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Airfryer: worth it?

ThirithThirith Registered User regular
I've heard and read a bunch of good things about airfryers recently, so I wanted to ask what people's experiences are, especially with more recent models. Are people happy with them? What are the situations in which you mainly use them? In what ways do they do a better job than regular ovens/convection ovens? And can they reasonably be used to make the kind of food that's conventionally made in an oil fryer, e.g. French fries or donuts, without too much being lost in the process?

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  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    It's basically the only thing I use to cook food at this point outside of one off pan fried things. Things cook more evenly and quicker in general. The bacon I make in my oven takes about 20 minutes, air fryer about 12.

    Things like french fries, mozzarella sticks, frozen pizzas (if you get the large convection oven ones), etc are fantastic. Supposed you can make donuts but I've never tried. I prefer it for toast over my toaster too. I don't think I can sing its praises enough.

  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    edited September 2024
    Thanks, that's all useful info. In what ways do you prefer airfryer toast to toaster-made toast? And what make do you have?

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  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Thirith wrote: »
    Thanks, that's all useful info. In what ways do you prefer airfryer toast to toaster-made toast? And what make do you have?

    It's just more even since my toaster kinda sucks so I have spots where it gets much darker than the rest (the top doesn't get toasted quite as well). I have one of the gourmia ones, I wanted to be able to do pizzas and such, but it was mostly an impulse buy. I've heard good things about the ninja brand though.

  • SoggybiscuitSoggybiscuit Tandem Electrostatic Accelerator Registered User regular
    I've had a couple of different air fryers, one was the standard pull out tray type and the one we have now is a miniature convection oven type.

    The pull out tray types work pretty well, they are excellent for things like baked potatoes or french fries. They work best with french fries that are precooked, like frozen ones. Obviously stuff like chicken nuggets and cheese sticks as well. My wife and I found this type to be useful but limiting.

    The miniature convection toaster oven type fryers are amazing. Ours looks like a larger toaster oven (https://www.ninjakitchen.com/products/ninja-prestige-smart-xl-air-fryer-countertop-oven-zidDT501) and has several functions. Not as fast as an enclosed air fryer but we use it all time, only firing up the big oven if we absolutely have to. We cook anything we can fit in it. It fits a quarter sheet pan easily, so you can do some light baking (like cookies) pretty easily. I can highly recommend one.

    Overall both of the ones we've had take up about the same amount of space, but we use the toaster oven style one far more often that we did the other one.

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  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    I have a heard time wrapping my head around the idea that an air fryer is anything more than a convection oven with better marketing.
    I have heard that it basically functions the same, but is different enough that the air fryer is a whole step up in terms of usefulness and efficiency, but since I can't see how it is, I write it off to hype

    I want to be convinced, I want to get rid of my toaster and stop using my oven, but with limited space in the kitchen and not seeing how it's any better, I just can't get there.

    Thanks to Thirlth for asking this, 'cause I wanna know!

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    I mean, I think 'more convenient convection oven' is probably a fair way to describe what an air fryer does. An air fryer will have a stronger fan and better air flow, which means you get more consistent heat more quickly than with an oven (this is especially nice for cooking smaller portions.)

    They're also much easier to clean, since you can just take out the trays and soak/scrub them independently.

    I do still use a toaster when I just wanna heat a bagel or something though

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    air fryers are good, they are especially good at handling freezer section stuff, bachelor food

    vs a garden variety oven things cook faster and tend to be crispier and the airflow just helps it suck all the spare moisture out

    is it essential? no not really. but the convenience is hard to beat

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    I second or fourth that they have more or less replaced my oven entirely. No preheat, no ovenmit, no turning my kitchen into a furnace in the middle of the summer. The worst part I have found is that cleaning the basket is a nightmare. The venting for airflow just creates so many places for gunk to accrue. SO, I usually put a sheet of aluminum foil on the bottom and that solves that problem. You can buy parchment paper inserts, but I find they get sucked up into the fan if you don't have enough stuff in there, the foil seems to work better.

  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    My air fryer was a wedding present that I largely was unimpressed with because I foolishly treated it like any other oven and would cook low & slow which yielded terrible results. Once I figured out to use it correctly it has become a permanent fixture on our countertop.

    It is the undisputed king of reheating leftovers. Leftover pizza from that thing is better than it was fresh fight me.

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  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    Ok, real life example. Tonight for dinner, I'm making sausage and stir fry vegetables. The sausage, I see no problems with, but what about stir fry vegetables (from frozen)?
    Is that something you think I could do in an air fryer?

