My favorite suggestion so far hints at vulgarity, but only if you know, and it would be the most honest name for what this is.
GDSForum.com
It doesn't directly lean into penny arcade in any way, but it is an artifact of the posting culture, and the eventual tangents needing to go find a new home.
I kinda love the shit out of this, but it probably only holds appeal for D&D folks.
Regardless, I think - and this applies to other things beyond the name - our most important consideration should be making a place that appeals to as many of the current folk as possible. Not the prospect of getting new blood, not ties to the old place, just... what makes the people here happiest? Two reasons:
First, we can't know if anyone else will ever again sign up for an account, but we can know that there are a couple thousand folks who will definitely be here. Design for the people you have, not the people you want.
And second, if there is any hope for attracting new blood, it will be in this being a fun and vibrant place that the people here obviously love. I mean, they loved it so much that they built themselves a new home when Hurricane Eviction came through and wiped out everything. If we love it, maybe other people will too. And if they don't love it, fuck 'em.
A final thought: the name of the game will be user retention, and I think for that reason we might want to place an outsized focus on the people who aren't necessarily our core of powerforumers. The 20% of the people responsible for 80% of the posts are going to be the most resilient. They'll be most likely to stick around if things aren't just right. But those other 80% are valuable too, even if they only post a couple times a day, or lurk 90% of the time. And if those 80% bail, their absence will be missed, both in financial contributions, and in the shrinking of the intangible soul that makes this place special.
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The biggest issue with Post Arcade is the PA company may not want us to have a name that close to Penny Arcade to avoid any confusion on whether or not we're still a part of that organization.
Why can't it just be paforum or something similar?, we don't have to spell out what the p and a stand for. Everyone already calls it the pa forums anyway.
Is there a reason that whenever we come up with a name for our new We Have Penny Arcade Forums At Home that we can't just run it past PA's legal department and get their sign-off? If we decide that we like "Post Arcade" or "PAForum" or whatever and have no visual branding tying us to the old place, and they tell us it's cool, we'd be good, right?
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited October 2024
I feel like Post Arcade Forums is the best suggestion so far. Works on a number of levels, a little clever, a little punny. It fits this crowd.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Is there a reason that whenever we come up with a name for our new We Have Penny Arcade Forums At Home that we can't just run it past PA's legal department and get their sign-off? If we decide that we like "Post Arcade" or "PAForum" or whatever and have no visual branding tying us to the old place, and they tell us it's cool, we'd be good, right?
Relationships are strained, as I read between the lines from the mod messages.
Also, I'm trying to get traction for Neo Arcadia here.
My favorite suggestion so far hints at vulgarity, but only if you know, and it would be the most honest name for what this is.
GDSForum.com
It doesn't directly lean into penny arcade in any way, but it is an artifact of the posting culture, and the eventual tangents needing to go find a new home.
I kinda love the shit out of this, but it probably only holds appeal for D&D folks.
Regardless, I think - and this applies to other things beyond the name - our most important consideration should be making a place that appeals to as many of the current folk as possible. Not the prospect of getting new blood, not ties to the old place, just... what makes the people here happiest? Two reasons:
First, we can't know if anyone else will ever again sign up for an account, but we can know that there are a couple thousand folks who will definitely be here. Design for the people you have, not the people you want.
And second, if there is any hope for attracting new blood, it will be in this being a fun and vibrant place that the people here obviously love. I mean, they loved it so much that they built themselves a new home when Hurricane Eviction came through and wiped out everything. If we love it, maybe other people will too. And if they don't love it, fuck 'em.
A final thought: the name of the game will be user retention, and I think for that reason we might want to place an outsized focus on the people who aren't necessarily our core of powerforumers. The 20% of the people responsible for 80% of the posts are going to be the most resilient. They'll be most likely to stick around if things aren't just right. But those other 80% are valuable too, even if they only post a couple times a day, or lurk 90% of the time. And if those 80% bail, their absence will be missed, both in financial contributions, and in the shrinking of the intangible soul that makes this place special.
Yes, I think it's important to remember that we all have different interactions with the forum and will find meaning in different discussions and events, but these are all equally valid.
