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[UAP Disclosure] Imagine what you'll know, tomorrow
Local H Jay
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UAP and Non Human Intelligence
"[...] Sunlight’s the greatest disinfectant. Lots of people say, “they're disclosing it because they know something that we don't know.” Well, let [the whistleblowers] disclose it and we'll all know the truth and we'll be better off with the truth."
"I'm for the sunlight. And let's see what happens." - Sen Majority Leader Chuck Schumer
https://x.com/SenSchumer/status/1735006291808969029
Sen. Leader Chuck Schumer
https://youtu.be/sMD7xcGj8Co?si=ImNW4nw9J7ZYHzjw
Whistleblower Comments
What is a UAP?
Any object operating or judged capable of operating in outer-space, the atmosphere, ocean surfaces, or undersea lacking prosaic attribution due to performance characteristics and properties not previously known to be achievable based upon commonly accepted physical principles.
Unidentified anomalous phenomena are differentiated from both attributed and temporarily non-attributed objects by one or more of the following observables:
(i) Instantaneous acceleration absent apparent inertia.
(ii) Hypersonic velocity absent a thermal signature and sonic shockwave.
(iii) Transmedium (such as space-to-ground and air-to- undersea) travel.
(iv) Positive lift contrary to known aerodynamic principles.
(v) Multispectral signature control.
(vi) Physical or invasive biological effects to close observers and the environment.
The term "unidentified anomalous phenomena'' includes what were previously described as:
(i) flying discs;
(ii) flying saucers;
(iii) unidentified aerial phenomena;
(iv) unidentified flying objects (UFOs); and
(v) unidentified submerged objects (USOs).
A brief Timeline of Events
https://www.disclosurediaries.com/timeline/
^this timeline has sources, and the last two years of updates as well towards the bottom
Also, a not so brief Timeline
What's Next?
In December of 2023, the original UAPDA amendment language was stripped down considerably by a conference committee. In light of this, the original sponsors of the bill – Sens. Chuck Schumer and Mike Rounds – held a scripted colloquy on the Senate floor. These are some notable quotes:
Sen. Schumer: The United States government has gathered a great deal of information about UAPs over many decades but has refused to share it with the American people. That is wrong and additionally breeds mistrust.
We have also been notified by multiple credible sources that information on UAPs has also been withheld from Congress, which if true is a violation of laws requiring full notification to the legislative branch – especially as it relates to the four congressional leaders, the defense committees, and the intelligence committee.
Sen. Rounds: [...]the most significant shortcomings that I think we need to visit about as well, shortcomings of the conference committee agreement that are now being voted on were the rejection, first of all, of a government-wide review board composed of expert citizens, presidentially appointed and Senate confirmed, to control the process of reviewing the records and recommending to the President what records should be released immediately or postponed, and a requirement as a transparency measure for the government to obtain any recovered UAP material or biological remains that may have been provided to private entities in the past and thereby hidden from Congress and the American people. We are lacking oversight opportunities, and we are not fulfilling our responsibilities."
Currently, a 2024 version of the UAP Disclosure Act is being evaluated, but it will likely once again be watered down if not outright gutted.
There is a congressional hearing scheduled for this coming Nov, with first hand witnesses supposedly in attendance.
UAP transparency is a theme that neutrals, skeptics and believers alike can all rally behind. We need less stigma, better (and more) data, and a more open approach to the discourse.
To that end – for US citizens – I highly recommend the following websites:
https://declassifyuap.org/
https://www.uapcaucus.com/
Please, write your representatives. This is a uniquely bipartisan issue.
Links for US Citizens:
https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
https://declassifyuap.org/action/
https://www.uapcaucus.com/enduapsecrecy
Resources
https://www.disclosurediaries.com/
^much of this OP is sourced from here, wealth of information and weekly updates
https://mufon.com/
https://nuforc.org/
https://www.metabunk.org/home/
https://www.nicap.org/
https://www.uapexpedition.org/
https://www.aaro.mil/
https://www.academia.edu/43868466/UFOs_and_Intelligence_A_Timeline_By_George_M_Eberhart
^900 page PDF of UFO timeline, going back decades
https://archive.org/details/bluebook
US National Archive full Blue Book report containing 10,000+ cases. 21gb.
