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[steam] The between-sale December break
Jazz
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TOP OF THE OP PSA: Don't click links in Steam chat, even from friends, without confirming with said friend. Especially if it's about voting for their CS:GO team or really anything related to CS:GO, or anything else really - links are sus, eject them into space!
Welcome to the Steam thread!
This is a pretty neat community of people who like to talk about video games, sales, digital distribution, hat economies, classiness and classholery.
We enjoy long walks on the beach, digital hoarding, gifting, the suffering of longtime members, and raising money for charity.
This is a big, busy thread. There are some guidelines to keep things nice and orderly:
- Be civil.
- This thread is for Steam-related discussion. Try to look for other, more appropriate threads before discussing games or other topics in here. Let's not drain other threads of precious content!
- If you feel someone's acting inappropriately, then quietly report the responsible parties to forum mods.
- Don't post links to active Kickstarters w/o mod permission. Forum-wide rule.
- Link your Steam profile in your sig to help community members find you, see what kinds of games you like, invite you to MP games, etc.
- Do not beg for games.
- Pixies are to be trusted above all others.
We have two core Steam groups. Both of these groups have chat, and both are used sometimes to try to limit giveaways to community members:
Penny Arcade is a general Steam group for folks from the PA forums.
PA G&T Adventure Team is a group that was originally created to get multi/coop going for smaller or older titles. Because it is actively moderated, a lot of folks use it as a giveaway group (to avoid problems we've had in the past with non-forumers scooping up gifts intended for the community.) Membership is locked during major sales.
How do I join the Steam groups?
If you've just arrived, hang out here in the thread for a while and talk games with us before you ask for membership. When you do ask, include a link to your Steam profile. Membership to the two Steam groups is for reasonably active community members. If you have been on the PA forums for a while and have participated, post a link to your Steam profile here in the thread and a Steam group mod will take care of you.
If you've been on the forums for three days during a major sale and your only posts have been to casually express your strong desire for certain games, your request is unlikely to find a positive reception. Ditto if your very first post on the forum is to ask for group membership. Sadly this does happen sometimes.
The best parts of this community are available to you now just by showing up. Read some posts, make some posts, ask to be invited as a guest to chat, buy some games, play some games, etc. Group membership is modest icing on delicious cake.
Warning: This guy is going to make you buy games. All the games.
How do I join the chat rooms of the PA Steam groups?
Each PA Steam group has its own chat room which you can freely join once you are a member. They are happy places with no monsters.
To enter a group chat you must follow these steps:
Penny Arcade is a general Steam group for folks from the PA forums.
PA G&T Adventure Team is a group that was originally created to get multi/coop going for smaller or older titles. Because it is actively moderated, a lot of folks use it as a giveaway group (to avoid problems we've had in the past with non-forumers scooping up gifts intended for the community.) Membership is locked during major sales.
How do I join the Steam groups?
If you've just arrived, hang out here in the thread for a while and talk games with us before you ask for membership. When you do ask, include a link to your Steam profile. Membership to the two Steam groups is for reasonably active community members. If you have been on the PA forums for a while and have participated, post a link to your Steam profile here in the thread and a Steam group mod will take care of you.
If you've been on the forums for three days during a major sale and your only posts have been to casually express your strong desire for certain games, your request is unlikely to find a positive reception. Ditto if your very first post on the forum is to ask for group membership. Sadly this does happen sometimes.
The best parts of this community are available to you now just by showing up. Read some posts, make some posts, ask to be invited as a guest to chat, buy some games, play some games, etc. Group membership is modest icing on delicious cake.
Warning: This guy is going to make you buy games. All the games.
How do I join the chat rooms of the PA Steam groups?
Each PA Steam group has its own chat room which you can freely join once you are a member. They are happy places with no monsters.
To enter a group chat you must follow these steps:
- On the main Steam menu, go to your username submenu and then click on the "GROUPS" option
- Then, click on the link showing the number of people present in the chat of the group that you want to join. This will launch the Steam client (in case it is not already running in your system) and open the group chat in it
- In case your web browser is not able to launch the Steam client, the following window will show giving you the option to open the group chat directly in your web browser (web chat) or to download the Steam client
- Alternatively, you can go to the main page of a Steam group and then click the "Enter chat room button"
- Want to chat and use Steam, but not at your computer? There are apps for that!