Is there a reason that whenever we come up with a name for our new We Have Penny Arcade Forums At Home that we can't just run it past PA's legal department and get their sign-off? If we decide that we like "Post Arcade" or "PAForum" or whatever and have no visual branding tying us to the old place, and they tell us it's cool, we'd be good, right?
Relationships are strained, as I read between the lines from the mod messages.
Also, I'm trying to get traction for Neo Arcadia here.
Relationships aren't necessarily strained, per se, in the sense that they don't like us or wish us ill will. They just want us to stop holding the raver on their lawn and don't really care where we go. Expecting any tangible help from them might be a crapshoot, but from what I can tell (and I'm not personally involved in the conversations or anything, obviously, so this is speculation) they're not going to go out of their way to screw us or act spitefully. Such that if we have a name that kind of obliquely references PA in a way that we aren't sure about, I don't see them refusing to answer and then suing us six months later.
(I do kinda like Neo Arcadia.)
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reVerseAttack and Dethrone GodRegistered Userregular
In the spirit of PIN numbers and ATM machines, PAF Forums.
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syndalisGetting ClassyOn the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Teamregular
How do we feel about keeping the forums subdomain and leaving the root open for something not-forum, should we ever get a bug up our bonnet as a community to do things?
honestly, things wont feel the same if it isn't forums.somethingorother.com
SW-4158-3990-6116
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
realistically they'd have no standing to be upset if we used post arcade because by that point they won't have a forums for anyone to get confused about
How do we feel about keeping the forums subdomain and leaving the root open for something not-forum, should we ever get a bug up our bonnet as a community to do things?
honestly, things wont feel the same if it isn't forums.somethingorother.com
I just want a forums subdomain so 20 years of autocomplete muscle memory still works
Is there a reason that whenever we come up with a name for our new We Have Penny Arcade Forums At Home that we can't just run it past PA's legal department and get their sign-off? If we decide that we like "Post Arcade" or "PAForum" or whatever and have no visual branding tying us to the old place, and they tell us it's cool, we'd be good, right?
Legal understandings can also change with leadership and the lawyer. Unless we get it in writing, stating as such in perpetuity. Do we really want to ask for such a thing in writing, when any other forum name would be less a hassle, and we really won't be associated with PA in any way l except for the memories of some middle aged nerds?
Heck GDSForum would work quite well. Or Neo Arcadia, although my mind then turns to Neo Tokyo...
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SolyspPreviously Kane Red RobeRegistered Userregular
How do we feel about keeping the forums subdomain and leaving the root open for something not-forum, should we ever get a bug up our bonnet as a community to do things?
honestly, things wont feel the same if it isn't forums.somethingorother.com
I just want a forums subdomain so 20 years of autocomplete muscle memory still works
How do we feel about keeping the forums subdomain and leaving the root open for something not-forum, should we ever get a bug up our bonnet as a community to do things?
honestly, things wont feel the same if it isn't forums.somethingorother.com
I just want a forums subdomain so 20 years of autocomplete muscle memory still works
Since I know how forum trolls work, I've registered this domain, as you typed it out in full.
Mods: I've parked post-arcadia.com for a year, I'll transfer it whenver requested.
If we don't use it, then I'll never financially recover and will drink 1 latte less this year.
+26
SolyspPreviously Kane Red RobeRegistered Userregular
How do we feel about keeping the forums subdomain and leaving the root open for something not-forum, should we ever get a bug up our bonnet as a community to do things?
honestly, things wont feel the same if it isn't forums.somethingorother.com
I just want a forums subdomain so 20 years of autocomplete muscle memory still works
Since I know how forum trolls work, I've registered this domain, as you typed it out in full.
Mods: I've parked post-arcadia.com for a year, I'll transfer it whenver requested.
If we don't use it, then I'll never financially recover and will drink 1 latte less this year.
Argh, my bad. I never consider hostile actions. DM me a way to and I'll re-imburse you if it comes to that. I can't be responsible for someone missing a latte 😔
How do we feel about keeping the forums subdomain and leaving the root open for something not-forum, should we ever get a bug up our bonnet as a community to do things?
honestly, things wont feel the same if it isn't forums.somethingorother.com
I just want a forums subdomain so 20 years of autocomplete muscle memory still works
Since I know how forum trolls work, I've registered this domain, as you typed it out in full.