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    chromdom wrote: »
    Ok, real life example. Tonight for dinner, I'm making sausage and stir fry vegetables. The sausage, I see no problems with, but what about stir fry vegetables (from frozen)?
    Is that something you think I could do in an air fryer?

    i..... i dont think ive ever heard of anyone doing anything like that

    its better at things that you want crispy or seared..... thing like... stuff with bread or breading... fried foods, wings, sausages, pizza, burritos

    its good at being a super microwave or a speedrun oven

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    chromdom wrote: »
    Ok, real life example. Tonight for dinner, I'm making sausage and stir fry vegetables. The sausage, I see no problems with, but what about stir fry vegetables (from frozen)?
    Is that something you think I could do in an air fryer?

    First result on Google for me suggests yes
    https://thebalancednutritionist.com/air-fryer-stir-fry/

  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    I'm currently thinking that an air fryer might complement our current oven well. It's a convection oven, but it's relatively old, takes forever to heat up and I'm not sure how reliable the temperature dial is. It's okay for things that have to be in the oven for a longer time anyway, but e.g. when we've got people over it would be handy to have a second oven that's good for roasted vegetables and potatoes, especially if I'm doing something in the oven that needs lower temperatures.

    But yeah, I'd hope that an air fryer can do the kind of things typically done in oil fryers better than a regular oven, mainly because it heats up faster and has better air circulation.

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  • WrizzikWrizzik DelawareRegistered User regular
    One word of caution: if you use the pullout drawer type, make sure you locate where the hot exhaust air comes out and point it away from the wall or cabinets

  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    chromdom wrote: »
    Ok, real life example. Tonight for dinner, I'm making sausage and stir fry vegetables. The sausage, I see no problems with, but what about stir fry vegetables (from frozen)?
    Is that something you think I could do in an air fryer?

    First result on Google for me suggests yes
    https://thebalancednutritionist.com/air-fryer-stir-fry/

    Yes, you would largely use it as an oven itself.

    Most of them come with books that kind of teach you how to use them vs an oven with guidelines on how long to cook certain types of things. If you have the big "cook a whole frozen pizza" style ones, just put a casserole dish in how you would an oven for this kind of meal.

  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    This is what I have now
    - https://www.ninjakitchen.ca/products/ninja-foodi-8-in-1-digital-air-fry-oven-zidSP101C

    I love it because of its small footprint when it folds up. Mainly have done fries in it (I follow Chris Youngs video for that - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw--NLjZBNk&ab_channel=ChrisYoung )
    and have done frozen wings etc. Its works pretty good, lots of other features I havent tried yet. We bought it because our 4 slice toaster finally died on us and previously we had an airfryer that I had dropped and broke so this replaced both at the same time.

    If you have the $$$ and counter space you could look into a Smart Oven, (once again Chris Young has some videos on a few that he reviewed, including a Ninja one)

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    I am an air fryer convert.

    My first exposure to them was an infomercial constantly playing at my old gym, which made me convinced that they were a ridiculous scam.

    But the hype is real. They're magic for cooking lots of stuff, and amazing for reheating stuff. It's quick, easy, delicious, and pretty damn easy to clean up too. I haven't used my oven really at all since picking one up a couple of years ago, and it's helped make me substantially less sad about having to get rid of my grill when moving into my condo.

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  • SimpsoniaSimpsonia Registered User regular
    edited September 2024
    Saying an air fryer is like a a convection oven is like saying your hair dryer is the same thing as a harrier jet engine. Ok, it's not really that big a difference, but air fryer fans are on a completely different level from convection fans. Convection fans only move the air enough just to ensure that every spot of the oven is basically an even temperature with no hot spots developing. An air fryer is like aiming a hair dryer from hell directly at your food. It moves so much more hot air that it dehydrates and browns much much quicker than an oven, convection or otherwise.
    chromdom wrote: »
    Ok, real life example. Tonight for dinner, I'm making sausage and stir fry vegetables. The sausage, I see no problems with, but what about stir fry vegetables (from frozen)?
    Is that something you think I could do in an air fryer?

    In fact depending on certain vegetables, there can be too much browning/dehydration happening before proper cooking, so it does take a little trial and error. For example, when I'm being lazy with my stir fry I'll microwave steam some broccoli for 3 minutes, then air fry for 12-14 minutes until it's perfectly roasted and then just toss it in the pan with everything else. The microwave steaming step ensures the inside is properly cooked by the time the outside is nicely roasted. Saves a lot of time if I have a lot of different cooking-time ingredients and don't want to do everything in batches in my wok.