UAP Gerb
https://youtu.be/EKEZ2BClIb0?si=x1P5_uZkN5o-Jt4c
Incredible, fully sourced channel full of information on the topic^
https://youtu.be/wANK4ZT_LYo?si=zDHQLVhzIZ5Fd_Es
^Eyes on Cinema is an archive of UFO videos, interviews and documentaries. Amazing stuff in here
https://youtu.be/Rpl0FrdJWfs?si=8dNo7COqvF8N5Ezo
^Karl Nell's SALT conference interview
https://youtu.be/ZSj7QsHRxHQ?si=60VGbWDYDhQupEKT
^NewsNation is a news org that also covers UAP news and has Ross Coulthart as a special correspondent, well known for his work in the UAP field
https://youtu.be/wgM5V44eQHU?si=pXUNUjf4KVAoNLzs
Further Reading
This OP is a work in progress, I'll be adding to it as I remember important stuff. Thank you in advance for not mocking me, and others, who take this topic seriously.
"[...] Sunlight’s the greatest disinfectant. Lots of people say, “they're disclosing it because they know something that we don't know.” Well, let [the whistleblowers] disclose it and we'll all know the truth and we'll be better off with the truth."
"I'm for the sunlight. And let's see what happens." - Sen Majority Leader Chuck Schumer
https://x.com/SenSchumer/status/1735006291808969029
Sen. Leader Chuck Schumer
https://youtu.be/sMD7xcGj8Co?si=ImNW4nw9J7ZYHzjwWhistleblower Comments
What is a UAP?
Any object operating or judged capable of operating in outer-space, the atmosphere, ocean surfaces, or undersea lacking prosaic attribution due to performance characteristics and properties not previously known to be achievable based upon commonly accepted physical principles.
Unidentified anomalous phenomena are differentiated from both attributed and temporarily non-attributed objects by one or more of the following observables:
(i) Instantaneous acceleration absent apparent inertia.
(ii) Hypersonic velocity absent a thermal signature and sonic shockwave.
(iii) Transmedium (such as space-to-ground and air-to- undersea) travel.
(iv) Positive lift contrary to known aerodynamic principles.
(v) Multispectral signature control.
(vi) Physical or invasive biological effects to close observers and the environment.
The term "unidentified anomalous phenomena'' includes what were previously described as:
(i) flying discs;
(ii) flying saucers;
(iii) unidentified aerial phenomena;
(iv) unidentified flying objects (UFOs); and
(v) unidentified submerged objects (USOs).
A brief Timeline of Events
https://www.disclosurediaries.com/timeline/
^this timeline has sources, and the last two years of updates as well towards the bottom
Also, a not so brief Timeline
Local H Jay wrote: »https://ufotimeline.com/
A new, more in depth UFO timeline project started by some redditors with information going back to 1561
What's Next?
In December of 2023, the original UAPDA amendment language was stripped down considerably by a conference committee. In light of this, the original sponsors of the bill – Sens. Chuck Schumer and Mike Rounds – held a scripted colloquy on the Senate floor. These are some notable quotes:
Sen. Schumer: The United States government has gathered a great deal of information about UAPs over many decades but has refused to share it with the American people. That is wrong and additionally breeds mistrust.
We have also been notified by multiple credible sources that information on UAPs has also been withheld from Congress, which if true is a violation of laws requiring full notification to the legislative branch – especially as it relates to the four congressional leaders, the defense committees, and the intelligence committee.
Sen. Rounds: [...]the most significant shortcomings that I think we need to visit about as well, shortcomings of the conference committee agreement that are now being voted on were the rejection, first of all, of a government-wide review board composed of expert citizens, presidentially appointed and Senate confirmed, to control the process of reviewing the records and recommending to the President what records should be released immediately or postponed, and a requirement as a transparency measure for the government to obtain any recovered UAP material or biological remains that may have been provided to private entities in the past and thereby hidden from Congress and the American people. We are lacking oversight opportunities, and we are not fulfilling our responsibilities."
Currently, a 2024 version of the UAP Disclosure Act is being evaluated, but it will likely once again be watered down if not outright gutted.