Android Steam or iOS Steam - Don't want to install the full Steam App, but still want to chat...there are apps for that as well!
Android Chat or iOS Chat
Steam sales are legendary. From small to honking massive:
Other retailers like Amazon and Green Man Gaming get into the act now too, so there are often great values to be had during sales for Steam-activatable games from other sites.
Seasonal Sales Birthdays are basically a big deal around this thread.
Important Note: If you are waiting for a particular game, be sure to mind the countdown timer on the game's store page.
Steam's refund policy, Abuse section:
Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.
- Daily Deals: One game a day goes on sale at 10am PT for 24 hours.
- Midweek Madness: Starts 10am PT Tuesday and ends Thursday afternoon.
- Weekend Sale: Starts midday Thursday and ends with the sale rollover Monday. Sometimes accompanies free play weekends for MP titles.
- Publisher Sale: Many of the publishers games will get a modest discount with a single title or franchise getting a featured day with a deeper discount. Follow the big sale guidelines.
- Seasonal Sales: The monsters awake in the thread. Huge swaths of games are discounted along with whatever else the evil geniuses at Valve cook up to separate us from our money. There are often metagames for sale achievements, collectibles, or other madness that reward buying, playing, gifting, and participating in Steam's community. The summer sale usually starts in the last week of June and runs for two weeks, and the Winter sale usually runs for two weeks across Christmas and New Year's.
Other retailers like Amazon and Green Man Gaming get into the act now too, so there are often great values to be had during sales for Steam-activatable games from other sites.
Seasonal Sales Birthdays are basically a big deal around this thread.
Important Note: If you are waiting for a particular game, be sure to mind the countdown timer on the game's store page.
Steam's refund policy, Abuse section:
Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.
Sometimes people gift games.
Rare footage of a gift fight in action...
- Don't feel that you have to gift games to be a part of this community. It's just one of many things that go on. Some people can give lots of games. Some people can give a game or two a year. Some people make amazing images. Some people find hidden indie gems and report about them. Some people relay amazing gaming moments. Some people report sales. Some people are hysterical. There are many ways to participate in this community. Gifting is just one of them and is not required.
- If you run a contest, have entries PMed to you. The thread gets too cluttered otherwise. You can, however, post the winning entries.
- If you receive a gift, then take a moment to thank the gifter. Use the notification system so they can see your thank you post! ( @NAME. Use quotes around names with spaces.) See below for an example.
- If you win a Steamgifts giveaway, in addition to thanking the gifter, be sure to mark the gift as received on Steamgifts. You tie up a gift 'slot' for the gifter until you do.
- In addition to contests, wishlist gifting, ninja gifting, revenge gifting, pile-on gifting and Steamgifts.com giveaways, we have the new [ codes ][ /codes ] tags which can fire off one or more Steam codes (or activation links). More info about [ codes ] below.
- Steam direct gifting still works, but since we can't use our inventory the same, Steamgifts doesn't work as well anymore, thus you may find this Paypal Steam Wallet link handy should you want to throw Steam Wallet Codes instead.
- Beware the region shield!
If the price difference between the 2 regions is more than 10% after currency conversion, you can not gift it (at least if the price after conversion is lower in your region than in the recipient's region).
For price references between regions you can use these sites:
https://steamdb.info/
https://isthereanydeal.com/
But using the Augmented Steam browser extension is faster since it adds an info overlay when you move the mouse over the price tag of games on their Steam page:
If you still want to gift the game you have some options:
-Sending a gift card using external funds (non-Steam friends can not do this). For custom amounts over the minimum allowed to purchase you can use this guide or use the Augmented Steam browser extension which do the same all by itself.
-Buying a region free game key on authorized sellers like Fanatical or GMG. Once again Augmented Steam browser extension can be very useful because it adds an extra info on the Steam game page showing the best deal for the game at any time (see image above).
Rare footage of a gift fight in action...
Where are you guys getting those nifty Steam Signatures?
Check out Alabaster Slim for his lovely signature generator.