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  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    edited September 2024
    Ok! Fine! Jeez! Man oh man, I have never felt so bullied and brow-beaten in someone else's Help/Advice inquiry ever in my life. Really, it's an affront.
    Affront of a Cuisinart Compact Airfryer Toaster Oven (on sale now at a regional department store, Kohl's). Also 2 asides, aback, atop, and a bottom.

    Bullies... Whom I hope won't mind if I ask specific questions of.

    Edit:
    @Thirith To be serious from a quick minute, I have gone from wanting to believe but very doubtful to convinced and giving it a legit try.
    I don't know if that will convince you one way or another.
    Just to present the other side of the argument, the only knock I've heard was from a noted pessimist at work, who said he has a convection oven and so he can do everything he could do in an air fryer.
    And of course, there is a pretty good rebuttal to that one post above this

    So really, is it worth it? Depends on what you pay and what you expect out of it. But I have decided it is worth it enough to spend over $100 to find out, in the belief that will be a good price in the long run.

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  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    Yeah, I’m leaning towards getting one, but I first have to see how easy it is to make enough space in the kitchen, and then think about what size to get. I’m generally very eager to get new tech and gadgets, which is why in recent years I’ve tried to be more conservative and argue the other side more strongly. It’s less a financial issue than it is me not wanting to get something that’s likely to end up,in the cellar.

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  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    Well, a coworker told me that they have a combo microwave/toaster/air fryer, and it works great. I just bought a new microwave a year ago, or I would have looked at something like that.
    If space is an issue and you also need a new microwave by some incredible chance, you may want to look in that direction.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    I have a convection oven and an air fryer.

    I find my convection over is more useful because it’s easier for me to throw things in a cookie sheet and go. But they fundamentally give the same end product

    The air fryer would be better if I was single and in an apartment.

    Now over a regular oven or microwave. They are great for heating things up that are normally greasy or you want to crispy.

    I stopped heating up left over pizza slices in the Microwave because it is so much better coming out of the convection oven.

    French fries, potato skins, bacon, those premade chicken patties.

    It’s not great for baking. It tends to dry out baked stuff and the timing is all funky, so I usually just use the regular oven if I’m baking something.

  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Small appliances I can take out of a cabinet and plop on the counter have entirely supplanted a large oven for me. I use a Dash 7-in-1 Air fryer/oven for frying/baking, a Ninja sizzle for skillet stuff/steaks, a Zojirushi rice cooker for rice and an induction cooktop for everything else(e.g. pasta).

    I use the air fryer most often for chicken and ribs which are deadass cheap in my area during a sale, and it cooks faster, cleaner and more evenly than when I used to do it in an oven. I'd say up to half the time in some cases.

    Main advice I'd give is start soaking the fryer basket as soon as you're done with it because settled cooking baskets are always total ass to clean and this is no exception.

  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    I have a convection oven and an air fryer.

    I find my convection over is more useful because it’s easier for me to throw things in a cookie sheet and go. But they fundamentally give the same end product

    The air fryer would be better if I was single and in an apartment.

    Now over a regular oven or microwave. They are great for heating things up that are normally greasy or you want to crispy.

    I stopped heating up left over pizza slices in the Microwave because it is so much better coming out of the convection oven.

    French fries, potato skins, bacon, those premade chicken patties.

    It’s not great for baking. It tends to dry out baked stuff and the timing is all funky, so I usually just use the regular oven if I’m baking something.

    The non basket air fryers can usually switch the convection fan off, which is a big part of their appeal to me. You can use them just like a normal oven for the most part.

  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    I will offer the dissenting opinion of them being ok, but not my favorite appliance. I will use it for a couple things. It hasn't come close to replacing anything else in my kitchen though. Reheating is definitely better than a microwave, but less good than stovetop in my experience. I can't say I have a ton of negative opinions mind you. Just not a lot of positive ones. I can use it to make a rather delicious bacon burger that will cut years off of your life, but is way too much to eat on a regular basis.

  • ThroThro pgroome@penny-arcade.com Registered User regular
    Do you have kids? Do your kids sometimes eat frozen french fries, chickens nuggets, fish sticks, etc? Hell if they're cool and eat broccoli that works too.
    Get a Costco membership and an air fryer.
    Unless you're severely out of space it's worth it. Of all the non-standard kitchen stuff we have the air fryer gets by far the most use.