There is a congressional hearing scheduled for this coming Nov, with first hand witnesses supposedly in attendance.
UAP transparency is a theme that neutrals, skeptics and believers alike can all rally behind. We need less stigma, better (and more) data, and a more open approach to the discourse.
To that end – for US citizens – I highly recommend the following websites:
https://declassifyuap.org/
https://www.uapcaucus.com/
Please, write your representatives. This is a uniquely bipartisan issue.
Links for US Citizens:
https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
https://declassifyuap.org/action/
https://www.uapcaucus.com/enduapsecrecy
Resources
https://www.disclosurediaries.com/
^much of this OP is sourced from here, wealth of information and weekly updates
https://mufon.com/
https://nuforc.org/
https://www.metabunk.org/home/
https://www.nicap.org/
https://www.uapexpedition.org/
https://www.aaro.mil/
https://www.academia.edu/43868466/UFOs_and_Intelligence_A_Timeline_By_George_M_Eberhart
^900 page PDF of UFO timeline, going back decades
https://archive.org/details/bluebook
US National Archive full Blue Book report containing 10,000+ cases. 21gb.
UAP Gerb
https://youtu.be/EKEZ2BClIb0?si=x1P5_uZkN5o-Jt4cIncredible, fully sourced channel full of information on the topic^
https://youtu.be/wANK4ZT_LYo?si=zDHQLVhzIZ5Fd_Es^Eyes on Cinema is an archive of UFO videos, interviews and documentaries. Amazing stuff in here
https://youtu.be/Rpl0FrdJWfs?si=8dNo7COqvF8N5Ezo^Karl Nell's SALT conference interview
https://youtu.be/ZSj7QsHRxHQ?si=60VGbWDYDhQupEKT^NewsNation is a news org that also covers UAP news and has Ross Coulthart as a special correspondent, well known for his work in the UAP field
https://youtu.be/wgM5V44eQHU?si=pXUNUjf4KVAoNLzsFurther Reading
Whitley Strieber*
1. Communion: A True Story*
2. Transformation: The Breakthrough
3. Breakthrough: The Next Step
4. The Secret School: Preparation for Contact*
5. Confirmation: The Hard Evidence of Aliens Among Us?
Budd Hopkins*
1. Witnessed: The True Story of the Brooklyn Bridge UFO
Abductions*
2. Intruders: The Incredible Visitations at Copley Woods*
3. Missing Time: A Documented Study of UFO Abductions*
John E. Mack*
1. Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens
2. Passport to the Cosmos: Human Transformation and Alien Encounters
David M. Jacobs*
1. Secret Life: Firsthand Accounts of UFO Abductions
2. The Threat: Revealing the Secret Alien Agenda
3. UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the Borders of Knowledge
4. Walking Among Us: The Alien Plan to Control Humanity
Nick Pope*
1. Encounter in Rendlesham Forest: The Inside Story of the World's Best Documented UFO Incident co-authored by John Burroughs & Jim Penniston
2. Open Skies, Closed Minds: Official Reactions to the UFO Phenomenon*
3. The Uninvited: An Expose of the Alien Abduction Phenomenon
Philip J. Corso
1. The Day After Roswell co-authored by William J. Birnes*
Richard M. Dolan
1. UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Cover Up 1941-1973
2. UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Cover Up 1973-1991
3. The Secret Space Program and Breakaway Civilization
4. UFOs for the 21st Century Mind: A Fresh Guide to an Ancient Mystery
Raymond E. Fowler
1. UFOs: Interplanetary Visitors: A UFO Investigator Reports on the Facts, Fables and Fantasies of the Flying Saucer Conspiracy
