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For those who don't know, forums.penny-arcade.com will be closing soon. However, we're doing the same kind of stuff over at coin-return.org with (almost) all the same faces! Please do feel welcome to join us.
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Future Forum/Subforum Structure Discussion
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I don't want to say with certainty that no positive case has been made for keeping things as they are, but I also don't consider "well these different cliques are just too different" to be a positive case. It reads as insisting nothing can be done about it.
EDIT: Post was being made before mods stepped in. Apologies.
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I've read through the past 10 pages of this thread, as well as every report made, several times now over the course of my day. That's been between IRL work and suchlike, hence why it has taken a while.
I've given out a good few infractions, but I'm aware that some folks don't think enough have been given out, or that certain people didn't get one they deserved for certain posts. Any post that was dealt with via a warning from another mod was already covered, and many of the people I infracted had been misbehaving for multiple posts in the thread, and I rolled them all into the one post's infraction.
EDIT: also I want to be clear that for many of these infractions, and for the entire thread itself, I've discussed them with multiple other moderators, including ones with jurisdiction over subforums besides SE++ (the one I am a mod for).
I also want to note that there are several users who toed very close to the line repeatedly throughout the past 24 hours of this thread, both before and after my earlier mod decree. Just because they didn't get infracted doesn't mean they won't be in the future, or are being protected from consequences. The reality is that if I were to infract those in this thread who had just generally been unpleasant or difficult I'd be doing that for nearly everyone who has been posting here. This thread went off the rails to a huge degree, and a lot of it was for reasons or over discussions that were cyclic, pointless, or based on premises that weren't helpful for the discussion topic of this thread.
I understand that everyone cares a great deal about the PA forums, and the friends and community that they have come to cherish here, and that they are concerned about what might happen to those on Coin Return. These are, at their core, emotional reasons, and that's totally okay and valid! The rub is that when heated emotions begin to influence how people are responding to each other, all we end up with is page after page of folks talking at each other, rather than with each other, and targeting personal issues with others, rather than the content of their posts. That just doesn't help anyone. Not the TT, not your fellow users, and not the mods.
The TT will be putting up a poll regarding forum structure later this week, and I encourage everyone to take the time to think about where they stand on the different aspects of forum structure, and what they may or may not be willing to see compromise on. But most of all I encourage everyone to go into any discussion of the poll and the proposals it offers with kindness and patience, such that we don't have a repeat of what this thread turned into.