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2024 US [Election] Thread: Election Day is this week
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It's a trick answer. RFK won't be in charge of any of those things, since under Project 2025 they will all be disbanded.
Podcasts/Spotify have kind of become the new radio. It's just something you turn on when you want something on in the background, like during a commute or while you exercise. They don't necessarily care about keeping up with literally everything, they just want something familiar.
So it's less about active listening and more about just kind of being around, particularly for casual listeners. You see a similar pattern with any of the new media - the number of subscribers is generally an order of magnitude lower than the average number of views/listens on any given content, while occasionally you will see a viral/popular episode hit far above the subscriber count.
Alyssa Farah Griffin, that was on the Trump admin before bailing, pushed back, said that "deplorables" ended up mattering, however:
When even the normie lib shows are just rolling their eyes at MAGA chuds trying to make this a thing, you know that nobody is actually buying.
The narrative coming out of it would 100% be that they were antagonistic and kill joys. Maybe that would be good who knows, but it’s basically taking an entire day out of their schedule, and how do you prep your candidate to make sure they can explain why the polio vaccine actually worked etc, so they don’t look stumped or flustered when he says that the polio vaccine didn’t cure polio etc, which he did with trump and nobody cared
Takeaways:
- One guy didn't realize he was canvassing for Trump because they're a subcontractor of a subcontractor and he signed an NDA and then got told hey we're pro-Republican
- They're expected to maintain a "17-22% engagement rate for the campaign" which may as well say a "unicorn" engagement rate. Like don't get me wrong I get 25% sometimes, but I've gotten 5% many times more. You're knocking on doors at random hours of the day! You can't control this!
- They need to knock 1000 doors a week. Now, this isn't terrible in like a relatively dense area. But 50-ish doors with like 10-15% engagement rate is probably 2-3 hours even in a pretty dense area. Two or three conversations last 5 minutes? That's cutting into your time. And these folks are going into exurbs/rural areas where they're going to have trouble navigating.
- At first the Michigan canvassers couldn't actually canvass because no one had a valid driver's license. They wound up being taken around in a U-Haul. Like, in the box in the back, without seats.
- The knocks are supposed to take 15 seconds a piece? Which I mean even if you're not doing persuasion that's like quick.
It's just very funny how if this is even a little useful it's entirely down to people who are probably pretty young and nervous doing their best because they're not confident they can slack off. But like this just isn't a job you can easily contract out for wages. There's no indicator you can use that actually shows people are doing what you want them to do.
It's absolutely fair game to reduce that right-wing 20% and replace it with left-wing talking points to stifle that radicalisation pipeline. Rogan is fairly incurious and doesn't particularly care unless his subscribers take a hit - he'll have anyone on his show, accept whatever they say at face value, and not insult them while they're there (although equally he may ask them awkward questions as Trump found out with the election fraud evidence, but Rogan won't push it and just move on unlike e.g. Jonathan Swann).
Giuliani being a racist shit again, naturally.
I believe Rogan responded by saying the poster had TDS.
So I guess I’m saying I don’t necessarily think skipping Rogan is a bad thing.
This guy was on the main stage at their biggest rally, and was a key part of the last trump admin despite just being trumps lawyer, with no indication he won’t play a role in a future one
And it’s 50/50
I think the reason people aren't buying this is the immediate and obvious juxtaposition. The Puerto Rico thing was fresh on people's minds when this dropped. The inciting story has to fade from the public conscious in order for this to work. It's not a turn you can make on a dime.
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Aaron Rupar:
"I apologize....for nothing". In a garbage truck.
Really can't make this up, and is only going to make everybody more pissed off. Plenty of posts of "Dukakis in a tank" in replies.
He has these go-to's that he uses every single time. The frequency of them wouldn't be so bad if they didn't just come off as so hollow and tossed off.
"I do so much for them. I love them. They love me." It's demented in how kneejerk it is.
Now we've got Immortal, 200-Year Old Voodoo Master Haitians eating the cats!
Can we bring more of them over, please?
Law and Order ≠ Justice
Republicans: We will respond to animal activist videos of farm animal abuse by banning videos from farms.
Also Republicans: HaItIaNs aRe HuRtInG AnImALs!
I feel like the obvious follow up was “why did you approve a guy you know nothing about to be at your big rally? And why didn’t you vet what he was gonna say before hand?”
We already know the answer is anything bad that happens because of his campaign is someone else's fault. The buck stops with them.