Has Game X ever been Price Y? How can I keep track of all the sales and discounts?
http://isthereanydeal.com/ is your friend. Sync your Steam wishlist and get notifications when prices drop. Double check that you are getting a Steam key from a 3rd party site before buying.
How do the new [codes ][ /codes] tags even work?
They don't.
Steam Game Categories
You can make a copy of of the file below to backup your category tags!
\Steam\userdata\*USERIDHERE*\7\remote \shareconfig.vdf
Trading cards? Badges? Steam profile levels? Boosters? FOILS?! What the hell?
Jrraghen put together this helpful guide: The House of Cards!
But that's pure, diabolical evil!
Yes, that's right.
Can we trade cards in the thread?
Yes, but it's inefficient. Use the Steam feature that shows which of your friends has the cards you need. Join our Steam group for trading cards: PA Card Sharks
Check this handy tip from HiT BiT:
A little Steam trading trick some of you may not be aware of:
You can share this URL anywhere, including your forum sig.
If you have shared or posted your URL and would like to stop receiving trade offers from it use the "Create New URL" button. A new Trade URL will be created turning the previous one inoperative.
Is Steam down?!
Is it Tuesday? It's probably scheduled maintenance.
It's not Tuesday. Is Steam down?!
http://isSteamdown.com/
What are you people talking about? Why hats and what is an "Isy?"
Check out the handy Steam Thread Primer, written by Smokestacks!
Why are you people obsessed with Bad Rats and Amnesia?
A moment of ill-advised swagger from Anoffday turned into a horrifying LP of Bad Rats which, because reasons, turned into over $6000 raised for Child's Play.
CorriganX raised over $1100 for Child's Play via Amnesia.
What is this Steamgifts site? I wish to create a giveaway! I cannot enter a giveaway!
Steamgifts is a neat site that lets people create giveaways for games on Steam. Points for entering giveaways are accumulated over time, so just wait a bit if you need points. Entry to giveaways can be limited by Steam group membership to prevent mooches from getting games.
How do I make one of those cool Steam Gifts signature giveaway banners?
What are all these bundles you people keep talking about?
In addition to Steam sales and sales of Steam keys on other sites and gifts, we live in a golden age of bundles! Bundle sites sell batches of games for modest amounts of money, often as low as a few dollars. Many, but not all, contribute to charity and many, but not all, give you Steam keys for the games. Sometimes you'll buy an indie gem that isn't even on Steam, and later when arrives on Steam you will get a key through the bundle site. Be careful if you plan to gift some of the games, as sometimes the bundled games will come in a single Steam key. We have a separate bundles thread.
I have too many games! Which do I play?
Steam Roulette randomly picks a game for you.
I have too many games! How do I move them to my new hard drive?
Steam Mover makes transporting your massive library easier.
But wait! I have ALL OF THE GAMES installed! I need more hard drive space! What do?
You download Tikione Steam Cleaner and clean it up.
Steam Cleaner also available through GitHub!
That helped! I have more room for stuff. Free stuff.
Isorn wrote:
Someone on a Steam forum made a nice list of all free DLC you can add to your Steam account if you have the base-game but that thread is currently not available so I figure I post it here. Since it is pretty easy to miss some of these.
The sale prices aren't right! What's going on?!
During seasonal sales, you are one of a million monkeys hammering F5 at 10am PT to see the new sales. The system is always borked for 5-20 minutes. Take a deep breath. The Newell will deliver.
Why are some games not available in my region?
Publishers determine what countries get what games. Someone in a suit decided that it wasn't worth the money to make the game available to your region, so it isn't available on Steam. This also applies to cases of games having edited/censored versions showing up on Steam in certain countries. The good news is that you can generally get around this by having someone from another region gift or trade you the game.
Steam is downloading slowly. What gives?
Steam > Settings > Downloads + Cloud to change your download region until things improve. Sometimes other regions are less populated and you can get somewhat better results even if the new server is in another country.
VR - You know, the thing with the goggles and doo-dads.
EvmaAlsar did a great write up about various VR game options on Steam.
Want to review and download your cloud saves?
Follow this magical Cloud Link of Saves and Wonder!!!
