There's three of us
There's three of us
Look closely, you will see
There's three of us
Just three of us
There's him, and you, and she
And everyday we all hang out
To find out what you'll vote about
And every day's a new surprise
when you're voting for us guyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moxIc-_PdzgTHREAD RULES
Being an election thread, the thread is only here if everyone can behave themselves. The rules are a bit different from standard fare to try and keep things from descending into shitfests.
1. If you feel someone is arguing in bad faith, then report them. We don't need a 10-person dogpile clogging up the thread to prove that. Also please provide context for your reports, because it's not always obvious and I don't have everyone's history memorized.
2. If you stir up stupid forum rivalry then I will just ban you from the thread. This goes both ways, but I will be especially annoyed at people who are clearly bumbling in here trying to start shit.
3. No Electoralism, period. Do not lecture people on how they vote; it's not going to change the general thrust of American politics dramatically either way. Mankind is dead. Blood is fuel. Hell is full.
4. You are free to still criticize a campaign's strategy. If you wanna say maybe Harris needs to promote a little baby eating to get the necessary votes to avoid the most embarrassing fascism, then go for it.
5. Report any bigotry, and please do not engage with those kinds of posts. If you feel something is being masked behind a dogwhistle or other plausible, then
please use your report to explain why you feel it's hate speech. Racists and other assholes are developing new and stupid shibboleths at frightful speed thanks to social media, and it can be difficult to keep up. Err on the side of being more informative than less.
6. No Doomsday talk. Shit sucks and panicking doesn't help things. Now
shitposting is excepted if you're funny enough.
7. I reserve the right to pull the plug on this thread if you all manage to generate more reports than D&D.
Joe "Loan on the Range" Biden
President of the United States
Old
Pros: He's not Trump, so he'll continue the extremely slow wheel of progress in some areas, while simply offering neoliberal compromise on other issues like foreign policy.
Cons: Inflation is still rampant, and he's going to be blamed for it because he can't admit corporations are discussing price hikes as inflationary increases. That's capitalism, baby! He also is having severe issues courting the left, as he tries half-assed methods to alleviate student loan debt and tries juggling issues like the Palestinian genocide. Turns out saying genocide is bad but giving your buddy a check to keep doing a genocide is not a great look for like...anyone on either side. It's not helping that his age is a constant issue, and him just appearing tired or tripping over his words only exacerbates the issue. You can make excuses, but "it's his stutter" is not swaying people these days. His abysmal debate with Trump has only exacerbated the issue, with many prominent Dems now deciding whoopsie he needs to go. Train fetish could be a detriment if the Thomas the Tank/Amtrak fics ever leak to the public.Kamala “Girlboss Gatekeep Genocide” HarrisVice-President of the United States
Sixty Years OldPros: Has gotten a wellspring of support and general good vibes by not being a decrepit white man. Can give a coherent speech and offers a bit more enthusiasm for people to rally around. Got shitloads of donations from everyone to relieved people and relieved megadonors. Gets a pseudo-incumbency advantage by being part of the current administration, and will be able to inherit Biden’s warchest. Is outspending the Trump campaign by a fairly serious margin, being tied up in PA and outspending him practically everywhere else. Something something joy.
Cons: Has been part of the current administration during iffy economic times. Jobs are good, but inflation is bad and people tend to just blame the current administration. The liberal urge to be a diet fascist has kicked in, which includes being wishy-washy on more left-leaning policy and courting ghouls like the Cheneys. This makes her platform frustratingly squishy and lacking in substance. And of course this also applies to the Middle East, where she's basically deciding between sending more bombs or all the bombs to Israel so Bibi can ensure every living thing in Gaza is reduced to atoms. This has caused a considerable schism among would-be democratic voters, particularly among Muslims who find her commitment to a ceasefire maaaaaay not be all that compelling considering in the same speech she considers the IDF's need to slaughter Gazan children as "self-defense". Basically, a cop in a pussy hat.
Donald "The Trashman" TrumpFormer President of the United States
Seventy-Eight Years OldPros: Economy is still not great, and post-Covid chaos could show him as a nostalgic calmer period before now...so long as you ignore Covid starting under his term but voters never had good memory! The strongman personae also has considerable swing with a depressing percentage of the electorate. Has a whole media machine at his back to spin lies into campaign issues. Racism and cruelty always sell.
