depending on where people are feeling, we can adjust.
The initial idea is three episodes a week, upping new eps on a Friday. This can change if there's enough demand, but I figure 3 is two hours, and some people have lives.
Not me. Also means that for at least the start of this exercise, it won't be particularly difficult for someone who joins late (a season or two behind) a chance to catch up. And means if you do miss a week because of vacation or the like, it's not going to be a hard effort.
The intent is to watch through all 17 seasons and three movies. This can be either streaming or DVD.
For the first week, the original Russell/Spader movie + Eps 1 and 2, because if I intend to roll over the new episodes on a Friday, we're already partway through the week, so it'll be the 13th when we flip over to the next, and it'll give people a chance to consider participating.
The basic thread rules are no blatant unmarked spoilers beyond the assigned episodes, unless it's clear everyone is doing a rewatch, and even then, the whole idea is to talk about what is, not will be. Obtuse jokes are fine, but if there's any real chance that it might spoil a first timer's experience, don't, or at least put it in spoiler tags.
Anyways, away we go. Let's see if this works. Could be fun.
I'm assuming most people know that, but I wanted a basic opening statement in case someone not familiar wanders in.
OK, after seeing a lot of discussion in Streaming Services, and wanting to talk about Stargate, I'm gonna try an experiment. Read through a couple of weekly watches (Game of Thrones thread was fun, even when the show wasn't). And really enjoyed the concept.
So, here's what I'm thinking. Each week (and the thread title will change to indicate where we're at) those who want, will watch a couple episodes and then spend time talking about it. Nothing is fully locked in stone yet, so depending on where people are feeling, we can adjust.
The initial idea is three episodes a week, upping new eps on a Friday. This can change if there's enough demand, but I figure 3 is two hours, and some people have lives.
Not me. Also means that for at least the start of this exercise, it won't be particularly difficult for someone who joins late (a season or two behind) a chance to catch up. And means if you do miss a week because of vacation or the like, it's not going to be a hard effort.The intent is to watch through all 17 seasons and three movies. This can be either streaming or DVD.
For the first week, the original Russell/Spader movie + Eps 1 and 2, because if I intend to roll over the new episodes on a Friday, we're already partway through the week, so it'll be the 13th when we flip over to the next, and it'll give people a chance to consider participating.
The basic thread rules are no blatant unmarked spoilers beyond the assigned episodes, unless it's clear everyone is doing a rewatch, and even then, the whole idea is to talk about what is, not will be. Obtuse jokes are fine, but if there's any real chance that it might spoil a first timer's experience, don't, or at least put it in spoiler tags.
Anyways, away we go. Let's see if this works. Could be fun.
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Googling around, it looks like they did a TON of work on that opener episode when they changed it to HD, including that scene.
And in the 5 years they were on Showtime that is the only time they did it. I would love to hear the mundane behind the scenes nonsense that brought that into being.
Aside from the nudity, I think they cut Carter's 'reproductive organs' line (making later references to how terrible that sounds seem somewhat bizarre), and the transport ship that just transforms into a deathglider which is never seen after that episode is replaced with the former ship just flying away and a new one showing up to shoot at them.
It was such a good line it is why Amanda Tapping was cast for the role. She ad-libbed it during auditions. I have no idea why they wouldn't keep it.
O brave new world.
Love these heavy staff cannons mounted on medieval cannon rigs.
That could become an issue. I got the impression that some people simply wanted to split the Stargate discussion (of all the series, and their entire runs) off from the TV thread into its own, not necessarily a no-spoilers watchalong.
That's the name of the movie!
The movie at least had them have to find the address back to Earth, but the implication is the address for a world would change depending on where you're dialling from.
But that would leave them with the same mystery to solve every world they go to, so I can forgive them deciding to just sweep it under the carpet. Same as English becoming the standard language of 97% of worlds. Fun problem to solve once, a bit tedious to have to do 20 times a season.
But even that falls apart becuase there's no way only 38 locations could supply the necessary 6 points of spacial dimensions to every potential gateway in the galaxy.
I think their handwave was their dial home devices could calculate what the location identifier for the world they were going to was as that was the tricky part initially in earth. Also in most situations the dial home console for the startgate was intact where earths was busted af so in theory when you are working with a legit functional dial console the info daniel needed to figure out is already there intact so you don't need months to sus it out the thing is just there.
Weir- "No, we're not doing that."
They specifically stated that worlds that are close together aren't effected by stellar drift. That's why they only have Abydos and Chulak at the start and find more coordinates once they start adjusting for stellar drift.
Edit: fun thing I noticed was how quickly they have up on the original 'everyone gets coated with a layer of frost when they go through the gate'. Pretty sure the cast was like "ok, twice was fun, enough with spraying toxic fake snow in everyone's face"
(Vague description to avoid spoilers) When the stargates were built, they were all over the galaxy and would come to be used by a variety of people, with a variety of languages and writing forms. The only common symbolism amongst such diverse peoples across the galaxy would be looking up into the night sky.
I've always wanted to watch the series, but never had an excuse to. I enjoyed the original movie well enough, and would occasionally catch episodes of the TV Show back when I watched TV and it was in syndication, but I never sat down and watched the whole thing. I've been itching for a good show to watch for a bit now, debating between going back and watching Babylon 5 or finding something new.
Well, this certainly gives me an option, though 17 seasons is INSANE. Does that include the spinoff shows?
Anyways. Hearing everyone comment about edits can so on makes me go hmm.. It's interesting that the full frontal nudity thing was brought up, which I'd never heard before. One of my formative memories as a kid was the pilot/early episode for the 90s revival of The Outer Limits, where a woman got infected by an alien parasite and basically would absorb men into her body if they did not actually love her. This.. well, fucked me up a bit, which probably still lingers, but I digress. Anyways, when I was older, I found clips on either youtube or somewhere else about that episode, and all of a sudden I saw nudity! Okay, sweet, but why? ... Best as I recall, that was from the European version of the show, which had much more lax requirements on puritanical stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if they also felt similarly to the Stargate execs - sell a new show's pilot to syndication by using nudity to draw in attention.
... But again, all speculation. Okay, now to figure out how I can watch all this.
Edit: Jeez, does this forum have an influence or something?
Oh boy is there going to be a phone number reference coming up that I wonder if anybody today is going to even understand now.
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