What was the PA Friday Night Game Fever?
CorriganX had this crazy idea of getting some folks together to play games and thus Friday Night Game Fever began. Each week a game was posted as the Friday selection and at 9pm EST/6pm PST people would get online and fire up some multiplayer action. The games were typically streamed by at least one or two folks for viewing as well. The game night and its Steam group are not actively managed any more.
Old PA G&T Friday Night Game Fever banner made by HiT BiT
Check out Alabaster Slim for his lovely signature generator.
Has Game X ever been Price Y? How can I keep track of all the sales and discounts?
http://isthereanydeal.com/ is your friend. Sync your Steam wishlist and get notifications when prices drop. Double check that you are getting a Steam key from a 3rd party site before buying.
How do the new [codes ][ /codes] tags even work?
They don't.
Steam Game Categories
You can make a copy of of the file below to backup your category tags!
\Steam\userdata\*USERIDHERE*\7\remote \shareconfig.vdf
Trading cards? Badges? Steam profile levels? Boosters? FOILS?! What the hell?
Jrraghen put together this helpful guide: The House of Cards!
But that's pure, diabolical evil!
Yes, that's right.
Can we trade cards in the thread?
Yes, but it's inefficient. Use the Steam feature that shows which of your friends has the cards you need. Join our Steam group for trading cards: PA Card Sharks
Check this handy tip from HiT BiT:
A little Steam trading trick some of you may not be aware of:
- Go to your Steam Inventory
- Click on the "Trade Offers" button
- Then click on the "Who can send me Trade Offers?" link
- Below you will find a "Trade URL"
You can share this URL anywhere, including your forum sig.
If you have shared or posted your URL and would like to stop receiving trade offers from it use the "Create New URL" button. A new Trade URL will be created turning the previous one inoperative.
Is Steam down?!
Is it Tuesday? It's probably scheduled maintenance.
It's not Tuesday. Is Steam down?!
http://isSteamdown.com/
What are you people talking about? Why hats and what is an "Isy?"
Check out the handy Steam Thread Primer, written by Smokestacks!
Steam Thread Primer:
Gaben/The Newell - Gabe Newell, Director of Valve Software. Called "Gaben" because in the commentary for older Source Engine games he would tell players to email him at "Gabe N. at valvesoftware.com" with user feedback.
Serve the Newell - To buy games on Steam, to give Gaben your money. From this comic edit.
Bad Rats - An incredibly awful 'physics' based puzzle game, available on Steam, notorious for being as awkward as it is broken. Will haunt your dreams. Popular gift to give to people.
Class - An attribute demonstrated by people who will generously purchase games and then give them to internet strangers.
Class War - When two or more forumers buy each other games back and forth until one of them gives up. I know this sounds really crazy, but it happens.
Bundle - Originally the Humble Indie Bundle, which was a "pay what you want" system for a group of games, now usually means any website selling a group of games (usually able to be registered on Steam) for a low price.
Giveaway/A Giveaway - Usually refers to a giveaway on Steamgifts.com, a website where you list a game you want to give away, people enter, and then a winner is randomly decided among all entrants after a set time period.
Hats/The Hatconomy - The purchase and sale of in-game hats or sometimes other items in TF2. Some hats are very valuable, which is funny because they are just hats for videogame characters. People who have valuable hats or other items in their inventories sometimes get messages from random people on Steam begging for those items.
Backlog - The list of games you have purchased, but have not gotten around to playing yet. Tends to grow over time, often to immense proportions. If you do not have a backlog yet, between the thread and the sales you will get one.
Spies/Russian Spies - People who lurk the thread or try to get into the various PA Steam groups not to participate in the community, but to try and get free games.
Steamsigs - Custom forum signatures that display a link to your Steam profile, as well as an image of a game you are currently playing, have played the most in the last two weeks, or have played the most over all time (if you haven't played any games on Steam in the last two weeks). Available here courtesy of forumer Suds. Having a Steam sig (or some sort of clickable link to your Steam profile in your signature) makes it considerably easier for people to add you to their friends list.
Child's Play - A charity started by the writer and artist behind PA that raises money for videogames/toys that go to children's hospitals, originally started in '03, has grown every year. Helps sick kids feel better about their time in the hospital while simultaneously refuting the idea that gamers are antisocial jerks.