Mods: I've parked post-arcadia.com for a year, I'll transfer it whenver requested.
If we don't use it, then I'll never financially recover and will drink 1 latte less this year.
Argh, my bad. I never consider hostile actions. DM me a way to and I'll re-imburse you if it comes to that. I can't be responsible for someone missing a latte 😔
Well, now I can finally say
"Damnit Red! do you know how much that cost me!"
There... consider yourself shamed and even, as I don't have the guts to say that to most people nicknamed "Red"
But yeah, no worries, it happens.
Request for clarification: is there a parallel, secret mod discussion planning this all out? Or is all planning happening in the future state subforum?
We are talking about things in the mod forum but we're sharing whatever we come up with as we do so, we haven't come up with much other than what you see here in this subforum.
How do we feel about keeping the forums subdomain and leaving the root open for something not-forum, should we ever get a bug up our bonnet as a community to do things?
honestly, things wont feel the same if it isn't forums.somethingorother.com
I just want a forums subdomain so 20 years of autocomplete muscle memory still works
As random trivia the forum's banlist currently has 21,546 accounts on it.
With one particularly dedicated troll being, what, 20% of those?
Which raises the question, since we're on the topic; how many accounts does the forum have total? Banned, active, inactive, everything?
That one guy's made 131 alts (so far). There are currently 200,139 accounts registered. A bunch of those are probably also inactive bots, but I couldn't guess at the distribution right now.
We are talking about things in the mod forum but we're sharing whatever we come up with as we do so, we haven't come up with much other than what you see here in this subforum.
There’s good energy here and people want to start doing. If somebody wants a green light to, for example, set up a project management tool:
Who should they reach out to get a green light and avoid duplication of effort?
Maybe whatever gets a green light (even if it ends up bad and has to be scrapped later) could be added to the announcement thread so that people can follow what is happening.
We are talking about things in the mod forum but we're sharing whatever we come up with as we do so, we haven't come up with much other than what you see here in this subforum.
There’s good energy here and people want to start doing. If somebody wants a green light to, for example, set up a project management tool:
Who should they reach out to get a green light and avoid duplication of effort?
Maybe whatever gets a green light (even if it ends up bad and has to be scrapped later) could be added to the announcement thread so that people can follow what is happening.
I’m off to bed now, but I can set this up tomorrow morning if there is some kind of ok
131 alts is a serious level of commitment to whatever crusade that is.
There's a group of people called Wikipedia cryptids. People who make tiny, bizarre edits with a level of dedication that's boggling. The one that stuck with me was a user who specifically fudged facts about rappers and dog breeds exclusively, mixed with thousands of perfectly legitimate and helpful edits. For no reason anyone could figure out.
Has anyone discussed a place for uploading any planning documents we come up with? I imagine we need something secure for the transmission of anything like user profiles or whatever, but a communal place to keep things like art files, project management documents, stuff like that.
I imagine we want everything to be as communally accessible as possible, so if a key member of the team dies or ghosts or something, we don't lose access to all their work.
Would you say I had a plethora of pinatas?
Legos are cool, MOCs are cool, check me out on Rebrickable!
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I kinda love the shit out of this, but it probably only holds appeal for D&D folks.
Regardless, I think - and this applies to other things beyond the name - our most important consideration should be making a place that appeals to as many of the current folk as possible. Not the prospect of getting new blood, not ties to the old place, just... what makes the people here happiest? Two reasons:
First, we can't know if anyone else will ever again sign up for an account, but we can know that there are a couple thousand folks who will definitely be here. Design for the people you have, not the people you want.
And second, if there is any hope for attracting new blood, it will be in this being a fun and vibrant place that the people here obviously love. I mean, they loved it so much that they built themselves a new home when Hurricane Eviction came through and wiped out everything. If we love it, maybe other people will too. And if they don't love it, fuck 'em.
A final thought: the name of the game will be user retention, and I think for that reason we might want to place an outsized focus on the people who aren't necessarily our core of powerforumers. The 20% of the people responsible for 80% of the posts are going to be the most resilient. They'll be most likely to stick around if things aren't just right. But those other 80% are valuable too, even if they only post a couple times a day, or lurk 90% of the time. And if those 80% bail, their absence will be missed, both in financial contributions, and in the shrinking of the intangible soul that makes this place special.