Cons: Dude has never won the popular vote, and relying on our shitty electoral system for victory is not where you want your campaign strategy to start. Is in court for a number of crimes, and he's paying for it through campaign contributions. On a related note, he has a very meager ground game and is being outspent 2:1 or more by Harris in every state outside of PA and NC. While more animated than Biden, he's showing fatigue: falling asleep in public, tripping over his words more than usual, and other flubs that will now put a spotlight on his age with Biden gone. The
second first debate did not go well for him, with him ranting racist lies about immigrants eating pets. The abortion issue is a tight needle to thread, as he risks galvanizing pro-choice voters by leaning too hard into anti-abortion rhetoric, or he risks alienating the anti-choice by not leaning hard enough. Given how Dobbs is largely attributed to turning the midterms into an embarrassment for Republicans and causing state/local losses in the off-season, this again is not a good position to be in. Held a Nazi rally a week prior to the election, because he couldn't keep a lid on the watermelon jokes for another few days. Low energy.
Battlegrounds
This is the big one. While both candidates can win without it, you're talking an uphill battle. It also takes longer to count the votes as it allows fairly last-minute mail-in ballots, so barring a blowout expect to wait a few days to learn the winner!
There's others, namely North Carolina, Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, Nevada, Wisconsin, and the Big Bopper, but it's all second banana to PA. Go vote or eat a sandwich or make a funny post.
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And, as always, fuck the police.
pretty well specced out here
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/20/trump-overturn-2024-election-plan-00184103?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
unless harris wins by substantial margins this thing is at least going to court, and, well, you can read the rest
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
If you would be so kind as to close the lid after I get in?
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Polls were fucked in 2016 and 2020. Polls were fucked in OTHER ways in 2018. Polls were fucked in a DIFFERENT way in 2022. Time will only tell on this one, but 2024's story seems to be "HORSE RACE" and weird-as-shit weightings of urban/suburban/rural voters. The long and short of it is people don't answer their phones anymore and polling itself is broken.
Similarly, don't pay attention to ballot counts. Yes, some county somewhere has x number of absentee ballots out and ooh boy Y% of them are people between the age of 22.5 and 26 and THIS MEANS THINGS.
There actually can be info to be parsed from all the above, but the effort is meaningless - even if your extrapolation is right a) would you do anything different, and b) you're not employed by a campaign so it's not your job to have this bullshit.
All you're doing is stressing yourself out. Don't.
Also this entire post is directed at me because if i say it enough times maybe I'll actually believe it and stick to it.
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Yeah, dropping mine off in the morning. Split ticket with Dem and Progressive since we have a functioning Progressive party in Vermont.
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Then as I was walking away I hear him say ‘wait, fascists! We’re not fascists, dangit’
Also got to clarify some voting procedure stuff for people which always feels good.
I mean, it's not. It's utterly horrific that this is the reality in which we find ourselves.
But
if that's how it's gonna be at least we can appreciate clever ways of acknowledging it.
Steam: Chagrin LoL: Bonhomie
How is this legal
SC has a truly depressing ballot. The only dem candidates for anything are the presidency. Everything else is republican or write in.
So, since my actual vote doesn't matter and this election will once again come down to a few states I've never lived in, I'm mostly going to vote against this bullshit:
They are literally changing one word: every to only. It's, at its most generous, performance politics meant to make the chittering, pearl clutching little Fox News gibbons hoop and holler and fling their shit. But really it's about incrementally changing the language to be exclusionary in an attempt to broaden the definition of who can't vote. Because the GOP's game plan is basically win by disqualification.
Love the American democratic process.
There was a lot of bond issues up as well as they do not print the party affiliation on the ballot [they do a TLDR of the bond issue but leave out all the lawyer wet dream aspects of it}
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I thought you were in NC!
I'm also crossing my fingers on the six....fucking.....six ballot initiatives in Nebraska this year, including some really confusing language on an anti-abortion measure (434) and abortion rights measure (439). The signs people put in their yards to vote for or against either do not bother to tell you which one is which. I fucking hate it.
I'm not holding my breath on most of the other races. Ricketts is gonna win, as are R's for the House. Would love to see Adrian Smith eat shit sometime, I've done my best to heckle him in person and tell people his phone doesn't work and he doesn't care about his constituents, the few times he's been in my town. Like, seriously, you cannot call him. For the entirety of his time in office, his phones flatly do not work.
No! I'm in the more souther one
So I usually just go straight Working Families Party. I side-eye any Democrat not on their ticket, and think extra hard about that race.
Unfortunately Chicago has like 90 judges on the ballot so it's gonna take foreverr
This isn’t a healthy way to democracy huh
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Define annoying because…..
interesting times and all that
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