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Was sitting uncomfortable before modern chairs?

Jr.Jr. Registered User regular
I have been wondering about this, specifically how people sat comfortably before more modern chairs like cushiony armchairs and couches were invented.

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If you will notice this is a collection of different chairs one is an old couch, one is a chair the british sit in during a coronation, and two are chairs that are in art museums because they're supposedly great chairs the thing I do not understand is how people regularly sat in chairs like this. They are not comfortable chairs they are hard and the back and seat connect at a 90 degree angle which is just not a comfortable way to sit in addition there is no padding on most of these chairs and in the case of the couch there isn't much padding and it would hurt to lean back sure we have some modern chairs that are kind of similar but they're mostly just used for things like dinners where you maybe sit for 30 minutes nobody is trying to read books in these kinds of chairs or have social hour in them. How did people sit in these chairs for hours back then?

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  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I've sat in some two hundred year old chairs and some of them are on par with modern chairs and some can be very comfy! Some other suck, but then I've sat in sucky modern chairs too.

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  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    Sitting was invented in 1784 by Muhammad Sitting and chairs were thus entirely decorative beforehand.

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  • Quantum TigerQuantum Tiger Registered User regular
    Thrones are meant to be uncomfortable, it's meant to signify the seriousness of the position

    Other old chairs that have still survived hundreds of years are found in old churches, which has the same idea

  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    I guess not entirely decorative. They often served as a convenient space to keep onions for those without a dedicated onion cellar.

    But sitting in them would literally not have crossed someone's mind before that.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Sitting is the opposite of standing.

  • DouglasDouglas PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Love a jr thread

    Puritans especially loved to be miserable

  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    If you got a flat ass, absolutely.

  • Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    My ancients would simply sit in bogs, the mud and algae forming a perfect, enveloping cushion. How far we have fallen.

  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Chairs were invented because we stopped using our hips right. RETVRN TO SQVAT.

  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Love a jr thread

    Puritans especially loved to be miserable

    I will take this opportunity to plug Whit, an undeservedly obscure Iain Banks novel about a cult whose members must carry a wooden board around at all times in case the fallen, sinful world tries to make them sit on a decadent plush cushion.

  • Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    In that last post I was supposed to write ‘ancestors’. I do not have an army of ancients lying in wait, the precursor race that predates mankind and their wretched god.

  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    Yeah it sucked

  • Jr.Jr. Registered User regular
    I was actually looking into the coronation chair more that the british sit in when they get coronated because if you notice the chair is covered in graffiti according to wikipedia people used to be able to pay to sit in the chair and sometimes people would carve their initials in the chair and even steal parts of the chair as souvenirs there is something funny about a guy wearing sumptuous clothing sitting in a big hard uncomfortable chair covered in graffiti while he becomes king in a gigantic formal ceremony watched by millions

  • Jr.Jr. Registered User regular
    i did not watch it myself

  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    People had the fattest asses back then. Just bean bag chair booties as far as the eye could see.

    Pollution from the industrial revolution caused our ass genes to mutant into flatter, less comfortable rears.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I must have been heavily exposed to that pollution then.

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    I remember thinking that Paul Revere was a constantly uncomfortable person cause his furniture was small and full of right angles.

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  • DouglasDouglas PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I think furniture must have been decorative then comfortable for most of recent history.

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Love a jr thread

    Puritans especially loved to be miserable

    I will take this opportunity to plug Whit, an undeservedly obscure Iain Banks novel about a cult whose members must carry a wooden board around at all times in case the fallen, sinful world tries to make them sit on a decadent plush cushion.

    In our house Nathaniel sits on a spike!

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    I remember thinking that Paul Revere was a constantly uncomfortable person cause his furniture was small and full of right angles.

    He was a friend of the Beastie Boys or something.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    Old chairs had cushions they just didn't survive time.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    Old chairs had cushions they just didn't survive time.

    Nobody survives time.

  • Quantum TigerQuantum Tiger Registered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    Old chairs had cushions they just didn't survive time.

    Wooden chairs are the skeletons of the furniture world

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Get out of here with your "real explanations"

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  • FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    I choose to belive the big butts theory.

    Yes, with a quick verbal "boom." You take a man's peko, you deny him his dab, all that is left is to rise up and tear down the walls of Jericho with a ".....not!" -TexiKen
  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    I choose to belive the big butts theory.

    Large posterior are most desirable, and I shall not utter an untruth about them.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Famed Historian Dr. Mix-a-Lot has some theories on big butts you should read.

  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    Old chairs had cushions they just didn't survive time.

    Nobody survives time.

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  • useruser Registered User regular
    I visited Japan last year for what was mostly a walking pilgrimage between Buddhist temples, but because of the affects of the pandemic, and the big outpouring of internal tourism -- my plans for accommodation shifted from what I was expecting: hostels and hotels, towards mostly airbnbs. And that's when my friends and I experienced the concept of 'ma' -- traditional Japanese homes with the tatami mats, low tables etc... and uh, you just kinda have to sit on them, maybe you'll get a back but otherwise you're just on the floor.

    The thing is, and this was reinforced when we'd do the cultural tours of the palaces and castles that exhibited how they used to be laid out where literally only the lord would get a chair with one (1) single armrest, is that if you grow up sitting this way you're probably gonna have the natural muscle development to find it comfortable and chill. As soft westerners this wasn't us though, not in the least.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    Old chairs had cushions they just didn't survive time.

    Wooden chairs are the skeletons of the furniture world

    the bones are their money

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    My old church still has the pews from the civil war.

    The backs of the pew leaned forward and were all made from extremely tough wood. The cushions barely did anything and you felt the bones of your ass meet the hard wood.

    Basically designed to make being in church as tortious as possible. Very puritan, considering this is an Episcopal church

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  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    My understanding is that sitting was quite comfortable prior to the protestant revolution, after which is was determined to be sinful and strongly discouraged.

    That's why to this day cashiers are required to stand.

  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited October 2024
    Episcopalians are just Catholics who wanted their clergy to get married and stop doing services in Latin. They didn't want to move too far away from traditional worship!

    Ringo on
  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Episcopalians are just Catholics who wanted their clergy to get married and stop doing services in Latin. They didn't want to move too far away from traditional worship!

    that's anglicans, episcopalians are anglicans that are chill

  • PakuPaku Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Ringo wrote: »
    Episcopalians are just Catholics who wanted their clergy to get married and stop doing services in Latin. They didn't want to move too far away from traditional worship!

    that's anglicans, episcopalians are anglicans that are chill

    As a third generation Recovering-Catholic, gonna have to emphatically disagree about chillness re: Episcopalians

  • ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    The Catholic pews I sat on in my youth and during my grandmother's funeral were... solid under the ass, and the leg room was often inadequate, probably due to the knee rests. Those were comfortable, though.

    I think the point of uncomfortable pews is psychological: to build up a tolerance for discomfort, to associate spiritual goodness with tolerating discomfort and to reward submissive kneeling with relief (hence the cushioned knee rests), and maybe to encourage us pay attention to the sermon by discouraging us from enjoying our seat.

    I sometimes prefer solid, old-school chairs for sitting, but I suffer from something akin to PTSD, so I prefer hard surfaces. (I related to what Captain America said to Falcon in The Winter Soldier about mattresses being too soft.)

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    My dad's theory was that it simply stopped church goers falling asleep

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • DeansDeans Registered User regular
    Adirondack chairs are remarkably comfy for their lack of cushions. They were always a clever bit of engineering that stood out to me

  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    It'd kinda be rad to see a church that just had rows of vibrating massage chairs instead of pews.

    Might increase turn-out.

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