Isy - Big Classy, a forumer. Formerly known as "Big Isy", he was granted the new name after donating a hefty amount of money to Child's Play during a fundraiser. Sometimes referred to as Isy, which might cause confusion to people who haven't been around very long.
Summer Dale - A phone's auto-correction of "Summer Sale", which through some sort of internet voodoo produced an actual entity, a smooth voiced funk loving man who lives in a world where the 80s reign eternal and supreme. Also sometimes used to describe the upcoming Summer Sale itself.
Rainbow and/or Slash - Two forumers by the name of Rainbowdespair and slash000 who are notable for developing the third and fourth installments of the Penny Arcade: On the Rainslick Precipice of Darkness series. Also developed Breath of Death VII and Cthulu Saves the World, two RPGs that, along with the Rainslick games, are available on Steam.
Also, sometimes shit gets real. Like that time we all murdered each other for bloodsport games. And there was a kabob conspiracy and a kind of Cthulhu bunny. Akajaybay took us down that particular rabbit hole.
Gaben/The Newell - Gabe Newell, Director of Valve Software. Called "Gaben" because in the commentary for older Source Engine games he would tell players to email him at "Gabe N. at valvesoftware.com" with user feedback.
Serve the Newell - To buy games on Steam, to give Gaben your money. From this comic edit.
Bad Rats - An incredibly awful 'physics' based puzzle game, available on Steam, notorious for being as awkward as it is broken. Will haunt your dreams. Popular gift to give to people.
Class - An attribute demonstrated by people who will generously purchase games and then give them to internet strangers.
Class War - When two or more forumers buy each other games back and forth until one of them gives up. I know this sounds really crazy, but it happens.
Bundle - Originally the Humble Indie Bundle, which was a "pay what you want" system for a group of games, now usually means any website selling a group of games (usually able to be registered on Steam) for a low price.
Giveaway/A Giveaway - Usually refers to a giveaway on Steamgifts.com, a website where you list a game you want to give away, people enter, and then a winner is randomly decided among all entrants after a set time period.
Hats/The Hatconomy - The purchase and sale of in-game hats or sometimes other items in TF2. Some hats are very valuable, which is funny because they are just hats for videogame characters. People who have valuable hats or other items in their inventories sometimes get messages from random people on Steam begging for those items.
Backlog - The list of games you have purchased, but have not gotten around to playing yet. Tends to grow over time, often to immense proportions. If you do not have a backlog yet, between the thread and the sales you will get one.
Spies/Russian Spies - People who lurk the thread or try to get into the various PA Steam groups not to participate in the community, but to try and get free games.
Steamsigs - Custom forum signatures that display a link to your Steam profile, as well as an image of a game you are currently playing, have played the most in the last two weeks, or have played the most over all time (if you haven't played any games on Steam in the last two weeks). Available here courtesy of forumer Suds. Having a Steam sig (or some sort of clickable link to your Steam profile in your signature) makes it considerably easier for people to add you to their friends list.
Child's Play - A charity started by the writer and artist behind PA that raises money for videogames/toys that go to children's hospitals, originally started in '03, has grown every year. Helps sick kids feel better about their time in the hospital while simultaneously refuting the idea that gamers are antisocial jerks.
Isy - Big Classy, a forumer. Formerly known as "Big Isy", he was granted the new name after donating a hefty amount of money to Child's Play during a fundraiser. Sometimes referred to as Isy, which might cause confusion to people who haven't been around very long.
Summer Dale - A phone's auto-correction of "Summer Sale", which through some sort of internet voodoo produced an actual entity, a smooth voiced funk loving man who lives in a world where the 80s reign eternal and supreme. Also sometimes used to describe the upcoming Summer Sale itself.
Rainbow and/or Slash - Two forumers by the name of Rainbowdespair and slash000 who are notable for developing the third and fourth installments of the Penny Arcade: On the Rainslick Precipice of Darkness series. Also developed Breath of Death VII and Cthulu Saves the World, two RPGs that, along with the Rainslick games, are available on Steam.