2. The Andreasson Affair
3. The Andreasson Affair, Phase Two
4. The Watchers
5. The Watchers II: Exploring UFOs and the Near Death Experience
6. The Allagash Abductions: Undeniable Evidence of Alien Intervention
7. UFO Testament: Anatomy of an Abductee
Linda Moulton Howe
1. Alien Harvest: Further Evidence Linking Animal Mutilation and Human Abductions to Alien Life Forms
2. Glimpses of Other Realities. Vol 1: Facts & Eyewitnesses
3. Glimpses of Other Realities: Vol 2: High Strangeness
4. Mysterious Lights & Crop Circles
J. Allen Hynek*
1. The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry
2. The Edge of Reality. Two Scientists Evaluate What We Know of the UFO Phenomenon co-authored by Jacques Vallee
3. The Hynek UFO Report
4. Night Seige: The Hudson Valley UFO Sightings
Jim Marrs*
1. Alien Agenda: Investigating the Extraterrestrial Presence Among Us
2. Our Occulted History: Do the Global Elite Conceal Ancient Aliens?
Jacques Vallee
1. Wonders in the Sky: Unexplained Aerial Objects from Antiquity to Modern Times
2. Revelations: Alien Contact and Human Deception
3. Confrontations: A Scientist's Search for Alien Contact
4. Dimensions: A Case Book of Alien Contact
5. Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers
6. Anatomy of a Phenomenon
7. The Invisible College: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influence on the Human Race
8. Challenge to Science The UFO Enigma
9. Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults
Stanton T. Friedman*
1. Crash at Corona: The U.S. Military Retrieval and Cover Up of a UFO
2. Top Secret/MAJIC
3. Flying Saucers and Science: A Scientist Investigates the
Mysteries of Ufos: Interstellar Travel, Crashes, and Government Cover-Ups
4. Captured! The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience, Co-author Kathleen Marden.
5. Fact, Fiction, and Flying Saucers. Co-author Kathleen Marden.
Karla Turner*
1. Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda*
2. Into the Fringe: A True Story of Alien Abduction*
Luis Elizondo*
1. Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs
Ingo Swann*
1. Penetration: The Question of Extraterrestrial and Human Telepathy
Miscellaneous:
• Dark Object: The World's Only Documented UFO Crash by Don Ledger & Chris Styles*
• The Roswell UFO Crash: What They Don't Want You to Know by Kal
K. Korff*
• Dreamland: Travels Inside the Secret World of Roswell & Area 51
by Phil Patton Witness to Roswell: Unmasking the Governments Biggest Cover Up by Thomas J. Carey co-authored with Donald R. Schmitt & Edgar
D. Mitchell*
• Abductions & Aliens: What's Really Going On? by Chris A. Rutkowski co-authored with John Robert Colombo*
• Unsolved UFO Mysteries: The Worlds Most Compelling Cases of Alien Encounters by William J. Birnes co-authored with Harold Burt*
• Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind: Alien Abduction, UFOs, and the Conference at M.I. T. by C.D.B. Bryan***
• Aliens in America: A UFO Hunter's Guide to Extraterrestrial
Hotspots Across the US by William J. Birnes • UFOs, ETs, and Alien Abductions: A Scientist Looks at the Evidence by Don Crosbie Donderi*