Legos are cool, MOCs are cool, check me out on Rebrickable!
Why can't it just be paforum or something similar?, we don't have to spell out what the p and a stand for. Everyone already calls it the pa forums anyway.
Legos are cool, MOCs are cool, check me out on Rebrickable!
Relationships are strained, as I read between the lines from the mod messages.
Also, I'm trying to get traction for Neo Arcadia here.
Yes, I think it's important to remember that we all have different interactions with the forum and will find meaning in different discussions and events, but these are all equally valid.
Relationships aren't necessarily strained, per se, in the sense that they don't like us or wish us ill will. They just want us to stop holding the raver on their lawn and don't really care where we go. Expecting any tangible help from them might be a crapshoot, but from what I can tell (and I'm not personally involved in the conversations or anything, obviously, so this is speculation) they're not going to go out of their way to screw us or act spitefully. Such that if we have a name that kind of obliquely references PA in a way that we aren't sure about, I don't see them refusing to answer and then suing us six months later.
(I do kinda like Neo Arcadia.)
Legos are cool, MOCs are cool, check me out on Rebrickable!
honestly, things wont feel the same if it isn't forums.somethingorother.com
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
like 99%+ bots
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
You can't use that though.
It'd have to be PaulChristoforoPenny-arcade.com
Please help my sick dog
Or if the Neo is too neogaf vibes maybe just arcadia
Forums for Neo Arcadia Forums.
I just want a forums subdomain so 20 years of autocomplete muscle memory still works
Legal understandings can also change with leadership and the lawyer. Unless we get it in writing, stating as such in perpetuity. Do we really want to ask for such a thing in writing, when any other forum name would be less a hassle, and we really won't be associated with PA in any way l except for the memories of some middle aged nerds?
Heck GDSForum would work quite well. Or Neo Arcadia, although my mind then turns to Neo Tokyo...
https://forums.post-arcadia.com
Since I know how forum trolls work, I've registered this domain, as you typed it out in full.
Mods: I've parked post-arcadia.com for a year, I'll transfer it whenver requested.
If we don't use it, then I'll never financially recover and will drink 1 latte less this year.
Argh, my bad. I never consider hostile actions. DM me a way to and I'll re-imburse you if it comes to that. I can't be responsible for someone missing a latte 😔
Well, now I can finally say
"Damnit Red! do you know how much that cost me!"
There... consider yourself shamed and even, as I don't have the guts to say that to most people nicknamed "Red"
But yeah, no worries, it happens.
Surely, this won’t be confused for any other acronym out there of a popular IP.
MHWilds ID: JF9LL8L3
I mean, people were talking about ideas to bring in new users.
So my idea to name the new forum FREE-ROBUX.COM is looking pretty good now, huh?
Slightly old yet welcoming hangout place. Suggests a bit of history and patina. Just saying you all!
I appreciate your commitment to the hyphen
As a rough ballpark I'd say 95-98% are bots or obvious spammers.
That one guy's made 131 alts (so far). There are currently 200,139 accounts registered. A bunch of those are probably also inactive bots, but I couldn't guess at the distribution right now.
There’s good energy here and people want to start doing. If somebody wants a green light to, for example, set up a project management tool:
Who should they reach out to get a green light and avoid duplication of effort?
Maybe whatever gets a green light (even if it ends up bad and has to be scrapped later) could be added to the announcement thread so that people can follow what is happening.
I’m off to bed now, but I can set this up tomorrow morning if there is some kind of ok
There's a group of people called Wikipedia cryptids. People who make tiny, bizarre edits with a level of dedication that's boggling. The one that stuck with me was a user who specifically fudged facts about rappers and dog breeds exclusively, mixed with thousands of perfectly legitimate and helpful edits. For no reason anyone could figure out.
Some people are just weird.
I wonder if it was that one guy who really had strong feelings about The Papacy
Neo Arcadia sounds like we're trying to spin up a forumer org for Anarchy Online
We could probably start an inquisition about this.
I imagine we want everything to be as communally accessible as possible, so if a key member of the team dies or ghosts or something, we don't lose access to all their work.
Legos are cool, MOCs are cool, check me out on Rebrickable!
That's a good forum name.
Inquisitions Incorporated