Yeah that hypothetical caricature sounds fucking awesome. Would hang.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Too late.
'Oops'.
my brain is trying to fit in some kind of reference to the move "Major League" and the fact taht the Indians were in the World Series in 2016....
but i'm not quite there yet.
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You’re gonna talk smack on voodoo?
Are you absolutely 120% certain that you don’t believe in voodoo even an eentsy teensy bit?
Because if you have even the slightest bit, the tiniest hint of superstition or doubt….
Or the entire country?
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-calls-us-garbage-world-latest-anti-immigrant/story?id=115149893
(Reminder: this shitheads grandpa was an immigrant)
this
this has to be AI generated, right
That's what he means, Trump is telling an anecdote about his family history.
He was on Rich Eisen and also that one USC QB with the forehead
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Dan Le Batard's show as well.
as always, IOKIYAR.
I’m such a fucking idiot. One was passionately arguing with me, which is fair enough, he seemed genuine and was earnestly trying to get me to understand that covid was a plot, they’re killing babies, Hunter Biden’s laptop and the global cabals, do your research etc. I just started to get shaky and unwell and kept desperately arguing stupidly back at all the nonsense, not realising how upset I was gettinf
When I realised it had gotten too heated, I started apologising, but the other quieter guy wouldn’t listen and wouldn’t hear it. He said look you had your lefty rant, you interrupted us, I’m calm, you’re the one being crazy, you need to calm down, calm down, calm down, calm down etc. I kept trying to apologise because he was absolutely right I did interrupt them, and he had every right to not accept my apology and keep telling me off, while the other one seemed to accept my apology and keep trying to convince me to do my research etc
I feel so stupid and small. It made me feel like a stupid child. I was in the wrong and it just kind of broke me and as soon as they left I burst into tears, because I felt so stupid but also just it bled into every other insecurity I have about myself. And then I had to quickly try and leave without them seeing in the locker room, because I didn’t want staff to come up to me and ask why I was crying and then blame them, because I was at fault
This whole thing has just frayed my already weak will, and I was planning to use the gym to ignore reality but now I have to try and avoid them because of something I did, because of how stupid and rude I was and how weak and pathetic the guy who rightly refused to accept my apology made me feel
I want this fucking election to be over
I’m in fucking Australia too so this isn’t even US
Being calm doesnt mean shit about validity, none of it means youre wrong or whatever. Sorry you had a negative interaction. Your feelings are valid. It's okay to argue passionately. Why else have passion, if not to argue over things that govern peoples fats?
Nothing stupid or small about finding yourself in an unpleasant interaction, happens to the best of us. Sounds like you didnt yell or swear or throw anything so a 5/10 at worst.
I know all this intellectually but in the moment, and because I had interrupted them, I just felt so upset and furious with myself for getting involved and creating the situation I now have to avoid and live with, like I could feel myself making the mistake and the nerves of both the argument itself and knowing I had made this whole place awkward now
Honestly it was less the guy who was spouting all the nonsense, he seemed affable and excited, it was the one who basically looked at me like dirt and refused to let go the fact that I had interrupted them, refused to let me apologise without continually telling me to calm down and that look I interrupted them, I’m the rude one. It’s like man I’m sorry I know. Gah, i just feel so insecure and frayed
I’m 38 and I felt like a child, even tho they were probably only 10 years older than me
And yeah I didn’t yell or swear or say anything personal, I just kind of kept shooting back and talking earnestly. There was no red faces. It was just the fact that he was right that I should have minded my own business and when I realised they weren’t both side sing it I shouldn’t have kept disagreeing and making points, it just got away from me. Like yeah the other guy was super calm, but he upset me way more than the argument itself by insisting on kind of dressing me down on it and making sure to rub my nose in it. Like he was in the right and I was rude to interject, but it just rattled me and I’m not socially secure enough with myself to be able to take that kind of interaction, which is what made me even more annoyed with myself for starting the whole thing
But Thankyou to the people who messaged and sorry for derailing the thread a bit. Once the adrenaline wears off I’ll be fine, and I’ll just have to deal with the discomfort of going to the gym with him there after this happened
Yeah for sure. Hang in there! Its almost past. Polls look rosy. Shits gonna work out 8)))
As an example, one of the few times Rogan actually challenged Trump was when Trump said the fucking polio vaccine worked.
That's the kind of shit you'd need to take time learning to handle for 3 hours.
Offering Rogan an hour and he comes to you seems like something you could afford. But he's also gonna turn you down because he didn't accommodate people.