The UFO Enigma: A New Review of the Physical Evidence by Peter
A. Sturrock
1. Communion: A True Story*
2. Transformation: The Breakthrough
3. Breakthrough: The Next Step
4. The Secret School: Preparation for Contact*
5. Confirmation: The Hard Evidence of Aliens Among Us?
Budd Hopkins*
1. Witnessed: The True Story of the Brooklyn Bridge UFO
Abductions*
2. Intruders: The Incredible Visitations at Copley Woods*
3. Missing Time: A Documented Study of UFO Abductions*
John E. Mack*
1. Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens
2. Passport to the Cosmos: Human Transformation and Alien Encounters
David M. Jacobs*
1. Secret Life: Firsthand Accounts of UFO Abductions
2. The Threat: Revealing the Secret Alien Agenda
3. UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the Borders of Knowledge
4. Walking Among Us: The Alien Plan to Control Humanity
Nick Pope*
1. Encounter in Rendlesham Forest: The Inside Story of the World's Best Documented UFO Incident co-authored by John Burroughs & Jim Penniston
2. Open Skies, Closed Minds: Official Reactions to the UFO Phenomenon*
3. The Uninvited: An Expose of the Alien Abduction Phenomenon
Philip J. Corso
1. The Day After Roswell co-authored by William J. Birnes*
Richard M. Dolan
1. UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Cover Up 1941-1973
2. UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Cover Up 1973-1991
3. The Secret Space Program and Breakaway Civilization
4. UFOs for the 21st Century Mind: A Fresh Guide to an Ancient Mystery
Raymond E. Fowler
1. UFOs: Interplanetary Visitors: A UFO Investigator Reports on the Facts, Fables and Fantasies of the Flying Saucer Conspiracy
2. The Andreasson Affair
3. The Andreasson Affair, Phase Two
4. The Watchers
5. The Watchers II: Exploring UFOs and the Near Death Experience
6. The Allagash Abductions: Undeniable Evidence of Alien Intervention
7. UFO Testament: Anatomy of an Abductee
Linda Moulton Howe
1. Alien Harvest: Further Evidence Linking Animal Mutilation and Human Abductions to Alien Life Forms
2. Glimpses of Other Realities. Vol 1: Facts & Eyewitnesses
3. Glimpses of Other Realities: Vol 2: High Strangeness
4. Mysterious Lights & Crop Circles
J. Allen Hynek*
1. The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry
2. The Edge of Reality. Two Scientists Evaluate What We Know of the UFO Phenomenon co-authored by Jacques Vallee
3. The Hynek UFO Report
4. Night Seige: The Hudson Valley UFO Sightings
Jim Marrs*
1. Alien Agenda: Investigating the Extraterrestrial Presence Among Us
2. Our Occulted History: Do the Global Elite Conceal Ancient Aliens?
Jacques Vallee
1. Wonders in the Sky: Unexplained Aerial Objects from Antiquity to Modern Times
2. Revelations: Alien Contact and Human Deception
3. Confrontations: A Scientist's Search for Alien Contact
4. Dimensions: A Case Book of Alien Contact
5. Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers
6. Anatomy of a Phenomenon
7. The Invisible College: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influence on the Human Race
8. Challenge to Science The UFO Enigma
9. Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults
Stanton T. Friedman*
1. Crash at Corona: The U.S. Military Retrieval and Cover Up of a UFO
2. Top Secret/MAJIC
3. Flying Saucers and Science: A Scientist Investigates the
Mysteries of Ufos: Interstellar Travel, Crashes, and Government Cover-Ups
4. Captured! The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience, Co-author Kathleen Marden.
5. Fact, Fiction, and Flying Saucers. Co-author Kathleen Marden.
Karla Turner*
1. Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda*
2. Into the Fringe: A True Story of Alien Abduction*
Luis Elizondo*
1. Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs
Ingo Swann*
1. Penetration: The Question of Extraterrestrial and Human Telepathy
Miscellaneous:
• Dark Object: The World's Only Documented UFO Crash by Don Ledger & Chris Styles*
• The Roswell UFO Crash: What They Don't Want You to Know by Kal
K. Korff*
• Dreamland: Travels Inside the Secret World of Roswell & Area 51
by Phil Patton Witness to Roswell: Unmasking the Governments Biggest Cover Up by Thomas J. Carey co-authored with Donald R. Schmitt & Edgar
D. Mitchell*
• Abductions & Aliens: What's Really Going On? by Chris A. Rutkowski co-authored with John Robert Colombo*
• Unsolved UFO Mysteries: The Worlds Most Compelling Cases of Alien Encounters by William J. Birnes co-authored with Harold Burt*
• Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind: Alien Abduction, UFOs, and the Conference at M.I. T. by C.D.B. Bryan***
• Aliens in America: A UFO Hunter's Guide to Extraterrestrial
Hotspots Across the US by William J. Birnes • UFOs, ETs, and Alien Abductions: A Scientist Looks at the Evidence by Don Crosbie Donderi*
The UFO Enigma: A New Review of the Physical Evidence by Peter
A. Sturrock
This OP is a work in progress, I'll be adding to it as I remember important stuff. Thank you in advance for not mocking me, and others, who take this topic seriously.