Also, sometimes shit gets real. Like that time we all murdered each other for bloodsport games. And there was a kabob conspiracy and a kind of Cthulhu bunny. Akajaybay took us down that particular rabbit hole.
Why are you people obsessed with Bad Rats and Amnesia?
A moment of ill-advised swagger from Anoffday turned into a horrifying LP of Bad Rats which, because reasons, turned into over $6000 raised for Child's Play.
CorriganX raised over $1100 for Child's Play via Amnesia.
Previous Years Winter Sale Drives
2019: $2,407.09
2018: $2,190.06
2016: $5,315.84
2014: $9,248
2013: $11,903
Fanda shared this with us:
For our Christmas fundraiser to restore TychoCelchuuu's threadmaking privileges (and help the kids), I donated to Toronto's Hospital for Sick Children. This week I received a nice letter from them! I figured I'd share part of it with y'all, since this applies to all of you at least as much as it does to me.
2019: $2,407.09
2018: $2,190.06
2016: $5,315.84
2014: $9,248
2013: $11,903
Fanda shared this with us:
For our Christmas fundraiser to restore TychoCelchuuu's threadmaking privileges (and help the kids), I donated to Toronto's Hospital for Sick Children. This week I received a nice letter from them! I figured I'd share part of it with y'all, since this applies to all of you at least as much as it does to me.
What is this Steamgifts site? I wish to create a giveaway! I cannot enter a giveaway!
Steamgifts is a neat site that lets people create giveaways for games on Steam. Points for entering giveaways are accumulated over time, so just wait a bit if you need points. Entry to giveaways can be limited by Steam group membership to prevent mooches from getting games.
How do I make one of those cool Steam Gifts signature giveaway banners?
What are all these bundles you people keep talking about?
In addition to Steam sales and sales of Steam keys on other sites and gifts, we live in a golden age of bundles! Bundle sites sell batches of games for modest amounts of money, often as low as a few dollars. Many, but not all, contribute to charity and many, but not all, give you Steam keys for the games. Sometimes you'll buy an indie gem that isn't even on Steam, and later when arrives on Steam you will get a key through the bundle site. Be careful if you plan to gift some of the games, as sometimes the bundled games will come in a single Steam key. We have a separate bundles thread.
I have too many games! Which do I play?
Steam Roulette randomly picks a game for you.
I have too many games! How do I move them to my new hard drive?
Steam Mover makes transporting your massive library easier.
But wait! I have ALL OF THE GAMES installed! I need more hard drive space! What do?
You download Tikione Steam Cleaner and clean it up.
Steam Cleaner also available through GitHub!
That helped! I have more room for stuff. Free stuff.
Isorn wrote:
Someone on a Steam forum made a nice list of all free DLC you can add to your Steam account if you have the base-game but that thread is currently not available so I figure I post it here. Since it is pretty easy to miss some of these.
The sale prices aren't right! What's going on?!
During seasonal sales, you are one of a million monkeys hammering F5 at 10am PT to see the new sales. The system is always borked for 5-20 minutes. Take a deep breath. The Newell will deliver.
Why are some games not available in my region?
Publishers determine what countries get what games. Someone in a suit decided that it wasn't worth the money to make the game available to your region, so it isn't available on Steam. This also applies to cases of games having edited/censored versions showing up on Steam in certain countries. The good news is that you can generally get around this by having someone from another region gift or trade you the game.
Steam is downloading slowly. What gives?
Steam > Settings > Downloads + Cloud to change your download region until things improve. Sometimes other regions are less populated and you can get somewhat better results even if the new server is in another country.
VR - You know, the thing with the goggles and doo-dads.
EvmaAlsar did a great write up about various VR game options on Steam.
Want to review and download your cloud saves?
Follow this magical Cloud Link of Saves and Wonder!!!
What was the PA Friday Night Game Fever?
CorriganX had this crazy idea of getting some folks together to play games and thus Friday Night Game Fever began. Each week a game was posted as the Friday selection and at 9pm EST/6pm PST people would get online and fire up some multiplayer action. The games were typically streamed by at least one or two folks for viewing as well. The game night and its Steam group are not actively managed any more.