  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    edited September 2024
    @Gnizmo How would you go about making that bacon burger with an air fryer?

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  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Thirith wrote: »
    Gnizmo How would you go about making that bacon burger with an air fryer?

    So our air fryer has two layers. You put the bacon on one layer and the burgers below them. I forget the temperatures I used but I do remember the bacon will get cooked first and benefits from being flipped. The bacon grease drips right onto the burger and it tastes amazing. Fucking awful for your health, but yummy.

  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    Thro wrote: »
    Do you have kids? Do your kids sometimes eat frozen french fries, chickens nuggets, fish sticks, etc? Hell if they're cool and eat broccoli that works too.
    Get a Costco membership and an air fryer.
    Unless you're severely out of space it's worth it. Of all the non-standard kitchen stuff we have the air fryer gets by far the most use.

    yea, Air fryers rocks the world of frozen foods, as mentioned previous you can make some goddamn amazing fries with them, same with frozen chicken wings, or any other frozen food like nugget.

    That said I have attempted chicken karaage in my Ninja Foodi (at the same time doing some in oil in a large dutch oven pot) The air fryer is not the way to go there, and I suspect if I was to also do something like tonkatsu in it the result would also be less than stellar. It does toast up mochi nicely.

    If my Ninja was just an air fryer I likely would not have it, I am confident enough in my deep frying skills to comfortably use that if I have stuff that really needs that deep fry action, but since it does a bunch of stuff I am glad I have it as an option, shit for the fries alone its great.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Thro wrote: »
    Do you have kids? Do your kids sometimes eat frozen french fries, chickens nuggets, fish sticks, etc? Hell if they're cool and eat broccoli that works too.
    Get a Costco membership and an air fryer.
    Unless you're severely out of space it's worth it. Of all the non-standard kitchen stuff we have the air fryer gets by far the most use.

    To add to Thro's post, this one specifically from Costco. It's effectively a toaster oven on steroids and is a lot more versatile than the ones that are just buckets.

  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    It will do better chips/fries than a regular fan oven, but those have always seemed a bit suspect to me. They're still miles away from being done properly in a deep fat fryer though, if you have one of them.

  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    Okay, got a Philips XXL and made the first batch of roasted sprouts in it. Result wasn’t bad, but I’ll have to play around with the details - amount of oil, salt, temperature and time. It was impressive though how quickly these were done and how evenly they were roasted.

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  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    edited October 2024
    My use has also been going pretty well, with the shortcomings falling on my own lack of cooking ability.
    Biggest plus has been buffalo wings, which have been a lot easier and a LOT less messy. I guess they're also healthier, but whatever with that.
    Biggest downside has been my frozen veggies for dinner. I have not come close to figuring out how to do those well. Maybe I will try going back to fresh vegetables.
    Cleaning has been easy, even though not lining things with aluminum foil has thrown me for a loop.
    Counter space... I really wish I hadn't bought a microwave a year ago so that I could have one of those combo jobbies, because between it and the air fryer, there is not much space left.
    Economy: it wasn't super expensive and seems worth the money, but I don't know that there is any savings to be had here.

    Edit: And I really wish mine had a timer / auto-off, because I found out last night that leaving it going to long will turn a smoked sausage inside out like the pig monster in GalaxyQuest.
    It did not explode though, so thank God for small favors.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    The air fryer is the best human invention ever made. Prometheus gave us fire; Fred van der Weij gave us the air fryer.

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  • DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Since this is here already, a question that I have, as a person considering maybe getting an air fryer - now I just fry stuff in pans or bake it in the oven.

    How annoying are these things to clean? Because I'm lazy, and "miniature oven that has oil flying all inside it" sounds like a thing that needs frequent cleaning, and also like a thing that is a pain in the behind to clean compared to a pan.

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  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Basket types are much easier to clean than toaster oven style. It's definitely one of the painful points for me.

  • CelloCello Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Basket types are much easier to clean than toaster oven style. It's definitely one of the painful points for me.

    It depends on the model

    The one I got was an Instant Pot Vortex or whatever, and it specifically has dishwasher safe racks/drip pan; you can get the rest fairly clean with a wet rag

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    A basket air fryer with a cheap silicone insert is the easiest thing to clean. Just throw the insert in the dishwasher and you’re done.

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  • DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    edited October 2024
    I do not have a dishawasher, being a single dude in a rented apartment, but cleaning a silicone insert in the sink sounds about as much work as the pan, which is good. I'll give a look to those, then.

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Single/two person household also seems like the right use case for the size of most air fryers

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