Local H Jay on
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Posts
https://archive.org/details/bluebook
Full, 10,000 case report available here
And some more for those who want to dig in deeper. Almost all these records have been released thanks to citizens making Freedom of Information Act requests
https://www.archives.gov/research/topics/uaps
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/collection/ufos-fact-or-fiction
Law enforcement guidelines for handling UAP reports
https://uapregister.substack.com/p/major-us-law-enforcement-organization
1933 Magenta, Italy Crash
1950s Del Rio, TX Crashes
1953 Kingsman, AZ Crash
1963 Kecksburg, PA Crash
1974 Coyame, Mexico Crash
UAP and Defense Contractors
there is a documentary airing on this subject
We have barely discussed UFOs and you're trying to involve cryptids too?
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"Oh Xaquin, that's not right!"
no, that's what they taught you isn't right
I don't really blame you for feeling this way, but if it is misdirection from the military as to our own capabilities - they've shot themselves in the foot. They have now opened the door to more congressional oversight into military spending, something that everyone knows is wildly out of control and basically unaccounted for. Even if this all turns out to be *nothing,* it'll still have been worth the effort to get a better look at where this fucking money is going
On another side, the quality of people coming forward since the 2017 NYT article has been extraordinary. Military higher ups, generals, Pentagon officials, former heads of private contractors like Lockheed, the list goes on and on. These aren't experiencers, but people saying they personally hold or have interviewed individuals with information on a government UAP recovery and reverse engineering program. The sands have shifted, and we can just focus on the facts. There is something up there, flying around and diving into our oceans with impunity, and we either don't know or are playing dumb.
Yeah.
Pelicans.
Me next time I see one of these "pelicans"
then we can get into the shit the government is confirmed or might as well be confirmed as having done. cattle mutilation stories got their start in the 50s and 60s when some agency or another did clandestine radiological experiments out west and harvested samples from livestock without telling anyone, and kept going as a way for big cattle ranches to dispossess smaller (usually not-white) ranchers so they can keep expanding and consolidating. there's air force intelligence scumbag richard doty driving a guy genuinely insane by spinning a bunch of UFO stories, after the guy picked up some encrypted air force radio transmissions. and my favorite, barney and betty hill getting kidnapped and doped up with a bunch of LSD and fed a story about getting abducted by aliens to discredit their civil rights work
so yeah basically i think people genuinely see weird shit in the air that doesn't have any neat explanation, but human perfidy is the likeliest explanation by a pretty long way in my opinion
hitting hot metal with hammers
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The issue I have with bad sensor readings is that well, the US government has some of the most sophisticated sensors in the world. They have to, really.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Surveillance_Network
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Surveillance_System
This system is so good, it can detect an object the size of basketball 19,000 miles into space
If these sensors are faulty, we'd be on the edge of launching nukes all the time.
Oh, what’s that? The people that test fighter jets and launch weapons told you about the UFOs?
Naw I’m sure there could be something out there, but until we’ve stopped all the needless wars, genocides, apartheids and all that we should probably leave them to it.
Besides, it’s clearly the work of the seelie and unseelie fae.
I read so many UFO books as a young teen.
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Stupid sexy aliens
UAPs most alarming trait is that they often seem attracted to facilities holding nuclear weapons, nuclear testing sites and nuclear power plants. In one famous instance, a UAP appeared over Malmstrom Air Force Base and disarmed several nukes. https://calgaryherald.com/news/seminal-montana-ufo-events-pentagon
Another incident in Ukraine, the opposite happened; a UAP *armed* a Russian warhead
https://m.jpost.com/omg/article-753288
This seems like the thread for me! Keep up the good work!
If you think me liking UFOs is weird, wait until i get into the connections between them and organized religion 😉
I didn't believe in aliens until right now
Actually very interested in hearing your views about religion.
Shitty post imo
Alien haters coming out of the woodwork in this thread, I don't know why my love of aliens triggers you so much
Hilarious. I should mention that I don't believe that there's anything particularly nefarious or wild about UFOs but I also feel like being a dick in someone's pretty harmless personal hobby thread is uncool.
This is lame. Just say what you actually think directly instead whatever edgy ironic attempt at "humor" this is
Okay, y'all aren't any fun anyway
It's not "harmless" to have a thread dedicated to spreading conspiracy theories and shouting down anyone offering rationalism. I thought we had the end of these threads but all of you playing along with this nonsense make me sad
Bye