Old PA G&T Friday Night Game Fever banner made by HiT BiT
Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To gift your enemies, decimate their wishlists, and hear the lamentations of the backlog.
With thanks to @Mudzgut, building on the work of others for the OP.
With further thanks to @an_alt, continuing @Mudzgut's good work.
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Bravely Default / 3DS Friend Code = 3394-3571-1609
The backup was already here
Steam | XBL
Twitch: KoopahTroopah - Steam: Koopah
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004484595
There are literally dozens of us!
My brother in Tzeench not only have there been a bunch of successful XCOM-like tactical games ONE OF THEM WAS PUBLISHED BY YOU.
They seem to have neglected to mention that part.
I don't have any interest in a lot of things yall talk about so welcome to my pov for a change!
I'm sure I'll get it eventually, but I really dislike the aesthetic and UI which are normally things that I consider the most engaging part of the Personas.
I have little interest in Persona nothing about it grabs me.
Seriously though!
AWAKEN STEEEEEEEEEELLLL
I just have a big grin on my face all the damn time.
This last bit referring to Battletech or another game they published?
Steam | XBL
Yeah it's weird. I like p5s ui, but I think everything in metaphor is ugly. And atlus just uses the same enemies in every game so they're kinda tired and I haven't really seen any progress on that front either. Maybe I'll try it at some point in the future when there is a good sale.
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004484595
And I fucking LOVE fantasy politics.
Battletech, indeed. Thanks to the modding community it's still pretty active.
They've published at least three that I know of. But obviously Lamplighter flopped and I don't know anything about the other except that it was described as "Mafia Xcom" and I kept meaning to look into that. Still, Battletech was fuckin great.
Still waiting for the complete version they release in 2-3 years like Royal and Golden and Portable. I don't have it in me to play a 100+ RPG more than once and I don't wanna play the lesser version.
And the xcom teams latest game unfortunately didn't do so well, despite being way more tactical and aried than just creeping forward in overwatch
The new thread reminds me that I haven't randomly gifted someone in a while. Not seeing any "Is it safe from Dover?" posts anymore, so it's time to remind you all that I'm still a threat.
Legends of Runeterra: MNCdover #moc
Switch ID: MNC Dover SW-1154-3107-1051
Steam ID
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dark caves?
You can't just announce it in the same thread, that takes the fun out of it
Omerta wasn't paradox and the combat never felt.....unfoggy the way X-Com's does by the time you hit the final missions
@MNC Dover is right, technically it isn't a game. It's a license to it that can be revoked at any time.
Empire of Sin was Paradox, though, and is based on the Chicago mob.
I didn't buy it immediately because I was in the downswing of my love hate with the genre and by the time I remembered it was a thing its reviews had already taken a shit, just not s Lamplighter sized shit.
Steam Deck is life!
Now watch the thread get stuck at 1 page for a while. :P
It's a lot of things for me, but it kind of boils down to them taking the things I more tolerate than like from SMT and Persona and making a game from those pieces. And I'm not an SMT fan to start with. The music is the most striking just pure aesthetic difference, but the combat UI is a cluttered mess to me, filled with obnoxious explosions, screen wipes, and far too busy in general. Battles don't have either the visceral coolness of Persona, nor especially the fantastic animations. I know a lot of the Persona skills are still just the standard lazy-ish RPG thing where players/enemies do some vague slash to show they're attacking and the skill plays a completely different set of effects depending on the skill, but it still has all the over the top basic attacks plus the all-out stuff, assists, etc. P5's dungeons were also really fun and engaging, and sold the whole phantom thief schtick hard. P3 and P4 were tolerable, but still more engaging than Metaphor's just running straight at or by enemies to bonk them in the face.
Also, fuck, NextFest is here again. I make such poor decisions, and one of them was to download . . . Holy shit, 54 demos? What am I thinking?
It's okay, I don't care about it either!
I know the bookmark button throws out an error but still works after a refresh.
Anyways, after three hours in Space Engineers I made a car. Within half a minute it was flipped on its back. Good thing I had an earlier save! Next up is an old school lookin' train engine!
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I did no such thing! It's merely late-night everywhere except the west coast.
Thanks for the Dice. They look perfect!
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